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Minato Namikaze vs. Raven Branwen

She is probably higher then 84 megatons, the feat iirc was casual and was not the full display of her powers.

Heck, I dont think we have seen the best feat from maidens and top tiers, but thats just me.

I will vote later with my reasoning if needed, but pretty sure Weekly beat me to it.

So Raven FRA.
 
Minato can set multiple Hiraishin kunais around the battlefield and Raven can't really do anything to stop that.
 
Alright, I will outline a very likely scenario on what will happen.

Minato would probably open up with throwing a bunch of kunai, but Raven is open to kill anyone who is in her way. Keep in mind Neo, who toys with RWBY ran away rather then try to fight her. Also, her philisophy is basically 'Live strong and prosper'. She will use every tool to get a win. She has immobolization with gravity and ice dust and has, while not comparable movement to FTG, is still able to create portals to where she pleases. She can probably position herself to incapicitate him with just these two abilities. Raven vs Cinder illustrates this very well.

But hey, I will play devils advocate, lets assume he does get close...what happens then? He can create clones, and seal, but those abilities require concentration and handsigns. She has the higher AP, with the same abilities as before, and she still has an advantage. She can also defend herself with forcefields and iirc, air dust to deflect projecticles and physical combat if needed. You don't even have to go that far to see her proficiency in close combat is comparable to his, Right here shows she can stop a bloodlusted Neo's strikes and make her back away in an instant with just her sword. When she did see her, she ran.

Offensively, she is more willing to go for the kill then Minato. That is not to say Minato will not,but just looking at her entire arc leads me to believe she is probably sooner to kill him then he is to her. Experience does on paper lean to Minato, I will give him that, but even then Raven is an experience huntress who fights grimm frequently, which have a wide variety of skills.

His saving grace perhaps is that he can use sensory ninjutsu and maybe outrange her with his jutsu, but that is not how Minato fights. He is very taijutsu oriented.

If it is not clear. Raven for better long range capacity, immoblization, likely better close combat skills and better mindset.

Edit: Not even taking into account aura with the extrasensory perception does balance it out for both, neither should have better or worse. At best, Minato might have better range but Aura has been further explained then his abilities. I will just chalk this up to inconclusive in this front.

Edit 2: I might comment back some rebuttals, but this seems to be the general thread's thoughts on the Minato side, so I will leave it at that.
 
He can have hundreds of Hiraishin marks all over the place, literally anything he ever touched. Considering that these marks are invisible and never disappear, Raven has no way of preventing his teleportation. Also,lt seems like the Freeze has a really obvious Glow announcing it.
 
lmao at him requiring concentration to seal fcking Raven you forget that he sealed the nine tails literally heads and shoulders above raven in seconds right? And you forget that Minato literally killed whole armies right? His first move against his student in the first world war was to slice him up with a kunai (his own fcking student that he loved). Not to mention the speed difference is now sub-relavistic+ vs MHS+
 
Rocker1189 said:
lmao at him requiring concentration to seal fcking Raven you forget that he sealed the nine tails literally heads and shoulders above raven in seconds right?
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he did so while being penetrates by the biggest thing in his life since the wedding night by kushina
 
... Oh yeah. Shiki Fuin would count as a win, wouldnt it? He dies a while after the sealing is done, not instantly. And Raven can neither see the Reaper nor defend against it >.>
 
Minato's profile says he's MHS+ not Sub-Relativistic+ apparently something is happening so it can't be accepted just yet. If Minato does become Sub-Relativstic+ then he speedblitz like crazy.
 
Poinciana1971 said:
Minato's profile says he's MHS+ not Sub-Relativistic+ apparently something is happening so it can't be accepted just yet. If Minato does become Sub-Relativstic+ then he speedblitz like crazy.
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sub relativistic reaction speed, not movement, and subrelatiivtic is relativly close to mhs+ top.

calc feat give above
 
I mean I'm sure there's a limit to how much higher your reaction speed can be against the opponent before it's a blitz.

Speed of light reactions vs subsonic reactions. That's not fair and shouldn't be added to the profiles. I just don't know the difference in speed necessary for that.
 
Nico-v11 said:
I mean I'm sure there's a limit to how much higher your reaction speed can be against the opponent before it's a blitz.
Speed of light reactions vs subsonic reactions. That's not fair and shouldn't be added to the profiles. I just don't know the difference in speed necessary for that.
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no, just... no. she can m,ove faster then he can, the fact that he can see everything coming isnt anymore unfair then precognition.

subsonic spped reaction with subsonic combat speed doesn not get blitzed by ftl reaction and subsonic movement.
 
I know. Go ahead and make a thread with someone who's subsonic reaction speed vs someone who's FTL reaction speed and see what everyone is going to tell you. Right or wrong still not fair.

Perhaps blitz is the wrong word but the gap between them in reaction speed effectively is why blitz's aren't allowed to be added. Call it something else but unless there's some hax involved then no one with that gap in reaction speed is going to beat Minato
 
dude, by that logic precognition is makes everytthing a blitz, and reaction speed doesent change the fact that enemy can hit you in a way that you cant phisicly dodgedespite seeing it coming, it was the whole point of sasuke vs lee
 
You know and yet you keep repeating the same thing we're correcting over and over again. Minato is not faster than she is in combat speed, he can just react to all of her attacks
 
I mean you are exxagerating quite a lot here this is not subsonic reaction speed vs FTL reaction speed. And if someone has FTL reaction speed if they only have superhuman movement speed they would still lose to someone with subsinic attacks.

Now why is this different for Minato? Because he has teleportation effectively making his movement speed on par with his reaction speed.
 
I don't think precognition is the same gap I'm referring to here. Again I don't know what the gap should be so I'm using subsonic vs FTL as an extreme example. Do you think that's fair?
 
If the FTL has less than subsonic movespeed then sure it is fair. He can see an attack coming but he can not dodge it. If he has a forcefield for example he could block the attack though.
 
Nico-v11 said:
I don't think precognition is the same gap I'm referring to here. Again I don't know what the gap should be so I'm using subsonic vs FTL as an extreme example. Do you think that's fair?
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Precognition allows you to reat to an attack BEFORE its coming, so its infinitly above what minato has

if the movement speed for the ftl reaction fighter is subsonic, the yes, cuz he can still be outskilled or aoe'd
 
Voting Raven for Kinkiest's reasonings. I think she has more abilities to cause immobilization plus her dust+aura can be used as a good defense measure for attacks.
 
Alright,just counting the vote,that's become 4 for Raven,and anyway i will voting Raven FRA.

-Raven: 5 (Kin,Sarva,Zack,Ariia,me)

-Minato: 0(?)
 
Ah,alright.

-Raven: 5 (Kin,Sarva,Zack,Ariia,me)

-Minato: 6 (Rocker,Ricsi,Kep,Shrek,Heil,Shady)

I don't know if Weekly is voting here.....
 
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