Merging some of Frieza's keys

[SamanPatou]

It's time to fix something that has been ignored for too long and it's just a relic of old, outdated habits.
Frieza has an astonishing number of keys, 10, one for each of his forms and it different points of time.

To accomodate with current custom and rules, this number should be cut in half, differentiating them only through leaps in time.
Not only this causes issues for vs matches, but it also doesn't conform to out standards.

His first 4 keys will be merged together into a single "Namek Saga" key. Of course the ratings remain the same, but the different tiers will just come after each other like we do with the likes of Goku and Vegeta.
Mecha Frieza remains the same, while the 6, 7 and 8th keys will merge into a single "Resurrection F" key.
ToP and Post-ToP remain the same.

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

Should be alright

 

[Enigmatic_Rurouni]

I’m all for changing it. Hell Piccolo has the same issue at the moment. But I have a noob question. Why don’t we make separate profiles? One for Z and one for Super. I mean hell we did the same thing for Gohan. Plus by the time Frieza came back in Super it like was over 10 years.

 

[Damage3245]

I don't think the keys need to be combined tbh; I think he just needs a profile split between DBZ and DBS.

 

[SamanPatou]

Even if we split the file, the keys would still have to be merged, when referencing to the same time period.
It would be like giving 3 keys to Namek Goku (base, kkx20, ssj), a lot more for Cell Saga, same for Buu etc...

Z Frieza can just have two keys, with the first encompassing all forms during Namek, with different tiers within the same one, and the second being Mecha.

 

[Enigmatic_Rurouni]

Well yea some keys can be merged, that won’t be a problem. But honestly it’ll make more sense to split the profile as well.

 

[Damage3245]

Even if we split the file, the keys would still have to be merged, when referencing to the same time period.
It would be like giving 3 keys to Namek Goku (base, kkx20, ssj), a lot more for Cell Saga, same for Buu etc...

Z Frieza can just have two keys, with the first encompassing all forms during Namek, with different tiers within the same one, and the second being Mecha.

Okay, I'm fine with merging some keys + splitting the profile.

 

[Eseseso]

Agree with OP

 

[Adem_Warlock69]

The merge would let Frieza transform in Versus Threads, which is better indeed

 

[LordGriffin1000]

I agree with the OP.

 

[Starter_Pack]

I agree with the key merge and the profile split.

 

[Damage3245]

Here is what Frieza's keys would look like for his DBZ profile.

 

[LordTracer]

I agree with the key merge, but I really don’t see the point in splitting his profile.

 

[SamanPatou]

On one side, I see the point of people wanting to split the files, not only for visual clarity, but also to maintain the idea of "separate series" for a big profile such as his.

I'm fine with both option, but we need to figure out how many are in favor of the split and how many aren't.

 

[Damage3245]

I'll do full sandboxes for how the split profiles would like, so people can evaluate whether it's fine.

 

[Therefir]

Splitting the profile would be in line with how other DB profiles are treated from DBZ to DBS, so I also agree with splitting it.

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

I agree with everything

 

[AwkguyDB]

Was this ever concluded?

 

[Damage3245]

Was this ever concluded?

I got a bit sidetracked with other things. Need to get around to elaborating the sandboxes.

 

[LordTracer]

Bump.

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Didn't have enough votes to complete?

 

[Nullflowerblush]

Scroll up to post #19.

 

[Mr.Cinos15]

I agree with profile split and key merges.

 

[Damage3245]

Here's the proposed split for Frieza's profile:

• DBZ
• DBS

Is this fine?

 

[Enigmatic_Rurouni]

Here's the proposed split for Frieza's profile:

• DBZ
• DBS

Is this fine?

For the tier for Namek Saga Frieza, why don’t you just say “At least High 5-A in his second and 3rd form”, if you don’t mind me asking?

 

[Damage3245]

For the tier for Namek Saga Frieza, why don’t you just say “At least High 5-A in his second and 3rd form”, if you don’t mind me asking?

No, that's fine, I forgot they were the same tier. Changing now.

 

[Adem_Warlock69]

Think we should remove the Second and Third form images from the Super profile, lad never uses them there

 

[Chariot190]

why is DBS Frieza's first form High 4-C, for one shotting 4-B's. Shouldn't he just be 4-B.

 

[Adem_Warlock69]

why is DBS Frieza's first form High 4-C, for one shotting 4-B's. Shouldn't he just be 4-B.

It's real weird, Tagoma is High 4-C from scaling to Gohan and Gohan is 4-B from stomping Tagoma

 

[Damage3245]

why is DBS Frieza's first form High 4-C, for one shotting 4-B's. Shouldn't he just be 4-B.

I'm just going by what's on the profile currently. The profile could be outdated or incorrect.

Think we should remove the Second and Third form images from the Super profile, lad never uses them there

Okay.

 

[Chariot190]

It's real weird, Tagoma is High 4-C from scaling to Gohan and Gohan is 4-B from stomping Tagoma

Assuming Base Gohan is comparable to Buu Saga Piccolo who's about 800 quetta, SSJ1 Gohan would be slightly above baseline 4-B so maybe that's why? I'm not sure, we don't actually have a AP scaling blog for Super only Z. Someone should get on that.

 

[Adem_Warlock69]

Villain wiki has some Super quotes, could also probably use one for the Super profile

 

[LordGriffin1000]

Here's the proposed split for Frieza's profile:

• DBZ
• DBS

Is this fine?

They look good.

 

[Adem_Warlock69]

"Cyborgization (Partial as Mecha Frieza)" needs to be removed from the DBS page

 

[SamanPatou]

Yep, looks good

 

[Lonkitt]

Sandboxes look good

 

[Damage3245]

Alright, I'll split the pages soon then.

 

[Damage3245]

Made the changes now. Closing this.

Will likely do something similar for Piccolo.