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I'm voting Wolfgang FRA.
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Medaka Kurokami verses Wolfgang Schreiber
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You're forgetting him OPArcharon said:
"Though she will start off with normal stuff. Like she will only use AF for regen instead of 1 shot and other stuff like that."
She gets blitz tho, and she won't react fast enough to AF a glare (lol)
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Well,for final vote,Schreiber FRA.
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Remember, all fiction can activate after the user has died.Frohe Magnolia said:
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AF never fixed soul damages IIRC and if she dies she's sent to Gladsheim, she won't come back
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You mean a lot of ppl who don't know the series well enough and who consider Medaka Box a verse of tier 8s? Yeah sure that's a lot of ppl, like the lot of ppl that think Goku can fathom on scratching Medaka, or like the lot that think one punch man 1 shots fiction. Yeah the lot of ppl are always right, how did i not know that before?Xantospoc said:
Also don't use that line. Ok you're voting for Wolfgang but srsly don't put that kind of line. "Wolfgang haxstomps", like he can just barely see the light of winning in a match where Medaka is not even using hax, not what you usually call a haxstomp, the only reason Medaka isn't stomping here is cus it's in character. Medaka solos ALL of reinhard's lackeys single handedly in a non bloodlusted match (all at the same time i mean, i can make the thread if you want).
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GP started an hour ago so yeah
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Firephoenixearl said:
Just do it
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Also Medaka ain't getting blitzed. He's not fast enough to blitz her and glare hax is negged by UH. Any hit can be negged via All Fiction. And again once Medaka copies Briah (start of the match passive), it's child's play, since he won't be able to catch her and once Medaka learns about his soul stuff (which isn't gonna take time via passive mind read), she's gonna go all out, she goes weak vs weaklings, she doesn't risk her life.
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This level of biais is not human, are you a demi-god walking among men? Joke aside i'm pretty sure it's a stomp in Schreiber's favor.
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I won't hide im a lil biased towards Masadaverse, but i ain't that bad. xDFrohe Magnolia said:
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Ehhhh....this thread is pretty much a meme now
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so FTL+ at base vs atleast FTL cannot blitz that is just lol and here we go again copy briah man this debate is getting nowhere.
@MagiSinbad
yes it is and not a good one lol
@MagiSinbad
yes it is and not a good one lol
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So, this is where Reinhard gets his memeability from.
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It actually cannot blitz. You'd need to be a baseline of 20 times faster than someone to blitz and that would only have to be inclose quarters. This is not a racing speed where 1c matters. This is a fight, someone being 2/7 faster than you is not gonna blitz. Might aswell have me blitz all my class mates cus yeah im 1m/s faster than them.Akalavashimu said:
Both have "at least FTL". Medaka is faster than a calc which gave her around 6x speed of light. FTL caps out at 10c, so having FTL+ is not exactly blitz worthy considering they are still "at least FTL", which means they are not in the high end of FTL+.
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Blatantly wrong. You can be only 2x faster and still blitz in CQC.
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In what?RebubleUselet said:
Dude just apply random logic to it. The average human speed is 10-15 mph, Usain Bolt the fastest human can run at 27.8 mph. You actually think Usain Bolt can just blitz the avg human? xD (blitzing means being so fast it's almost impossible for the other party to react, do you know how fast you need to be for that? Here is a bit of more info on it, the avg human reaction is 0.5s, that + the avg human speed, and do the math yourself for how much faster you'd need to be to "blitz" someone, let me tell you, it's a lot).
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Get that accepted m8, get that accepted, till then stop it. He's not gonna blitz.SchroKatze said:
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False equivalency. Usain Bolt is not the fastest person in combat. Bruce Lee is.
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Yes we are comparing speed feats here. Someone sees lightining as slow, you think that is bruce lee kind of fast? Bruce Lee is reaction kind of fast, that's the speed that you use in combat, though to close the gap between 2 ppl you'd need running speed.RebubleUselet said:
Also it's not exactly the point. Bruce Lee is still slower than Usain Bolt so by your logic, if they were to fight let's say from a 15M distance, Usain Bolt would blitz Bruce Lee eh? I mean they are not in close combat so Lee's reaction would prove useless because Bolt is "blitzing" him right?
You seriously need to apply some of the things you say to real life. A car moving at 50mph is STILL not gonna blitz you (a being with a mere 10mph sprint sped and 0.5 sec reaction time) if it were to be let's say 60 meters away. And that is a difference of around 10x speed (because the human is only 10mph when running at full power, not in a standing position).
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No, not by a long shot.Xantospoc said:
I mean yes i can also blitz normal ppl if im ready to punch them from 0,3 m away and they are in a standstill position. These characters are far apart m8. Unless you think Burce Lee can blitz you if he were to be ANYWHERE that's not fist range. Also no he doesn't blitz them in the literal sense. There are a lot of factors that come into play like fear, surprise, warm up, mental ready-ness etc etc.You can't judge it like that.
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We talked about CQC. You said Usain Bolt is the fastest human. I said Bruce Lee is faster in CQC than Usain Bolt.
You're trying to apply travel speed to combat while talking about real life. Which is wrong on many levels.
You're trying to apply travel speed to combat while talking about real life. Which is wrong on many levels.
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Anyway, this is not really relevant now, as we've already reached grace period.
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You require travel speed to close the distance between 2 ppl m8. You require travel speed. How do you think you close a gap, via reacting to a burn?RebubleUselet said:
Combat speed is reaction speed, the faster your reactions the better the combat speed is, because it takes less time for ur muscles to get the signal from your brain. That's literally it. That doesn't make you close distances quick (like in our case).
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>Combat speed is reaction speed
wut
Normal Human can still react to Usain Bolt running from a distance, but he can't react to Bruce Lee punching him in any capacity, regardless from outside factors.
wut
Normal Human can still react to Usain Bolt running from a distance, but he can't react to Bruce Lee punching him in any capacity, regardless from outside factors.
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He can react. If you are FULLY in perfect condition and remove stuff like fear of getting hit (which is impossible), then you would react to it.RebubleUselet said:
Also Usain Bolt runs from a distance. Bruce Lee's punch is literally 0.5m away from u moving fast, usain bolt is 30m from you running fast. Ppl can calculate the speed of sound that doesn't mean they can react to it at any distance cus yeah combat logic. This is getting pretty bad now, and i don't wanna continue, just apply some basic day to day logic in your theories.
Bruce Lee doesn't go from Europe to Africa via combat speed, he needs to go there via travel speed. Wolfgang doesn't go from 1 city to another via combat speed to hit Medaka. He needs travel speed, the same kind of speed Bolt has.
Idc what happens with this fight but just remember these 2 things:
To Close distance = travel speed. ANY distance, be that distance 5m or light years. To close any distance you do that via travel speed.
Close combat speed = combat speed/ reaction speed. Watch Ikki vs Sword Eater to see what reaction means in a fight. If the distance is about 5m or smaller (5m is my baseline usually since even though the avg human doesn't reach that much with a sword or some kind of fighting style it is possible to instantly hit from that distance via extending your reach or close that distance faster than your usual travel speed).
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A soul is connected to ones body so UH will hide too. However it seems GP has been set.
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Gonna say not to that. Medaka Box has no supernatural preception. Just superhuman levels of normal preception.
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@Fire
Dude, I've been on this wiki for long enough to know that, no need to stuff that in my face with all your condescending.
Dude, I've been on this wiki for long enough to know that, no need to stuff that in my face with all your condescending.
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Yeah still not gonna mean you can defy logic by that. If you deem it unimportant it will be hidden via any means of perception.ApiesDeathbyLazors said:
Unknown Hero doesn't hide anything, it removes importance. He is in your field of vision, the photons that are coming from his body do reach your eye, the image of him is stored somewhere in your mind, you just can't seem to realize he is actually there or find where that stored image is in your mind. As they said "ppl block him from their minds".
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Ok sure, never said u haven't been here long enough, nor did i mean any harm by what i said though you seem to be confused on them due to the replies you were giving such as (combat speed between medaka and wolfgang, when travel speed is required for them to meet first).RebubleUselet said:
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So I see that Medaka is at the Speed Of Light. How? When? The final arc literally has her going faster than the speed of sound as something impressive... Despite her having caught bullets with her teeth before. Unless there is something I am missing here, I highly doubt anything in Medaka is at the speed of light and beyond bar Ajimu.Firephoenixearl said:
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Note 1: Regarding the Light Speed Hyperbole, there are only so many statements that could be dismissed as mere hyperbole, but none of the with any contradictions whatsoever. Even narration point to certain characters (5 at the maximum) being lightspeed, with no contradictions at all. In fact Ajimu blowing up the star, the nature of Hinokage's Theme Song, and Medaka destroying the moon overnight only point towards it. Even Iihiko called Medaka's Kurokami Phantom "slow", right before beating her with glasses.
