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The current reasoning on Gorr's profile:

possibly Star level (Empowered by the Necrosword, whose power can seemingly move a star[1])

This reasoning doesn't seem to work if the moon just has a fast orbit around the star, so...
Look at the moving light in the top left corner of this scene, and the moving shadow on the dark side of the moon to the bottom right of this scene. It shows the sun moving in the opposite direction of all the other stars. Therefore, regardless of what's happening with the moon, the sun is definitely moving. There is no possible way for the sun to be stationary in this scene.



Furthermore, the movie never actually shows the moon move in an orbit, only rotate on its axis.

Now, looking at all the other moving stars in this scene, some stars in the background are moving faster than some stars in the foreground. If all those other stars were actually stationary, parallax perception would require only the stars in the foreground to appear to be moving faster than the stars in the background.

NASA:

"the parallax effect: the apparent shift in position of a relatively nearby object against more distant ones when viewed from different vantage points."

This means that the onscreen evidence is that ALL of these stars are actually moving. Which could scale Gorr and therefore Thor much higher, since all the other stars were in fact all stationary when Thor and crew first arrived to the moon, the other stars only begin to move as Thor and crew get closer, to what they had previously acknowledged could be a trap by Gorr:



So we have to weigh the VFX supervisor's statements against what is actually shown onscreen, and actual science for celestial bodies. And since there is at least as much onscreen evidence that all these stars are moving, it's best to just leave the power level alone.

Finally, MCU Thor at least also is scaled to MCU Zeus, who is scaled to MCU Khonshu, who moved countless stars in the night sky. Which, by the way, gives validity to the view that Gorr, who can kill gods, could have the power to move countless stars himself. So the power levels are not just based on the Shadow Realm scenes:

MCU THOR

"At least Large Planet level, possibly Star level (Caught an attack from, one-shot and mortally wounded Zeus, who rules over Omnipotence City and is more powerful than even the Egyptian Gods."

MCU ZEUS

At least Large Planet level, possibly Star level (Comparable to, if not stronger than, Ra, the head of the Egyptian Pantheon, who should be stronger than fellow Egyptian Gods like Khonshu and Ammit.
 
Furthermore, the movie never actually shows the moon move in an orbit, only rotate on its axis.
The VFX artists who worked on the movie confirmed otherwise
Finally, MCU Thor at least also is scaled to MCU Zeus, who is scaled to MCU Khonshu, who moved countless stars in the night sky. Which, by the way, gives validity to the view that Gorr, who can kill gods, could have the power to move countless stars himself.
Zeus doesn't scale to Khonshu's Spatial Manipulation
 
The VFX artists who worked on the movie confirmed otherwise

Zeus doesn't scale to Khonshu's Spatial Manipulation
Doesn't VS Battles prioritize what is shown onscreen above what artists say offscreen? The moon is never shown moving in orbit onscreen. Find one scene where the moon is physically shown moving in orbit.
 
What's your problem with me? You ALSO responded to the L&T possible power change here. on this thread, BEFORE I did.
Because you're trying to convince people to keep that rating in the General Discussion Thread despite there being an Official Content Revision Thread.

So why in the world are you trying to convince people in a thread where the Staff won't be able to see your arguments.
 
Because you're trying to convince people to keep that rating in the General Discussion Thread despite there being an Official Content Revision Thread.

So why in the world are you trying to convince people in a thread where the Staff won't be able to see your arguments.
I just posted it there. You could have just told me to post it there. Thanks for clarifying. Although I have never been rude to you, so please try to be less rude to me. Thanks.
 
Doesn't VS Battles prioritize what is shown onscreen above what artists say offscreen?
I haven't seen such a case before, but here, there are two consistent VFX statements about the moon's orbit, so I don't see any problem
What does this mean then?

MCU ZEUS

At least Large Planet level, possibly Star level (Comparable to, if not stronger than, Ra, the head of the Egyptian Pantheon, who should be stronger than fellow Egyptian Gods like Khonshu and Ammit.
It means Zeus scales above Ra, who scales above 5-B+ rating of Khonshu and the 5-A rating of Ammit. There's a reason L&T Thor, Gorr, Zeus, etc., have never been 4-A

Nobody scales to Khonshu's Spatial Manipulation besides
Moon Knight
 
I haven't seen such a case before, but here, there are two consistent VFX statements about the moon's orbit, so I don't see any problem

It means Zeus scales above Ra, who scales above 5-B+ rating of Khonshu and the 5-A rating of Ammit. There's a reason L&T Thor, Gorr, Zeus, etc., have never been 4-A

Nobody scales to Khonshu's Spatial Manipulation besides
Moon Knight
Okay, but my first point, which I've now posted in the CRT, is:

Look at the moving light in the top left corner of this scene, and the moving shadow on the dark side of the moon to the bottom right of this scene. It shows the sun moving in the opposite direction of all the other stars. Therefore, regardless of what's happening with the moon, the sun is definitely moving. There is no possible way for the sun to be stationary in this scene.

 
Ego's voice made the entire planet tremble
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This matchup could use some more input if anybody's interested
 
Has anyone tried figuring out the density of that moon in the Shadow Realm? Having low gravity at that scale should still be pretty up there, right?
 
There's something I noticed on Gorr's profile:

far higher via Teleportation (Can instantly travel between different planets and to the Shadow Realm through shadows[1])
Shouldn't that actually be MFTL+?
 
Ravonna has some pretty consistent scaling to Sylvie with this episode and their previous fight, though I'm not sure about Victor Timely since he also survived Sylvie's green energy shockwave and whether Kang or the other variants should scale to him.
 
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Going by their fight last season, Ravonna should be able to scale to Sylvie in terms of LS and speed pretty clearly, but AP/durability seems less certain, considering Ravonna mostly seemed to be relying on her Time Stick, only seemed to annoy Sylvie with a strike across the face, and got knocked out once Sylvie actually managed to land a blow herself. The green energy shockwave might be able to warrant a downscale, though Victor Timely getting Tier 7 scaling does seem a bit odd after watching him run away from regular people
 
Victor Timely's scaling is almost certainly an outlier. Renslayer took two direct hits from an angry Sylvie (albeit she wasn't going to kill her), so a downscale is certainly warranted. I think Ren parried and blocked a couple of Sylvie's attacks, but her AP still downscales since she's clearly not quite on the same level
 
Just so everyone knows, later today or tomorrow I will probably post a revision that might be pretty big regarding the Tier 1 people and the Infinity Stones in general. I wanted to wait to post it to refine certain things, but I have some time in the next few days and with the new huge revision for R>F Difference I want to get this revision done so that I can dedicate a bit of time to other fun revisions for other verse (and no, K.E.V.I.N wont be among them, I hate him and I don't want anything to do with that considering how messy a revision for that would be)
 
A 6-C feat for Dar-Benn from the new The Marvels TV spot

Best to wait for a proper calc rather than assume it's 6-C. It's definitely in the Tier 6 range from the looks of it

Also important to wait for the actual movie to see how the feat was done, since there's a very clear cut in the scene
 
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Best to wait for a proper calc rather than assume it's 6-C. It's definitely Tier 6 from the looks of it

Also important to wait for the actual movie to see how the feat was done, since there's a very clear cut in the scene
I mean I just eyeballed it. Definitely tier 6 for sure. This is the explosion that happens when Dar-Benn hits her hammer with her bangle. Imagine if we get Tier 6 Kamala
 
8-C at worst, 8-A at best

Though from what I heard, this is a dead/dying star that she is gonna restart/reignite, in which case 4-C Thanos
That reminds me, how come there's no calc for surviving the gravitational strain of being in the core of the sun? Wouldn't that help cap Ikaris?

I forgot about the leak saying Carol took out Hala's sun some time in the past. So she's already a star killer since before Endgame, but she's now going to reignite it.
 
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