The only point to this is discussion is tier 4 carol. Since it’s practically already been decided with 4 staff members in agreement with there being no back scaling, hulk is irrelevant to this discussion. Just make the changes and close the thread cuz I doubt anyone’s gonna budge regardless of disagreements
Its fine with me. If we want to avoid another clogging I guess we could always do a staff thread anyways.
Its not garbage, it just finally has enough contradictory material it can finally join its comic forefather in being a tiering disaster.
Same for me imho, nobody asides those from the movie should scale to her final feat imho, because it will inflate tiers
Wouldn’t the same reason others don’t scale to her apply to these people too? She doesn’t use the power to reignite a star against Dar-Benn.
I think the reason thru scale is due to closing the incursions which requires star level of power
Yes tbh
the quantum bands could scale bc i think there was something in the movie that said that dar-benn having to wait to get the second bangle to also restart hala’s star since one bangle wouldn’t provide enough energy to reignite it idk but ig that can be discussed somewhere else
No, she needed the bands to transport part of the energy of the sun to hala's sun that cant be put into AP as it's teleportation
she was already only using one band tho, but ik she was gonna open a jump point to bring the earth’s sun energy into the star
ya it was dr selvig’s statement which could be valid, i remember it being discussed that it wouldn’t have that much kind of power and it could vary because of the “margin of error” statement, tho i think as for ms marvel, bruno was referring to how much variable power she could just use to open the portal to the noor dimension and not just portals in general, but idk either
There is nothing to suggest making a portal takes as much energy has the amount of things it transports from one side to the other and it was very clear the portal itself was too small in comparison with the sun and would have taken a while for the energy to transport so clearly that wouldnt scale in any way.
Dr. Selvic's statement is in regards to interdimensional travel not to the noor dimension which he probably doesnt even know it exists, but a portal to another universe surely classifies as interdimentional travel
it’s not the portals im referring to that would require some kind of amt of energy, i mean like how with one of the bangles by themselves not having enough power in general to be used to reignite hala’s star, for dar-benn’s case she would just open a jump point to bring the sun’s energy into hala’s star with that one bangle, obviously it wouldn’t correlate into AP because it has she did that via the bangle’s abilities to open jump points, though i’m connecting how one bangle wouldn’t be enough to power the sun and how she didn’t want to wait any further on finding the second bangle to her using jump points so she could find a way to fuel hala’s star faster
yes
Monica closed a wormhole not an incursion.
It’s an incursion They were both the boundary between realities breaking
yea they were both incursions, the one in the marvels was an unstable jump point that connected to another reality n the portal was spreading, the one in nwh was the universe being torn apart and were cracks in the multiverse, so it wasnt like the wormhole that monica needed to use a certain amt of energy to close the jump point
Yeah different causes same effect but nwh was just on a bigger scale
So Tier 4 Carol with no backscaling from dudes like Thor? Sounds fine to me
Probably "Varies. High 6-B (Thor/Thanos), up to Low 4-C (Star feat)" or if we want to drop thr Varies then "High 6-B, up to Low 4-C with all her energy" or something.
She doesn’t scale to thanos at all in base,before 4-c she was just tier 7 or something
This is about her second key, not the first.
Ya, she doesn’t scale to thanos in her second key unless she absorbs energy
Tbf now that were changing her AP rating to account for her variable power her gaining the upper hand on Thanos probably wasn't because she absorbed any energy and she just pushed herself harder. Her absorbing power from the gauntlet was an assumption that's not really supported by anything.
Dosen’t matter, the point of this thread is to deal with tier 4 stuff. If you believe so strongly that this we’ll affect her base rating then make a crt for it after this is done
Fair enough. For this CRT anyways should her AP be "Varies, usually at least Mountain level (Destroyed the Sanctuary II. Forced Ronan and the Kree warships to retreat), up to Large Country level+ (Briefly overwhelmed and restrained Thanos, faring much better than ever before and forcing him to use the Power Stone to break off from her, although Thanos was exhausted and wounded from previously fighting Scarlet Witch, Thor, Captain America, Iron Man and many other heroes), Small Star level at peak (Flew through Hala's sun and restarted it, though she doubted that she would be able to do it)" or just "Varies, usually at least Mountain level (Destroyed the Sanctuary II. Forced Ronan and the Kree warships to retreat), up to Small Star level at peak (Flew through Hala's sun and restarted it, though she doubted that she would be able to do it)"
The second one, this thread doesn’t need any more clogging
Second option is best to me
Sounds good. What are we waiting for so this can be applied? I'm surprised this CRT has gone on so long I expected it to be accepted the same day it was started.
I think it would still get a higher with energy absortion since the movie confirms she can absorb energy.
Low 4-c Thor was only on the table with Stormbreaker.
Then tell my why his profile has been changed
