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I mean, MCU Spidey and Strange both have a direct showing of taking the explosion, TASM kinda doesn't, so uh...I mean, the MCU verse page shares a calc from the Raimi trilogy with the pumpkin bombs, I don't see why TASM nor the Raimi verse pages can't share that durability since they do all scale to MCU Spidey
At least he was the father of the electro speed scaling himselfI mean, MCU Spidey and Strange both have a direct showing of taking the explosion, TASM kinda doesn't, so uh...
You submitted the calc for the jet bridge yet?Bump
Yep, scroll above a bit, already got accepted.You submitted the calc for the jet bridge yet?
Fair for now, we can look for other feats for Cap tier people later.I think that's all we're waiting on since we can make Cap Class 10 based off the log and go from there.
Here you gothat feat still has not been added to imgur
Might be easier to just go with "At least Class 50" and just mention the crane.The crane thing we still need to decide what mass it is.
FTFY, calc was accepted as Class 100 BTW, with a Class K calc at peakPeople who need to be changed to "At least Class 100" for scaling to MCU Spider-Man
I feel like Spidey should get seperate keys from his Civil War self to his homecoming self to his infinity war/endgame self to his post endgame selfOkay so I think these are all the effect profiles
People that need to become Class 10 based off Captain America scaling
People who need to be changed to "At least Class 50" for scaling to MCU Spider-Man
- Black Panther
- Winter Soldier
- Killmonger
- Red Skull
- Captain Carter
- Corvus Glaive
- Proxima
- Flash-Smasher
- US Agent
- Ultron
People who can keep their Class 100 ratings with improved justifications
- Spider-Man (Raimi)
- Spider-Man (TASM)
- Vulture
- Lizard
- Electro
- Green Goblin (TASM)
- Green Goblin (Raimi)
- New Goblin
- Doctor Octopus
- Venom (Raimi)
- Sandman
People who outright have poor justifications and we need to actually look at
I don't see the need honestly. His AP and dura does not change, and there'd be nothing properly explaining the massive jump in speed without ******* over the other already-established scaling chains.I feel like Spidey should get seperate keys from his Civil War self to his homecoming self to his infinity war/endgame self to his post endgame self
Wrong thread lolI don't see the need honestly. His AP and dura does not change, and there'd be nothing properly explaining the massive jump in speed without ******* over the other already-established scaling chains.
Cap did harm Spidey during Civil War and Spidey has gotten stronger and more experienced since then. Plus he even has more abilities after Civil WarI don't see the need honestly. His AP and dura does not change, and there'd be nothing properly explaining the massive jump in speed without ******* over the other already-established scaling chains.
kinda connected tho LOLWrong thread lol
yep it's just funny thokinda connected tho LOL
Hence the whole "AP remains largely unchanged" factor.Cap did harm Spidey during Civil War
Like fancy precog and tech-based stuff?and Spidey has gotten stronger and more experienced since then. Plus he even has more abilities after Civil War
Spidey has displayed better feats since Civil War so I doubtHence the whole "AP remains largely unchanged" factor.
YesLike fancy precog and tech-based stuff?
The lightning feats and Pumpkin Bombs? All lower than the Quicksilver feat.Spidey has displayed better feats since Civil War so I doubt
Yeah, Tony's Micro Missiles, and Repulsor blasts easily damaged his body, with the Arm Missile One Shotting him. While all of Ultron's attacks (Gravity attacks and energy beams) barely did anything to Tony.Most seem fine, save for Ultron, was he that badly overpowered by Mark 43 Tony before the Vibranium upgrade?
Was mostly talking about lifting strength, I know Ultron is hopelessly outmatched in terms of AP.Yeah, Tony's Micro Missiles, and Repulsor blasts easily damaged his body, with the Arm Missile One Shotting him. While all of Ultron's attacks (Gravity attacks and energy beams) barely did anything to Tony.
IIRC he can knock Tony back with his Energy Beams and Gravity attacks, whether fighting on the ground or in the air.Was mostly talking about lifting strength, I know Ultron is hopelessly outmatched in terms of AP.
I remember them grappling and wrestling against each other mid-flight.IIRC he can knock Tony back with his Energy Beams and Gravity attacks, whether fighting on the ground or in the air.
There’s not really any change? He still scales to Cap’s levelI feel like Spidey should get seperate keys from his Civil War self to his homecoming self to his infinity war/endgame self to his post endgame self
Eh, now that I look at the fight, I don't see any scene where Cap ever has a noticeable LS advantage over Ultron. He's getting forcefully overpowered by Ultron every moment Cap tries to grapple.Not sure about Ultron, since he also fights Cap that kinda messes with the scaling.
Omg bruh there's no wayThat’s an assassin’s creed gameplay video lol
I was just listing what the current ratings/scaling are.Most seem fine, save for Ultron, was he that badly overpowered by Mark 43 Tony before the Vibranium upgrade?
Pretty much. The most impressive thing Cap does here is managing to survive if anythingEh, now that I look at the fight, I don't see any scene where Cap ever has a noticeable LS advantage over Ultron. He's getting forcefully overpowered by Ultron every moment Cap tries to grapple.
Yeah, Bart/Hawkeye straight up states to Cap he's no match for Ultron and Cap agrees.Pretty much. The most impressive thing Cap does here is managing survive if anything
Yeah I personally don't believe that's remotely happening with spidey by NWH lolIron Man has a statement about Captain America being able to beat Spider-Man if he tried (Which upon having a group rewatch, my friends I collectively shook our head about that idea)
Same unlike the netflix shows and even ******* inhumans with the blackbolt variant nothing has pointed to AoS even being considered remotely canon unless there's some recent WoG that went over my radarI agree with no longer scaling off of Agents of Shield