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MCU 8-C AP / Lifting Strength revision
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I mean, MCU Spidey and Strange both have a direct showing of taking the explosion, TASM kinda doesn't, so uh...
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At least he was the father of the electro speed scaling himself
Not everyone has the pleasure of being hit with a pumpkin bomb
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You submitted the calc for the jet bridge yet?
I think that's all we're waiting on since we can make Cap Class 10 based off the log and go from there.
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I also think we should put in a note for Raimi and TASM that they are not variants but rather the same exact Spidey-Men we saw in the old Spider-Man movies all those years ago, using the references in the movies themselves and the script and Marvel's own description that there's only one and only Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man and Amazing Spider-Man, that no other variants exist of them. That and ******* VENOM exists, are we just gonna call him an variation amongst infinite universes that "just happens to share the same backstory as the original film?" **** NO, of course not.
ESPECIALLY NOT WITH THE FACT THAT THE ORIGINAL FILM ITSELF LITERALLY SHOWS EDDIE AND VENOM BEING TELEPORTED TO THE ******* MCU OF ALL THINGS IN THE POST-CREDITS SCENE.
ESPECIALLY NOT WITH THE FACT THAT THE ORIGINAL FILM ITSELF LITERALLY SHOWS EDDIE AND VENOM BEING TELEPORTED TO THE ******* MCU OF ALL THINGS IN THE POST-CREDITS SCENE.
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Yep, scroll above a bit, already got accepted.
The crane thing we still need to decide what mass it is. It definitely can't be Class K because the 100 ton cranes are considerably bulkier than what Spidey actually pulls down, and that feat still has not been added to imgur (Don't look at me, I'm not downloading FFH,
Fair for now, we can look for other feats for Cap tier people later.
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Okay so I think these are all the effect profiles
People that need to become Class 10 based off Captain America scaling
People who outright have poor justifications and we need to actually look at
People that need to become Class 10 based off Captain America scaling
- Black Panther
- Winter Soldier
- Killmonger
- Red Skull
- Captain Carter
- Corvus Glaive
- Proxima
- Flash-Smasher
- US Agent
- Ultron
- Spider-Man (Raimi)
- Spider-Man (TASM)
- Vulture
- Lizard
- Electro
- Green Goblin (TASM)
- Green Goblin (Raimi)
- New Goblin
- Doctor Octopus
- Venom (Raimi)
- Sandman
People who outright have poor justifications and we need to actually look at
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FTFY, calc was accepted as Class 100 BTW, with a Class K calc at peak
Most seem fine, save for Ultron, was he that badly overpowered by Mark 43 Tony before the Vibranium upgrade?
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I feel like Spidey should get seperate keys from his Civil War self to his homecoming self to his infinity war/endgame self to his post endgame self
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I don't see the need honestly. His AP and dura does not change, and there'd be nothing properly explaining the massive jump in speed without ******* over the other already-established scaling chains.
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Wrong thread lol
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Cap did harm Spidey during Civil War and Spidey has gotten stronger and more experienced since then. Plus he even has more abilities after Civil War
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kinda connected tho LOL
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Hence the whole "AP remains largely unchanged" factor.
Like fancy precog and tech-based stuff?
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The lightning feats and Pumpkin Bombs? All lower than the Quicksilver feat.
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Oh, John Walker held on to this vehicle in the Falcon and Winter Soldier as per this glorious website from a ledge, prolly would've pulled it off two if he didn't get forcibly removed by Flag Smasher and her partner. Easy Class 10.
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Yeah, Tony's Micro Missiles, and Repulsor blasts easily damaged his body, with the Arm Missile One Shotting him. While all of Ultron's attacks (Gravity attacks and energy beams) barely did anything to Tony.
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Was mostly talking about lifting strength, I know Ultron is hopelessly outmatched in terms of AP.
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IIRC he can knock Tony back with his Energy Beams and Gravity attacks, whether fighting on the ground or in the air.
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I remember them grappling and wrestling against each other mid-flight.
EDIT: Yeah, they do, and neither can hold on to each other for long.
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There’s not really any change? He still scales to Cap’s level
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Don't think there's any evidence that Spider-Man got stronger. At best you argue he didn't know his full strength (which is the justification for him having higher LS people seem to agree on), which does not affect durability.
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Not sure about Ultron, since he also fights Cap that kinda messes with the scaling.
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Eh, now that I look at the fight, I don't see any scene where Cap ever has a noticeable LS advantage over Ultron. He's getting forcefully overpowered by Ultron every moment Cap tries to grapple.
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That’s an assassin’s creed gameplay video lol
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Bump
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I was just listing what the current ratings/scaling are.
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Pretty much. The most impressive thing Cap does here is managing to survive if anything
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Yeah, Bart/Hawkeye straight up states to Cap he's no match for Ultron and Cap agrees.
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I agree with no longer scaling off of Agents of Shield
Iron Man has a statement about Captain America being able to beat Spider-Man if he tried (Which upon having a group rewatch, my friends I collectively shook our head about that idea)
Iron Man has a statement about Captain America being able to beat Spider-Man if he tried (Which upon having a group rewatch, my friends I collectively shook our head about that idea)
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Yeah I personally don't believe that's remotely happening with spidey by NWH lol
Same unlike the netflix shows and even ******* inhumans with the blackbolt variant nothing has pointed to AoS even being considered remotely canon unless there's some recent WoG that went over my radar
My spoiler tag isn't working on mobile for some reason...actually none of the textbox buttons are
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I can start changing stuff, but I've lost where all the calcs are.
Can someone link the Spider-Man stuff? I can find that log website later and just get everyone swapped out.
Can someone link the Spider-Man stuff? I can find that log website later and just get everyone swapped out.
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