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Why are we having two different rule for how variants work, TVA management changed to no longer giving a shit about the sacred time-line, but that's still no going to change what a variant is at their core. Even if Norman didn't get cured, going to another universe and beating the shit out of another Spider-Man and killing his aunt before returning to his own timeline would still make him slightly different from his main counterpart.No, you become a variant for deviating from what the TVA used to consider the Sacred Timeline. And in No Way Home, you become a variant by defying your fate and changing your future.
...YeahAnd their fates are not changed. AT ALL.
Not until they actually defy their fate, STRANGE LITERALLY SAYS THAT IT'S THEIR FATE TO DIE FIGHTING SPIDER-MAN, until the Spider-Men themselves defy it.
No, you're the one not listening. THE VILLAINS ONLY BECOME VARIANTS AFTER THEY DEFY THEIR FATE. I.E. RIGHT WHERE OCK GETS FIXED AND GETS THE ARC REACTOR, AND RIGHT WHERE ELECTRO GETS FIXED.
Not until they actually defy their fate, STRANGE LITERALLY SAYS THAT IT'S THEIR FATE TO DIE FIGHTING SPIDER-MAN, until the Spider-Men themselves defy it.
Yes, if these versions of these character went back to their timelines, they most likely met the same fate as their original counterparts (In fact, wouldn't Ock and Electro still ******* die even if they cured). You keep bringing up fate, but I don't see any official statements about that having to do shit with how variants work (We had Loki and What If...? bring up variants and every time it's about changes in events, nothing about fate.
Read above.
I did. Is this not I said
Variants: Goblin, Ock, Lizard, Electro
Non-Variant: Spider-Dudes and Venom
Weird Grey Area: Sandman