Massive Goku Black, and Shenron Upgrades! Dragonball Fusions feats.

[TheEpicKingOfUltraLegends]

So, Goku Black destroyed several timepsaces consisting of anywhere from 6 to 18 Universes. Easily Multi-universal to Multiversal.

While, Regular Shenron has High Multiversal+ to Low Complex Multiversal feat at 6th dimensional.

Pictures are out of order. i am really sorry about that.

 

[The_Everlasting]

Let's not abuse real life theoretical physics here for Dragon Ball.

Also Fusions isn't canon.

 

[SomebodyData]

A- Non-canon (Unless you make video game profiles I guess)

B- When is it stated that Shenron is 6-D?

 

[JustSomeWeirdo]

Oh hey, more people doing things with Fusions

Anyways, DBF isn't canon to DBS or GT, and therefore doesn't scale

Also, Shenron only created the tournament with help from Beerus

 

[TheEpicKingOfUltraLegends]

But other non-canon Dragonball series got profiles?

 

[The_Everlasting]

A- Non-canon (Unless you make video game profiles I guess)
B- When is it stated that Shenron is 6-D?

The guy is correlating real life sixth dimensional physics (Which from the looks of it isn't actually the type we use here) to say Shenron is 6-D.

 

[TheEpicKingOfUltraLegends]

A- Non-canon (Unless you make video game profiles I guess)
B- When is it stated that Shenron is 6-D?

The guy is correlating real life sixth dimensional physics (Which from the looks of it isn't actually the type we use here) to say Shenron is 6-D.

What theory do you guys use?

Also no hositlity please. I mean no harm. [To anyone in general.}

 

[JustSomeWeirdo]

We don't make noncanon profiles for characters who aren't very different from their canon counterparts

(Also, funnily enough, I use the same coloration for my Saiyan)

 

[TheEpicKingOfUltraLegends]

What counts as being very different?

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

This would be beneficial for scaling to DBH Heroes CaC though.

 

[LordGriffin1000]

What counts as being very different?

Different events that happened to said character, different powers and such.

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

Goku Black (Super) scales to 3-A

Goku Black (Dragon Ball Fusions) sscaling to 2-C... Yeah. Also DBF and DBH/DBX [ likely Heroes ] are canon, so i'm sure anyone above SSB Goku would get 2-B instead of 2-C.

That's just being basic.

 

[TheEpicKingOfUltraLegends]

At the end of the game it reads to us at the end of the credits "Story is written by Akira Toriyama."

 

[Reppuzan]

@EpicKing

Doesn't matter. It doesn't fit into the timeline of the series at all and so it's non-canon.

None of the games are canon to the main series unless specified otherwise.

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

What Reppuzan said.

 

[JustSomeWeirdo]

Son Goku (Xeno), for example, is a case of being extremely different from canon (although, this also isn't the same Goku to begin with, but whatever)

(Also, I totally call making DBF profiles)

And yes, Goku Black would scale to 2-B in Fusions

 

[TheEpicKingOfUltraLegends]

The characters in Fusions are different from the main timeline. Why not make a profile for the strongest characters in that game, or the most relevant i should say?

 

[JustSomeWeirdo]

Well, outside of Goku and Vegeta being able to transform into Super Saiyan 4 (and Vegeta transforming into Super Saiyan 3), the only real differences is stats, so we'd just get "Son Goku, except he's 2-B"

I'm planning on making profiles for Tekka and Pinich though

 

[MinatoSparkle]

Well, outside of Goku and Vegeta being able to transform into Super Saiyan 4 (and Vegeta transforming into Super Saiyan 3), the only real differences is stats, so we'd just get "Son Goku, except he's 2-B"
I'm planning on making profiles for Tekka and Pinich though

Isn't that exactly what Xeno Son Goku is?

 

[JustSomeWeirdo]

Well, Xeno Goku has a bunch of different abilities, and is a different Goku entirely

 

[TurboTriangle601]

I'd say just make a separate key for Fusions Goku Black.

 

[JustSomeWeirdo]

Goku Black in Fusions isn't really that different

Although, he is immune to Body Change and I believe he can use Vegito's ki blade instead of the normal purple ki blade Zamasu uses, he also has a pure heart and is therefore immune to Devilmite Beam

Zamasu (or Zamas in DBF) uses Planet Bomb, which is essentially the generic brand of Big Bang Attack iirc and can buff speed and defense of allies (also has Pure Heart)

 

[IkaniL]

I thought they changed the rules to allow multiple similar versions but with different feats?

 

[TheEpicKingOfUltraLegends]

Okay i see people agree with Goku Black, but why not at least High Multiversal+ Shenron? instead of Complex multiversal? he did link all timelines together.

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

That would be 2-B unless higher dimensions is implied to be a thing in Xenoverse.

 

[JustSomeWeirdo]

That would only be a multiversal feat

And it was done with Beerus' help, revealed in Floor 6 after getting the Dragon Balls

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

That technically would be 2-B, even with help. There are the exact same # of timelines on DBH as there are in DBF.

 

[JustSomeWeirdo]

What I mean is that it's unknown how much work was done by Shenron's power

 

[TheEpicKingOfUltraLegends]

well there is an infinite number of timelines. You can't divide infinity by 2. So even though this is a shared feat both would be High Multiversal+?

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

That is true. If we assume it's half and half, it'd be 2-B. Albeit... That would imply interesting results. Like it would imply those stringer than regular Shenron is 2-B... Which messes up with the scaling a lot .

 

[TheEpicKingOfUltraLegends]

I wouldn't bother trying to apply sacling to DBF. it gets really crazy then.

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

It would mean that well before SSB and SSG were introduced : DBH , DBX , and DBF scale to 2-B... God that is actually stupid on all levels.

 

[TheEpicKingOfUltraLegends]

Well if no dimensional borders are being broken it is possible for all of them to still be High Multiversal+. it would be stupid but it is possible.

 

[JustSomeWeirdo]

Also, there's no reason to believe the feat is anything higher than Low 2-C

Shenron stated that a world was created, and we see Tekka and Pinkch get sucked into the Timespace Tournament, meaning it's a big assumption to say that Shenron straight up took all of the timelines and merged them, especially when we see that several characters are still in their respective timelines

It's most likely that Shenron just brought things to the timespace tournament world

 

[TheEpicKingOfUltraLegends]

No, he linked them together. He didn't merge them. He created a Super Universe, possibly several super universes, for the tournament but he also created a pocket dimension that has all of Timspace linked together. as stated by Zamas

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

What i just realized : They [ Ultra Pinich & Tekka's team ] headed to the real world in DBF, which was apparently above all of time and space [ Considering it's above the Timespace World, which is connected to all timelines ]. This same exact place is directly mentioned in DBH . Meaning... Ryu may have been unto something , but I'm not jinxing anything. At least it proves DBH and DBF are connected.

 

[JustSomeWeirdo]

Ziku is made by Bulma, not Shenron

Ziku-ku-kan just supports Bulma creating 2-B tech in DBF

Either way we're not upgrading Canon Shenron to 2-B, he's absolutely scared of Beerus

 

[JustSomeWeirdo]

DBF is connected to DBH by both connecting to Xenoverse

 

[The_Everlasting]

Is there like

Anything actually connecting DBF and Xenoverse besides Mira and Towa being characters?

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

I know. Not only was i attempting to double confirm that notion... But I was also just saying maybe Ryu was right about the real world transcending the Multiverse based on a rewatching of the events involving the real world in both Dragon Ball Heroes and now Dragon Ball Fusions.