Dragon Ball GT Immortalities Evil Dragons

[LuffyRuffy46307]

When did he made fun of you in that message? More over, you made the same to me and i certainly didn't made fun of you

Yes please.
And this time, return with evidence of immortality on a conceptual level rather than an energy-based level.

 

[Robo432343]

You grow up, I don't have to put up with other people making fun of me, if you think it's bad, report me, this is not a place for jokes.

what the actual fk dude

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

No idea where you got "purify" from when all goku was concerned there was purely power, which makes sense since Omega could regenerate

 

[Omegabronic]

............i will stop talking to avoid derailing, but man, he still answered your points with valid points, while you choose to ignore all points by saying that "they are half assed" and "the guy making them is a comedian" heck, in my case i did nothing at all and you still acted that way, and in null's case? That was a little quip, i saw how he talks arround these parts, that is just how he talks to everyone

Don't see where it is said "they needed to purefy the evil energy to kill omega" that is what i wqs refering to

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

............i will stop talking to avoid derailing, but man, he still answered your points with valid points, while you choose to ignore all points by saying that "they are half assed" and "the guy making them is a comedian" heck, in my case i did nothing at all and you still acted that way, and in null's case? That was a little quip, i saw how he talks arround these parts, that is just how he talks to everyone

In fact, I've already answered your points with arguments, I don't see why continue with this derailment of yours, besides we joke every day, you're known, but I can't stand it third parties bugging me, that's all.

As soon as he talks to everyone

I'm not everyone :3

 

[Omegabronic]

In fact, I've already answered your points with arguments, I don't see why continue with this derailment of yours, besides we joke every day, you're known, but I can't stand it third parties bugging me, that's all.

You didn't answered any of my points at all, you didn't even said anything about my first message regarding why it isn't conceptual

 

[Vietthai96]

I agree with your suggestions. For the bringing disorder to nature, elder kaioshin mentions that the dragon ball are like "cosmic cheat codes" and can hurl the cosmos order into chaos. So this should possibly warrant chaos manipulation, the power of disorter opposed to order.

Chaos/Law hax at the same time, since distort order is also a form of law hax

Like other have said, remove the Budokai scan, and the immortality 8 is non-combat applicable

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

You didn't answered any of my points at all, you didn't even said anything about my first message regarding why it isn't conceptual

The word "concept" sometimes shouldn't be taken too seriously, as it's not mentioned at all in any media, it's just to report that it's kind of a thing that happens to excess.

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Chaos/Law hax at the same time, since distort order is also a form of law hax

Like other have said, remove the Budokai scan, and the immortality 8 is non-combat applicable

Already

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Well, we have one administrator agreeing with everything, but another one going on her side to be limited, I'm going to call in a few more to help me with that.

 

[Omegabronic]

The word "concept" sometimes shouldn't be taken too seriously, as it's not mentioned at all in any media, it's just to report that it's kind of a thing that happens to excess.

Here on the wiki it is, conceptual hax is a big thing

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

I understand, but this is due to the excessive use of Dragon Balls (which creates evil energy)

 

[Omegabronic]

I understand, but this is due to the excessive use of Dragon Balls (which creates evil energy)

So it isn't reliant on any concept

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Chaos/Law hax at the same time, since distort order is also a form of law hax

It is possible?

 

[Lonkitt]

I agree with the Immortality additions as it does come from the Dragon Balls, but I would prefer using the Anime as an example rather than Budokai 3.

My thoughts are the same

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

My thoughts are the same

Thank you very much for your attention and for sharing your thoughts.

 

[Lonkitt]

No problem

 

[Nullflowerblush]

I agree with your suggestions. For the bringing disorder to nature, elder kaioshin mentions that the dragon ball are like "cosmic cheat codes" and can hurl the cosmos order into chaos. So this should possibly warrant chaos manipulation, the power of disorter opposed to order.

Because they warp reality on a whim.

 

[Omegabronic]

I agree with the Immortality additions as it does come from the Dragon Balls, but I would prefer using the Anime as an example rather than Budokai 3.

My thoughts are the same

seeing as how you 2 agreed with it, i can't help but ask what are your opinions on some contentions, not disagreements as luffy put in the op, but some contentions for the points in the op that i feel like are important to talk about, these 2:

About immortality type 4 for nuova shenron:

short of agreed, but it would be limited since he needs omega shenron to give him evil energy for him to revive

About immortality type 8:

i agree on immortality type 8, but it would not be combat aplicable as they would need the dragon balls to be overused to get revived, so it would also be "limited" immortality, and it would also be type 4 just like nuova, type 8 is having other types of immortality as long as something exists to grant it, this being the dragon balls, so it would be:

Immortality type 4 and 8 (Not combat aplicable, Every time the dragon balls are overused the shadow dragons will appear due to the evil energy accumulated in them)

No.

Type 4 Immortality requires that the user can resurrect/reincarnate indefinitely. However, Nuova Shenron was only able to return to life because Omega Shenron restored life to his Dragon Ball with his Negative Energy. This is a Resurrection feat for Omega Shenron, not an Immortality feat for Nuova Shenron.

Agree, just cut that Budokai shit out.

 

[Vietthai96]

Bump

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Bump

Now just apply what was accepted, lol

 

[Omegabronic]

Now just apply what was accepted, lol

There is a divide in staff opinion between griffin and the other 2, we have to wait for their opinion on the matter

Plus 2 agrees is not enough for something big such as conceptual immortality to pass

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

No, we don't have to wait, it's been 48 hours.

 

[Omegabronic]

No, we don't have to wait, it's been 48 hours.

Yeah, and we have a staff divide in opinions, griffin agreed with my wording and that it isn't combat aplicable or conceptual based, so we need to wait other staff to give opinions on that

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Yeah, and we have a staff divide in opinions, griffin agreed with my wording and that it isn't combat aplicable or conceptual based, so we need to wait other staff to give opinions on that

LordGriffin was outvoted, immortality is not based on concepts, I already explained that about Op, would you stop derailing my Op? If in doubt, make your own.

 

[Omegabronic]

LordGriffin was outvoted

by 1 vote of a thread mod, admins have more voting power than thresd mods, so the difference isn't enough to make a decision

immortality is not based on concepts, I already explained that about Op

with the wording you put in the op it what you are implying

, would you stop derailing my Op? If in doubt, make your own.

I am doing no derail whatsoever

 

[Vietthai96]

Now just apply what was accepted, lol

That was immortality, there is also Chaos/Law hax from @Borutonarutodebunked which no staff comment on it

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

That was immortality, there is also Chaos/Law hax from @Borutonarutodebunked which no staff comment on it

I will tag they are

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Everyone read the scans and everything, Omega, no one just looked and agreed with it, anyway, we also have an administrator vote and a moderator vote (if you really want to use the term hierarchy to say that one is more superior than the others, remember that you are totally against it in another crt)

Anyway, we have two votes is enough for this to happen, and LordGriffin has been outvoted, and besides me demonstrating another argument about his argument against the Op, he still hasn't responded and I won't wait any longer.

 

[ShakeResounding]

... Why the **** is Omega and everyone who agreed with him in "Disagree" when we very blatantly agreed with Type 8 Immortality? All he disagreed with was the use of Budokai 3 and noting that Type 8 is non-combat applicable.

I'm not sure why you seem to despise Omega so much so that you blatantly spite him, insult him, and disregard his word any chance you get. But if you stay on this path, this will inevitably end in you getting reported.

Anyway, we have two votes is enough for this to happen, and LordGriffin has been outvoted, and besides me demonstrating another argument about his argument against the Op, he still hasn't responded and I won't wait any longer.

Unless the vote count is outdated, a 2-1 staff ratio is incomplete for passing a CRT (and Lonkitt is my ******* guy, but, stupidly, Thread Mods don't mean all that much in terms of agreeing on CRTs). You have no CHOICE but to wait.

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

I agree with your suggestions. For the bringing disorder to nature, elder kaioshin mentions that the dragon ball are like "cosmic cheat codes" and can hurl the cosmos order into chaos. So this should possibly warrant chaos manipulation, the power of disorter opposed to order.

Is agree with omega's points. Immortality 4 and 8 are ok but it needs to be explained that it's not combat applicable.

No problem

I agree with the Immortality additions as it does come from the Dragon Balls, but I would prefer using the Anime as an example rather than Budokai 3.

Could you look into that?

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

this will inevitably end in you getting reported.

I've already been denounced, but I'm not doing anything much now, I'm not disrespecting anyone

Unless the vote count is outdated, a 2-1 staff ratio is incomplete for passing a CRT (and Lonkitt is my ******* guy, but, stupidly, Thread Mods don't mean all that much in terms of agreeing on CRTs). You have no CHOICE but to wait.

We actually don't have to wait, it's been 48 hours, we won in votes, and please be more respectful when you talk to me.

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

by 1 vote of a thread mod, admins have more voting power than thresd mods, so the difference isn't enough to make a decision

This is not correct. Admins and thread mods have the same evaluation rights when it pertains to CRT. The difference is the admins also have the rights of a content mod alongside their thread mod rights.

The problem here in general is that this is DB, one of the most controversial verses on site, and thus requires a staff consensus of at least 3 votes.

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

This is not correct. Admins and thread mods have the same evaluation rights when it pertains to CRT. The difference is the admins also have the rights of a content mod alongside their thread mod rights.

The problem here in general is that this is DB, one of the most controversial verses on site, and thus requires a staff consensus of at least 3 votes.

Could you give your opinion, bro?

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

(and Lonkitt is my ******* guy, but, stupidly, Thread Mods don't mean all that much in terms of agreeing on CRTs).

You are getting confused with content mods. Content mods do not have evaluation rights for CRT (paradoxically despite the name of their position, but it is what it is).

 

[Omegabronic]

This is not correct. Admins and thread mods have the same evaluation rights when it pertains to CRT. The difference is the admins also have the rights of a content mod alongside their thread mod rights.

The problem here in general is that this is DB, one of the most controversial verses on site, and thus requires a staff consensus of at least 3 votes.

Huh, @ImmortalDread told me otherwise in another thread...............huh, dunno what to think now honestly

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

In fact, you would have to eliminate all the negative energy that is caused by the excess spheres to defeat the evil dragons (so that they can return to what they were before), killing just one will not help, as they are made of energy and evil energy. can bring them back, like case that happened with 4 sphere, right here it is mentioned that you need to purify the evil energy to end it

Goku at the end of episode 63 had to use genki dama to purify all negative energy (it was said that it is the only way to kill evil dragons), purifying all evil energy.

Could I come again, bro?

Also, I've shown counterarguments to Omega's answer.

 

[ShakeResounding]

This is not correct. Admins and thread mods have the same evaluation rights when it pertains to CRT. The difference is the admins also have the rights of a content mod alongside their thread mod rights.

Yeah, got them and content mods switched up lol. My b

The problem here in general is that this is DB, one of the most controversial verses on site, and thus requires a staff consensus of at least 3 votes.

Yeah I get it, I know for some reason staff always seem to cross Snake Way before commenting. Whenever your thread is being left half-days at a time without a comment, just try and find some reliable and neutral staff in the meantime?

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

Huh, @ImmortalDread told me otherwise in another thread...............huh, dunno what to think now honestly

Read here

Whenever your thread is being left half-days at a time without a comment, just try and find some reliable and neutral staff in the meantime?

Pretty much

 

[Omegabronic]

Read here


Pretty much

Oh i see what i got wrong now, thanks