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Massive Fate Servant upgrade [Réalta Nua]
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bro thinks he's creative, sending the same thing twice
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Also, you're going to tell why is it so much of a "metal gymnastics" as you suggest. If what we're doing, the people that disagree with you, can be called "mental gymnastic" then what you're doing is being too simple-minded and seeing too little into the actual context.
This is always like that. A wonderful statement or feat, then we get the context, then it destroys everything.
This is always like that. A wonderful statement or feat, then we get the context, then it destroys everything.
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people are tired of deagon's shit. when i showed some people the thread, nearly all of them went "what do you expect with deagon"
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And yet @CrimsonStarFallen is literally attempting to explain to you why you're wrong in the Discord right now and you still aren't listening.
But sure.
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What about mageman? Isn't he a supporter too? Also, I state this again, but Deagonx is ONE STAFF MEMBER.
If the thing you propose was legitimately obvious and that Deagonx was of bad faith, the thread would be already accepted. He can't block an entire thread all by himself.
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bro is getting cooked from all sides like a fillet mignon
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no, just you.
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would still like this answered btw
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alright then. let me know if we ever circle back to that, since I have no interest in most FGO things
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Most sane person
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I'm not sane, I just traded one hell for another
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i said that requies a lot more mental gymnastics. you cannot make this shit up.
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Incorrect. The fragments were enough to destroy Shinjuku. Not the entire signularity.
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Shinjuku obviously means the entire singularity. Da Vinci wouldnt have went through the trouble of hyping them up if they were normal city level fragments. infact, ANY servant couldve took care of it.
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Ah yes, any of the servants who don't have the range or Anti-Fortress NP to actually hit the fragments in the sky. On top of that there were two servants there, the one who fragmented the entire meteor. And then the one that vaporized it. It makes no narrative sense for a fragmented meteor to be more powerful than the entire meteor. As again, the entire meteor needed to hit the core to actually destroy the planet.
Ignore Dantes, dude is OP and probably could have just dealt with the entire meteor.
All of the meteor fragments were likely still aiming for Ritsuka. Making each one still a threat. Even beyond that if each fragment was enough to destroy the city of Shnjuku, that would still be bad even if servants could survive it. Because Ritsuka could not. And Ritsuka dying is game over.
All of the meteor fragments were likely still aiming for Ritsuka. Making each one still a threat. Even beyond that if each fragment was enough to destroy the city of Shnjuku, that would still be bad even if servants could survive it. Because Ritsuka could not. And Ritsuka dying is game over.
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"Obviously" isn't evidence.
What other servants have a large AoE attack that can get rid of a bunch of meteor fragments in the sky?
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Siegfried
Mordred
Ishtar
literally any servant that can shoot a laser in some capacity
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Which of those servants were there ...
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Still doesn’t deny the fact that swatting away a normal ass meteor is a casual feat for a servant.
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Oh, and goetia holy grails create these singularities which at the bare minimum have showed the ability to create the earth, and explicitly power up characters. Yet the main protag and his servants are capable of beating them.
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no no no you see the holy grails were just for goofs just for laughs. why arent you laughing?
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Hey guess what. Once Moriarty was defeated, the meteor became just a regular meteor.
Also as a note, the grails do indeed create a singularity. However, they also sustain the singularity. In fact, they likely scale to 3-A or Low 2-C at least instead of 5-B. As they don't just stop at Earth.
| Artoria Alter | Archer, look...! |
| Emiya Alter | Seems like something happened to the bullet! Guess we're just dealing with a regular meteor now! |
Also as a note, the grails do indeed create a singularity. However, they also sustain the singularity. In fact, they likely scale to 3-A or Low 2-C at least instead of 5-B. As they don't just stop at Earth.
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So just I'm sure to have understood, he was arguing for servant to be scaled at the grail then, right?
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Yes, see below.
This doesn't really work because while certain servants do get buffed by the grail, it should not be assumed they have the full power of the grail because the grail is still sustaining the entire singularity.
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Yeah, that's what I thought. It's pretty much impossible to assume this. Imagine the amount of anti-feat in the story as a result.
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Even if this is the case and grails are really tier 2/3, then there should be no problem scaling the rest of the grail empowered servants to cu being able to destroy the planet, as they are gaining energy from a universe level source. Planet level is a MUCH lower magnitude than universe level. it'd take like 0.00000000000000000000000000001% of its powers to buff the servants to that level.
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So for one, Cu Alter isn't grail empowered when he fights Scathach. Dude is just built different. He only gets empowered by the grail after Medb loses. However, the grail is using it's power to sustain the singularity so he obviously doesn't scale to the grail's full power. He gets an unknown amp.
As for the Cu statement of being able to destroy the world, it's likely just a flowery statement or a hyperbole. Even if it is taken seriously, Scathach says he can destroy the "world" not the "planet." Which could be interpreted as a much lower level of power. Beyond all of that, it is through the usage of his Curruid Coinchenn Noble Phantasm. Something he only uses against Scathach and destroys 90% of her organs in one attack. The only reason she survived is because she is immortal. No one and nothing scales to this NP. His NP is also ridiculously powerful. Using it he one shot Heracles with God Hand and Salter.
As for the Cu statement of being able to destroy the world, it's likely just a flowery statement or a hyperbole. Even if it is taken seriously, Scathach says he can destroy the "world" not the "planet." Which could be interpreted as a much lower level of power. Beyond all of that, it is through the usage of his Curruid Coinchenn Noble Phantasm. Something he only uses against Scathach and destroys 90% of her organs in one attack. The only reason she survived is because she is immortal. No one and nothing scales to this NP. His NP is also ridiculously powerful. Using it he one shot Heracles with God Hand and Salter.
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His altered state is created by the grail, so maybe he himself wasnt empowered until later, but his powers were still a product of the grail. Demon god pillars are stronger than even that, since cu used the grail to allow one to over take his body. Kingu was also compared to a demon pillar in magical energy.
Not likely considering what the grail is capabale of. World is typically used very liberally in nasu anyway.
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Agree with Deagonx’s counterpoints and thus disagree with Tier 5 upgrades.
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based and deagonpilled
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ok, but what about the multi continent meta. muti layered defense. gg.
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The one High 6-A thing you posted? That once again no one scales to. Also, please provide proof that the meteor that hit the Arctic is actually the second largest meteor while the one headed for LA was the largest. You have still yet to do so.
Or do you mean the 6-A+ thing you posted. That no one scales to.
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bruh.
i've already said why characters scale, im not repeating that again.
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