Well, there have been several different discussions here, so it isn't so easy for me to know.
But the Zone is already High 1-B here in the wiki anyway. The tiering for the characters are other questions.
yeah i agree, we should just conclude this thread.
Okay? I don’t see what that has to do with anything. TWSAIS being able to freely exist in the Outside while Lifebringer Galactus can’t was the most solid evidence for them being Low 1-A.
and even so, TSWAIS quote Thor feats in the same comic.
And the relevancy is…?
More evidence for Thor being above them and thus the Scalling with Galactus.
I sort of see that, but from the story it seems like they're not even in a position to fight him, so they can't prevent him from destroying the loom. I think assuming he just transcends them is far-fetched based on the available evidence.
Oh, so that is what you meant. I agree with that then. I think that we included it as a part of the RKT tier justifications.
Okay, but it still doesn't make any sense for the Negative Zone and the regular Marvel Universe to be High 1-B each. It seems more likely that the Fantastic Four entered some kind of higher-dimensional nexus area that could be accessed via the Negative Zone, similar to the Swamp Thing's nexus of all realities and the M'kraan Crystal.
Yes.
Looks good content-wise. There are a few minor grammatical/capitalization errors but nothing glaring
The hax from them being Beyonders should preferably have a Possibly or Likely attached to them.
For references you only need to use once, do <ref></ref> with the name of the comic in the middle.Also someone please tell me how to do references
Directly next to the text i want to reference?
Lmao
Yeah, that’s exactly how you do it.
If the thread about Low 1-A via absorption gets through then i will add it into the justification
Yes, feel free to do so.
Are you referring to the Celestials from The Celestial war in the first cosmos?
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That was also my understanding. The Celestials that Lifebringer Galactus fought were intended to be vastly more powerful than normal CelestialsAre you referring to the Celestials from The Celestial war in the first cosmos?
They have supposedly created every race of The Beyonders and were capable of shattering The First Firmament
They are definitely 1-A from what i understand (so as everyone apparently what is happening to the ratings
Well, they created The Beyonders, but their creations have been proven to be more powerful than themselves, and shattering The First Firmament was likely done via weapons.Are you referring to the Celestials from The Celestial war in the first cosmos?
They have supposedly created every race of The Beyonders and were capable of shattering The First Firmament
They are definitely 1-A from what i understand (so as everyone apparently what is happening to the ratings
When the aspirants (who are equal to the celestials) invaded the 7th multiverse, The Beyonders had to create Earth to defeat them, this possibly implies that they couldn't defeat The Aspirants
3-C seems weird, it doesn't make sense for any of the middle heralds to keep up with Celestials, who are consistently shown to be above the 2-A skyfathers
That makes sense to me. Certain individual Celestials are more consistently 2-A+, like Exitar, Arishem and Scathan, but others might not reach that level. The very strongest (like the Dark Celestials and possibly The One Above All Celestial) are certainly 1-A though
If it's from King in Black Vol 1 1, wasn't it a dead Celestial?
Not exactly by himself, but ok
Wasn't she and Thor both empowered by the blood of Ymir?
That Iron Man armour was The Godkiller Mark 2, which was created for circumstances like Celestials, no?
Knull defeated them previously and then controlled them, but that should not affect their power levels as far as I am aware. (Odinforce Thor was shown as comparable to Knull though, but was stabbed in the back while he was distracted.)
Thank you.
They were in practice just larger than normal, and even the entire power of Ymir himself shouldn't reach anywhere near that level.
It doesn't particularly matter though, as it is just a giant robot version of his regular armor, and didn't the Hulk also recently destroy such an armor?
