Tony Stark Intelligence Upgrade (Comics)

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

My apologies, but we need to follow our standards even for characters that we really like.

I actually severely dislike Tony

 

[Tomfer]

Instead of y'all just throwing all the feats here, the OP should add scans for versatility.

Y'all better not wait for me because after what Ant said, I immediately lost interest on this thread entirely, and I make Phoenks words mine.

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

Y'all better not wait for me because after what Ant said, I immediately lost interest on this thread entirely, and I make Phoenks words mine.

Need this closed then?

 

[Tomfer]

Need this closed then?

I'd wait 24 hours just to see if someone wishes to take the wheel in my stead or wishes to discuss further, if so, I'd update the OP accordingly to their needs, otherwise you're to free to close whenever you want.

 

[Phoenks]

Pretty sure most people think Ant's claims are ridiculous. I don't have Iron Man scans so I can't exactly just take over the thread, but like... there's already more than enough to say the guy is supergenius and you have a vote in favor of that in the form of Lephyr.

 

[Antvasima]

Look, as the full quote regarding our Supergenius requirements quite clearly shows, there should be a combination of reality-warping versatility and literally infinite power in order to qualify. For example, if an inventor's only claim to fame is to create a gun that can hurt the Low 1-C game version of Goku, that should not qualify.

Personal accusations, agitation, and hostility towards me are misdirected and unnecessary here. Currently I think that Tony qualifies for either "At least Extraordinary Genius, possibly Supergenius" or "At least Extraordinary Genius, likely Supergenius", but to achieve a certain Supergenius rating somebody needs to prove that he is extremely versatile in terms of his types of inventions, preferably by listing several good examples here. I am not unreasonable in that regard.

 

[Excellence616]

Look, as the full quote regarding our Supergenius requirements quite clearly shows, there should be a combination of reality-warping versatility and literally infinite power in order to qualify.

Can someone get Super genius by scaling to someone who is?

For example, if an inventor's only claim to fame is to create a gun that can hurt the Low 1-C game version of Goku, that should not qualify.

Goku is different from Celestials.. in the sense that The Celestials are Higher D and BDE in terms of existence and power, while Goku is only Low 1-C based on AP.

"And in-verse, the gap between him and Reed or Doom has always been treated as fairly small. And here, "Lord Thor" also says that his technology was nearly a match for Asgardian wizardry. Him singling out Iron Man when talking about massive threats to his reign, even when other characters like Scarlet Witch and Doctor Strange attacked him, feels significant."

Wouldn't this be sufficient enough to warrant Super genius?

 

[Antvasima]

Can someone get Super genius by scaling to someone who is?

Preferably not, especially given the enormous inconsistencies and conflicting writer biases or uninformed evaluations by them in Marvel Comics. We have our standards and they have theirs, and we scale from actual feats, versatility, and power output.

For example, Marvel's editorial department has heavily tried to (suddenly) promote Moon Girl as more intelligent than either Reed Richards or Doctor Doom, but she would still have to prove it through her own feats before we rate her beyond Extraordinary Genius.

Goku is different from Celestials.. in the sense that The Celestials are Higher D and BDE in terms of existence and power, while Goku is only Low 1-C based on AP.

Yes, but I used an example for that one trick pony attack potency scale alone is not remotely sufficient to qualify.

Wouldn't this be sufficient enough to warrant Super genius?

No, those are just opinions, not proven feats of accomplishment.