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I mean, sure, but why does the black hole matter? It's just a random black hole that exists in World 6, it doesn't really serve any more purpose than aesthetics.Foxthefox1000 said:I still feel there's an upgrade to the 3-C rating from the black hole in Galaxy 2 being as big as World 5 that had multiple galaxies. We can use the World Map to justify speed, but not AP? Seems weird. But I suppose it doesn't matter much.
When does Bowser fall into it? When does he manipulate it? It only exists on the World Map and isn't really seen or touched on outside of this... Plus, we see the Green Prankster Comet fly past World 6 (which happens after the 120 Star ending, ergo post-Bowser's defeat) with the black hole still there, so we know it doesn't dissipate when he's defeated.Foxthefox1000 said:Because Bowser falls into it and manipulates it and also it dissipates when he's defeated? Should scale to durability and AP for the high-end of the varies rating, with either a really high 3-C or a pretty low 3-B unless the energy to create that black hole and sustain it is lower.
https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/3896019LuckyEmile said:Could anyone provide a link to Dino's CRT please?
How did you connect a black and red-coloured black hole to a purple vortex exactly? Are you trying to say he manipulated its colour as well? How did you perceive these two as one, exactly? Not to mention the black hole on the world map dwarved Bowser's faceship and was found outside it, whilst Bowser created the vortex inside his own faceship...Foxthefox1000 said:In the battle, you see Bowser roar and the background shifts and changes. That's him manipulating it.
Somehow I expected this point to be made... I find it weird he'd create a lair and then not be in it... The only reason I can think of is that it would mean that those looking to fight him wouldn't find him in the most obvious place to look but... you know, he has a portal leading right to his location. I guess it's up in the air. (Also, it being a black hole doesn't necessarily make it the same black hole, referring to the first point in this quote...)Foxthefox1000 said:The color doesn't matter because that IS the manipulation. It changes to that purple vortex (which sucks in light and does have a black hole end) and when it collapses on his defeat, that massive black hole is gone. Plus, how do you know he created it inside the ship when you enter a portal to get to his lair?
Ah, that's fair enough, sorry for being a pain. I'm glad you gave me the time to explain your view nonetheless, you explained it pretty well so I have a good idea of how the argument works (so now I can use it in my own debates >:3). I still think the evidence is shaky, but I still appreciate the explanation.Foxthefox1000 said:Eh, I still don't agree with your views. But I don't want the headache of arguing against a brick wall that's not even faltering when we're leading back to the same place.
I've had a few debates on this topic and the conclusion of "Cappy magic", as you once put it, or rather Cappy being the one to recreate Mario's body was seen as just as valid a conclusion of how this all works by those who opposed. So I don't think we can write that off just yet, at least not so non-chalantly. I'm not saying I'm opposed, just that some folks have brought it up.Foxthefox1000 said:Wouldn't he need Cappy's help? Except he doesn't.