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Light in the Darkness (Sora Vs Chaos (Fate))
- Thread starter Bobsican
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Why?
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Prove it
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That's not even accepted.
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As Regidian said in this conversation, infinite layers were never accepted in the first place. In fact, no hax layer was ever accepted for Nasuverse's characters.
Fezzih_007
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How Sora can kill him? Or defeat him for that matter?
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Did chaos's page get updated yet? or is it still outdated
TheKingStrategist13
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To quote a a very quotable man in a Red Coat, "What the hell is this?"
... Well, should prove interesting at least.
... Well, should prove interesting at least.
Vietthai96
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Anyway, Chaos upscaled from Machine Gods so yes, but Chaos is almost featless so it is very hard to argue for. Anyway aside from the notorious infinite layers hax, due to Chaos upscaled from Machine Gods, the ship is at least have two digits layer in hax
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what are the wincons for both characters?
also which form is being used for sora?
also which form is being used for sora?
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Lmao so we were always lied to?
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Not entirely, it was accepted that they have layers, but the number of layers was never accepted which makes said layers impossible to use in a versus debate. Until a proper revision is made, that would make them one or two layers above baseline at best and nothing more.
It might change in the future, but considering how massive the verse is it will take a while (possibly years) to make an actual and complete revision for the hax layers.
Regarding the wincons, Sora have Sealing which would be the most immediate wincon I can think of for him. Howewer, for Chaos I have no idea since I am not really knowledgeable about the Nasuverse in it's entirety.
I also believe it's important to say that Sora have more than 27 hax layers as accepted here, which would put him higher than Chaos at the moment.
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you wouldn't know that coz hurr durr infinite layers
Vietthai96
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Nope, baseline is Magecraft haxes, and Magecraft hax already have many layers, Authority is vastly above Magecraft and Chaos is way above Machine Gods as Machine Gods Authority is just small fragments of its full Authority. Like i said, even without proper revision, the layer alone is two digit number, at least over 20 layers, from what i could remember
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If it's not accepted then it's unusable.
Fezzih_007
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Well, i pretty sure Chaos first move is using his NP, World Discipline Keraunos, a AOE attack of the size of the planet, that destroy everything in a Conceptual level.
Fezzih_007
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So like, AP difference? Because yeah, Sora can't do much against that.
Bobsican
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Is the upscaling quantificable in proper multipliers? Otherwise it's just unquantifiable (thus negligible) and we can't make up values on the spot, as much Statistics Amplification doesn't have an inherent multiplier value.
And Sora has more than sufficient range for that, let alone planetary range with magic, and full cosmological 6-D range with the X-Blade. And he has true flight, so the area of SBA being destroyed doesn't affect him, especially as he more than resists EE.
As for this, I presume you mean out of the size? Well, the page right now just says an "Unknown" Large Size, so we'd be obligated to go for the low-end that'd be type 0 here, as much characters that are a certain tier without further detail are just deemed baseline.
And Sora has more than sufficient range for that, let alone planetary range with magic, and full cosmological 6-D range with the X-Blade. And he has true flight, so the area of SBA being destroyed doesn't affect him, especially as he more than resists EE.
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Fezzih_007
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Sora cutting buildings is so cool.
Anyway, Interact with Chaos is hard, because he distort space and time between himself and the opponent, making the distance Infinite, and make them go to different directions while trying to Go forward.
Tdjwo
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What I mean is, Chaos is beyond even Nonexistence. How can Sora interact with that?
Tdjwo
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It's already accepted but for some reason, it's not on his profile. Instead, it's on Abigail's profile used as a supporting evidence for NEP Yog-Sothoth.
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Chaos seems to not have NEP but reside in a void beyond nonexistence which is just resistance to void manip (from another profile).
Fezzih_007
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Not sure what AP value Sora is yet, but Chaos is pretty powerfull.
If i not mistaking, if i am correct me please, Chaos is so strong that even Goetia wouldn't be able to to defeat him, even with a fully charge Ars Almadel Salomonis. Ars Almadel Salomonis power is equivalent to hundreds of millions of Excaliburs, normally, and is even higher after gathering energy.
If i not mistaking, if i am correct me please, Chaos is so strong that even Goetia wouldn't be able to to defeat him, even with a fully charge Ars Almadel Salomonis. Ars Almadel Salomonis power is equivalent to hundreds of millions of Excaliburs, normally, and is even higher after gathering energy.
Bobsican
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Uh... the comparison to "hundreds of millions of Excaliburs" appears to just be on regards of heat, not of overall power (aka, AP), and considering we're on tier 1 that's thus overall unquantificable, respectively, especially with how Excalibur here can wildly vary in tier.
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Fezzih_007
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Why Sora have acess to the X-Blade?
Is refering the energy output actually.
Anyway, Chaos first move would be probally be firing a energy heat rays arrows attack at Sora, because is the first thing he does when appearing, and if that fails, he uses his Noble Phantasm, that Sora don't have much answers to.
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Wait, was this accepted?
