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Shit, as much as i don't like Wall level Ikki, i can't think of a counter for that right now.Gemmysaur said:
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Kurogane Ikki (Rakudai Kishi no Cavalry/Eiyuutan) Stat Check Part 2
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Base Ikki was at wall level before the edits were made. I am okay with this finding (now for Itto Shura and Rasetsu amped Ikki).
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he was Room LevelCrazystarf said:
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He was at Room level before we started this, actually. Anyway, if we're going with Wall level Base Ikki, he woud be Room/Small Building level with IS and just barely Building level with IR. And this is assuming the absolute highest end for Wall level. Can't say i'm happy with this.Crazystarf said:
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Well, IS should be Room Level considering Stella Durability
So, at least Wall/Wall+ Level Base Ikki is more than reasonable
So, at least Wall/Wall+ Level Base Ikki is more than reasonable
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We didn't just accepted that feat at Small Building Level (Anti-Tank Wall)?Gemmysaur said:
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And it was at this moment that i realized that Wall level Ikki is consistent.
Well, shit.
Wall level it is.
But we would need a calc to know the exact value.
Well, shit.
Wall level it is.
But we would need a calc to know the exact value.
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1. Your language, pleaseNotEvenHuman said:
2. Calc what? Actually, I onyl have a Wall Level feat for Ikki in the manga
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@KaenDragneel Off the top of my head, Ikki's best feat in base is destroying that rock golem in Vol. 3. We don't have the manga version for that yet, but it should be out this month.
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Actually, forget about that. He was using IS. Still, we could probably scale him from this feat, since he was superior/equal to Stella in physical stats at that point in the story. Also, this is lasting longer than expected. We might have to make a third thread.NotEvenHuman said:
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1. I could calc that laterNotEvenHuman said:
2. about the thread, up to 200 comments is fine
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@KaenDragneel
1. Ok, thanks.
2. I'm not saying we should make another thread right now, but we might need another one.
1. Ok, thanks.
2. I'm not saying we should make another thread right now, but we might need another one.
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1. No problem, I'll do it after Yami's calc
2. Yeah, around the ~190 I'll create another one, and close this one
2. Yeah, around the ~190 I'll create another one, and close this one
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Low End
Base Ikki = 0.0003094314053537 Tons of TNT = Wall level
Ittou Shura = 0.003094314053537 Tons of TNT = Wall level+
Ittou Razetsu = 0.03094314053537 Tons of TNT = Room level
High End
Base Ikki = 0.004641472275334608031 Tons of TNT = Wall level+
Ittou Shura = 0.04641472275334608031 Tons of TNT = Room level
Ittou Razetsu = 0.4641472275334608031 Tons of TNT = Building level
If you ask me, I'll choose the High End, considering than Stella did it with ease (and because I only calc the crater only (excluding the the damage around)
Base Ikki = 0.0003094314053537 Tons of TNT = Wall level
Ittou Shura = 0.003094314053537 Tons of TNT = Wall level+
Ittou Razetsu = 0.03094314053537 Tons of TNT = Room level
High End
Base Ikki = 0.004641472275334608031 Tons of TNT = Wall level+
Ittou Shura = 0.04641472275334608031 Tons of TNT = Room level
Ittou Razetsu = 0.4641472275334608031 Tons of TNT = Building level
If you ask me, I'll choose the High End, considering than Stella did it with ease (and because I only calc the crater only (excluding the the damage around)
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Well, that was faster than i expected. Honestly, i would also go with the high end, specially if you didn't calculate the damage around. Still, you should post the calc as a blog, so we can get this calc accepted.
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I working on the blog
And... I didn't calc the damage around because I dont know how to doy it correctly ;-;
And... I didn't calc the damage around because I dont know how to doy it correctly ;-;
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Where did the calc come from? I'm kinda confused with what everyone's talking about.
IS Ikki cut Stella who had small building durability via passive shielding right? So IS should atleast be small building level.
Small Building Level = Room Level AP.
Let's go with high end.
IS Ikki cut Stella who had small building durability via passive shielding right? So IS should atleast be small building level.
Small Building Level = Room Level AP.
Let's go with high end.
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Ok, let's see if this is accepted.
Also, lol.
Also, lol.
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Consistency is realGemmysaur said:
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I just commented about that on the blog, so i'm not repeating that here, but that reasoning isn't really valid.
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leave me dream, dude
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Anyway, since we apparently have Ikki's AP out of the way for now, there are a few things i want to talk about. Let's start with the easiest one: Tsuruya's Satin Ice.
The magic she unleashed from her monocle -a rare sight among Devices- was one that could instantly reduce the temperature of a selected area within her vision to Absolute Zero.
"Satin Ice!"
A glaring light wrapped in a frigid, cutting shroud shot forth from the monocle.
This magic's speciality was that its effect triggered instantly upon her focusing on a target. In other words, this magic travelled at what was effectively the speed of light.
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The light in Mikoto's eyes instantly turned to magic.
Along her line of sight, sword-like pillars of ice burst out along the ground as they crossed the space between her and Stella, as though she intended to freeze it all.
ÒÇîOnce again, Tsuruya goes on the offensive, launching attack after attack of Satin Ice at Stella, who for her part is staying out of her vision! The Crimson Princess' mobility, too, is top-notch! Yet, why is she dodging this desperately? Satin Ice was easy meat for Empress Dress previously!ÒÇì
ÒÇîIt's...not the same as before. The technique itself is several times stronger. See, as far as I know, the Icy Sneer is only able to freeze a spherical space about 3 meters in diameter at the focal point of her vision. But right now, she is freezing everything in sight. The power of her Noble Art is now on a whole new level. That she had been hiding such an ace up her sleeve...shocking. A Noble Art like this might just be able to freeze the Crimson Princess' flames!ÒÇì
Even as Muroto spoke thus, the chance Mikoto had been waiting for arrived.
Stella had been dodging with swift steps, but she was hard-pressed to continue dodging a Noble Art that could reach lightspeed.
A few statements about it's speed. I was wondering if this would be accepted as actual lightspeed, considering it shoots light at it's targets. And before anyone says it can't be lightspeed because Stella was dodging it, Satin Ice can only freeze things in Tsuruya's sight, and it was mentioned that Stella was staying out of sight. As soon as she didn't have anywhere else to go, she got hit. If this is accepted, it would apply only to Tsuruya's attack speed, and nothing else. What do you guys think?
Also, we might as well rename this thread to "Rakudai Kishi no Cavalry Stat Check", since we ended up talking about a lot of other characters, lol.
The magic she unleashed from her monocle -a rare sight among Devices- was one that could instantly reduce the temperature of a selected area within her vision to Absolute Zero.
"Satin Ice!"
A glaring light wrapped in a frigid, cutting shroud shot forth from the monocle.
This magic's speciality was that its effect triggered instantly upon her focusing on a target. In other words, this magic travelled at what was effectively the speed of light.
[...]
The light in Mikoto's eyes instantly turned to magic.
Along her line of sight, sword-like pillars of ice burst out along the ground as they crossed the space between her and Stella, as though she intended to freeze it all.
ÒÇîOnce again, Tsuruya goes on the offensive, launching attack after attack of Satin Ice at Stella, who for her part is staying out of her vision! The Crimson Princess' mobility, too, is top-notch! Yet, why is she dodging this desperately? Satin Ice was easy meat for Empress Dress previously!ÒÇì
ÒÇîIt's...not the same as before. The technique itself is several times stronger. See, as far as I know, the Icy Sneer is only able to freeze a spherical space about 3 meters in diameter at the focal point of her vision. But right now, she is freezing everything in sight. The power of her Noble Art is now on a whole new level. That she had been hiding such an ace up her sleeve...shocking. A Noble Art like this might just be able to freeze the Crimson Princess' flames!ÒÇì
Even as Muroto spoke thus, the chance Mikoto had been waiting for arrived.
Stella had been dodging with swift steps, but she was hard-pressed to continue dodging a Noble Art that could reach lightspeed.
A few statements about it's speed. I was wondering if this would be accepted as actual lightspeed, considering it shoots light at it's targets. And before anyone says it can't be lightspeed because Stella was dodging it, Satin Ice can only freeze things in Tsuruya's sight, and it was mentioned that Stella was staying out of sight. As soon as she didn't have anywhere else to go, she got hit. If this is accepted, it would apply only to Tsuruya's attack speed, and nothing else. What do you guys think?
Also, we might as well rename this thread to "Rakudai Kishi no Cavalry Stat Check", since we ended up talking about a lot of other characters, lol.
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Well, at that part where she was freezing everything in her sight, she was actually under Hiraga's mind control. The thing is, that mind control also gives a significant boost to the target's abilities. Normally, she can only freeze a spherical space of 3 meters in diameter at the focal point of her vision. So just staying out of that range is enough to dodge it.Alakabamm said:
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Can you show me the part where she dodge that?
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https://******************/project/index.php?title=Rakudai_Kishi_no_Eiyuutan:Volume6_Chapter_1
Part 11; is this what you were looking for?
On another note, I'm laughing my ass off at Ikki's technique which involves a relativistic-lightspeed forehead flick.
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Part 11; is this what you were looking for?
On another note, I'm laughing my ass off at Ikki's technique which involves a relativistic-lightspeed forehead flick.
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Wait, what?Gemmysaur said:
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@Gemmysaur Okay, but that was when he used Oikage. What does that have to do with a forehead flick?
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Oikage is the finger flick. Or atleast that's how I interpret it.
þÁéÒü«þºÿÕëú《Þ┐¢Õ¢▒》Final sword art: Tsuikage (lit. careless shadow) which I assume should be read as Oikage (lit. seeking shadow)
Þç¬ÕêåÒü«Õ¢▒ÒüîÞ┐¢ÒüäÒüñÒüïÒü¬ÒüäÒü╗Òü®Òü«ÒâçÒé│ÒâöÒâ│ÒÇéHis own shadow cannot keep up with his dekopin.
(Dekopin = forehead tap/poke/flick)
þÁéÒü«þºÿÕëú《Þ┐¢Õ¢▒》Final sword art: Tsuikage (lit. careless shadow) which I assume should be read as Oikage (lit. seeking shadow)
Þç¬ÕêåÒü«Õ¢▒ÒüîÞ┐¢ÒüäÒüñÒüïÒü¬ÒüäÒü╗Òü®Òü«ÒâçÒé│ÒâöÒâ│ÒÇéHis own shadow cannot keep up with his dekopin.
(Dekopin = forehead tap/poke/flick)
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So Stella was defeated by a finger flick?
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I would wait for the translation (pfft as if that's happening this year), but if it does turn out to be a freaking finger flick, we should change "Final Secret Sword" to Final Secret Forehead Tap, lol.
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Well, a sword hitting someone's head is too dangerous to perform anyway which is probably why he tapped Stella.NotEvenHuman said:
But yeah, let's wait for the translatation. Oh wait, wasn't there one already?
EDIT: Didn't notice how dirty that "fingered Stella" sounded.
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@Gemmysaur Illusionary Form is a thing, you know. Besides, he doesn't need to attack her head.
Nah, the translation is still at Vol. 6. All information from Vol. 7, 8 and 9 come from spoilers.
Good thing you changed that, lmao.
Nah, the translation is still at Vol. 6. All information from Vol. 7, 8 and 9 come from spoilers.
Good thing you changed that, lmao.
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Uh, what? Illusionary form is that thing that every Blazer can use, where their attacks don't damage the opponent but drain their stamina instead. That's what Ikki used in his fights against Stella and Ayase.Gemmysaur said:
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