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Kurogane Ikki (Rakudai Kishi no Cavalry/Eiyuutan) Stat Check Part 2

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So, i'm back. My computer wasn't working properly and my cellphone is slow as hell, so i couldn't access wikia this whole week until now. But we got a lot of updates. There's too much stuff to put in a single post, so i'm going to post them all separately. Once everyone has read the latest post, and any discussion about them is over, i will post the next one. Here's the first.


Reisen's Noble Arts, Deus Ex Machina:


A shadow was cast over the length of the Dome.

ÒÇîEh? Did the sky suddenly darken?ÒÇì

ÒÇîYou're kidding! I didn't bring an umbrella...wait, what's that?!ÒÇì

One after the other, people began exclaiming as they looked up at the darkened sky.

This was unavoidable, for the shadows which had darkened the skies had not been cast by clouds, but by rubble that were even now falling from on high, falling into the ring one by one as though attracted by some unnamed force.

ÒÇîWh, what is this?! All of a sudden, buildings, cars, even trains are starting to drop into the ring! Were they carried in by a tornado?!ÒÇì

No.

Indeed, the amount and content of the rubble was akin to that of a tornado had it swept through a town. But had it been a natural phenomenon, then such an unnatural occurrence as not having a single piece of rubble land in the stands but instead gathering in the ring would not have happened.

This was the work of man.

Specifically, the work of the pierot who laughed mockingly at the chaos sowed throughout the Dome - the work of none other than Reisen Hiraga.

Stretching his strings out beyond the Dome grounds, he had picked up the detritus along the coastline, scrapped cars and even unmanned trains, bringing them here into the ring.

For what purpose?

This would become clear soon enough.

ÒÇîWh, what?! The mountain of rubble that fell from the skies is are now merging! This shape...it's a human?! It's taking human shape! The mass of rubble is combining as though attracted by a magnet, and is forming the shape of a giant human! ÒÇì

That's…!

Ikki and Stella, from their respective places in the stands and in the ring, recognized this.

They had seen it before, on that stormy day in Okutama!

That Noble Art that used string to piece together inanimate objects into a giant string puppet-

"Deus Ex Machina. Fufu, it's like a giant robot. Cool, isn't it?"

Fully formed, the puppet of rubble stood fifty meters tall - this was Puppeteer Reisen Hiraga's ace.


So Reisen can build a mech. Here are some details and feats, for both the mech and Stella.


At some point in the formation of the rubble, he had entered therein. Indeed, this puppet that was controlled from within was just like a giant robot.


So its an actual mech. Cool. Now for the feats.


And so Reisen's fully-formed ace began its attack on Stella, wielding in the twisted combination of concrete and steel pipe that was its left arm eight train cars lashed together to form a whip, swinging it down upon the crimson knight in the ring.

That power of that blow was such that it did not merely stop at crushing a single human, smashing the ring itself and shaking the Dome to its very foundations.

ÒÇîToo strong! The ring is shattered by the train-whip of Deus Ex Machina! One quarter of it has been completely blown away, raising an impressive dust cloud! Is Stella alright?! ÒÇì

She couldn't be.

Being made of stainless steel, the train cars were somewhat lighter - but they nonetheless weighed in the tons.

One lash from such a whip would reduce a human to unrecognizable atoms.

However-

ÒÇîCertainly, I would be done for if that were to hit me. But that whip of your puppet's is dull. It won't hit me at all!ÒÇì

At that moment, a bolt of red light pierced through the smoke screen of dust - none other than Stella Vermillion, the knight clad in flames.

She had evaded the train-whip with ease, and riding the dust cloud created by the impact she landed with one great leap upon the right arm of the train-wielding Deus Ex Machina, dashing upwards towards its shoulder in one go-

-and in one strike she cleaved off its head, an amalgamation of a heavy truck core and assorted surrounding detritus.

Stricken from its roots, the head plummeted to the ground, raising a din of clanking metal as it splintered like glass - truck, traffic light, empty propane gas cylinders and all.

Stella landed amid the rubble as they were pathetically strewn about.


So we have more AP and Durability feats for Stella coming up later. We also have some things for Tsuruya and her "lightspeed" Noble Art, but that's for another post.
 
Durability?

Didnt said that she dodged?

And... can we take literally the "reduce a human to unrecognizable atoms." part?
 
KaenDragneel123 said:
Durability?
Didnt said that she dodged?

And... can we take literally the "reduce a human to unrecognizable atoms." part?
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She dodged that attack, yes, but the fight isn't over yet.

That seems like hyperbole to me, especially considering what happens later on the fight.
 
NotEvenHuman said:
She dodged that attack, yes, but the fight isn't over yet.

That seems like hyperbole to me, especially considering what happens later on the fight.
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Without direct material, dont tell me about feats

Also, she can just survive to attacks different or even weaker than that one
 
KaenDragneel123 said:
How we can find a volume without scans or measurements?
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So, after a quick search and some internet problems, i found the location of the SSSAT. Here:


On a piece of reclaimed coastal land far from the center of Osaka stood a collection of unpopulated buildings. During a period of urban development some decades ago, this area was heavily built up, but the essential attraction of enterprises was unsuccessful and tenants did not move in. As a result, any new development was abandoned, with those that had been built left as relics of the failure.

Yet, that 'ghost town' where not a soul would dwell normally was brimming with life, filled with rows of stalls and the heavenward-reaching clamor of people gathered from all over the Japanese Isles.

Why were these people gathered there? There was only one reason. Two days from now―the annual student knight event, the Seven Stars Sword-Art Festival, would be held in this ghost town's Bay Dome.


You can find the size of the Osaka Dome here. This shouldn't be hard to calc.
 
NotEvenHuman said:
So, after a quick search and some internet problems, i found the location of the SSSAT. Here:


On a piece of reclaimed coastal land far from the center of Osaka stood a collection of unpopulated buildings. During a period of urban development some decades ago, this area was heavily built up, but the essential attraction of enterprises was unsuccessful and tenants did not move in. As a result, any new development was abandoned, with those that had been built left as relics of the failure.

Yet, that 'ghost town' where not a soul would dwell normally was brimming with life, filled with rows of stalls and the heavenward-reaching clamor of people gathered from all over the Japanese Isles.

Why were these people gathered there? There was only one reason. Two days from now―the annual student knight event, the Seven Stars Sword-Art Festival, would be held in this ghost town's Bay Dome.


You can find the size of the Osaka Dome here. This shouldn't be hard to calc.
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they destroyed the arena or the entire dome?
 
That is going to be rather hard to calculate due to the arena being rather hollow with different objects contained inside; that feat you described should be around high end of building to city block level however, considering the amount of material destroyed.
 
Crazystarf said:
That is going to be rather hard to calculate due to the arena being rather hollow with different objects contained inside; that feat you described should be around high end of building to city block level however, considering the amount of material destroyed.
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Yeah, i think it should be around City Block. This is also a durability feat for Stella, since she tanks a lot of attacks from Deus Ex Machina later on the fight.
 
If she uses her magic as a shield... we cannot use the same Logic that we use with The Force in Star Wars?
 
I am still sticking by my statement that Stella is around City Block level based on where she tanked Deus Ex's attacks.

That glowing sword feat may end up being Town level though, depending on the temperature of the sword; doesn't a laser go up to temperatures over tens of thousands or something?
 
Crazystarf said:
doesn't a laser go up to temperatures over tens of thousands or something?
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In real life, technically, there is no heat for a laser since it's photons and not matter.

Though a laser's effective temperature may vary. Lasers routinely cut steel which boils at 3000degC and tungsten at 5500+degC.

The biggest laser in the real world in Livermore, California, which when they dumped 1 megajoule of energy over a target a few mm away for a few nanoseconds, reached 111,000,000+degC to induce nuclear fusion in a frozen hydrogen pellet.
 
I still thinking that we can calc the striking feat with "Human Atomization" too.

And I leave an image about temperature of flames in a comment @Crazystarf
 
Crazystarf said:
Should I make a low and high end for this feat then? One for 5500, one for 111,000,000+?
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Considering how the original was SO rejected... If you change the method, it could be fine
 
So, since we're on the subject, we got the size of the arena on the latest update. Its 100 meters wide, just like the previous one. That should make Reisen's feat pretty easy to calculate. As for Stella being Town level, Stella has a brand new Noble Art, and as it turns out...

That warcry, that power from earlier had enveloped the entire ring. If she had used it from the start, the match would have ended right there and then. In other words, had she so wished, she had the ability to one-sidedly end the match. She did not do so, however, and there was a single reason as to why: Bahamut Soul was too powerful.

Its area-of-effect was not limited to the 100-metre-wide ring. It had the power to consume the whole Bay Dome, and even the surrounding ghost town. Such a thing should not have been used even in Illusory Form, since Illusory Form was only harmless to humans, but the uncontrollable heat from that technique would have completely destroyed the surroundings.


Town level Stella CONFIRMED.
 
Lovely, now if we could just calculate Ouma's feat where he slashes the ground and makes a giant gaping slash in the ground (possibly an insane feat).
 
KaenDragneel123 said:
Well... we can say that she's Town Level... Also, she is stronger than Shizuku
So is consistent
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Oh, right. About Shizuku. There's just no way in hell that she is MCB. Her only MCB feats are freezing the students (done off-screen, so we don't know how exactly she froze them) and freezing and then vaporizing the floor of the arena. Then we have this. So yeah, freezing stuff and vaporizing her ice is only due to her Magic Control. She can't use it for direct damage.
 
Crazystarf said:
Lovely, now if we could just calculate Ouma's feat where he slashes the ground and makes a giant gaping slash in the ground (possibly an insane feat).
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If you have... any measurements...
 
NotEvenHuman said:
So yeah, freezing stuff and vaporizing her ice is only due to her Magic Control. She can't use it for direct damage.
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then

Go

Go, and EVERY magic users at Unknown

That's what "your logic" tell me
 
KaenDragneel123 said:
Crazystarf said:
Lovely, now if we could just calculate Ouma's feat where he slashes the ground and makes a giant gaping slash in the ground (possibly an insane feat).
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If you have... any measurements...
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We would have to wait until we got Hagun's size, but it would probably be around MCB, seeing as Ouma destroyed every single training arena, and we know Hagun has at least 15 arenas.
 
So, just putting this out here, but Vol. 10 was announced for April 14, which is actually much earlier than i expected. Here are some more details. I have to say, i haven't been this hyped for a while, even though the translation is still in Vol. 6, and the speed of the translations is getting slower each volume. I just needed to say this here, gotta share the hype. Now, back on topic....

@KaenDragneel Actually, the height of the arenas should be a around 100 meters too, scaling from Stella's KS. Regarding Shizuku, lol no. Other mages like Ouma and Stella have actual MCB/CB attacks that can deal damage, unlike Shizuku. When it's been explicitly stated that Shizuku can do things like freezing large spaces and vaporizing her ice due to her Magic Control, and that it can't be used to deal direct damage, then Shizuku freezing stuff shouldn't be used to determine her AP. We should use actual AP feats for that.
 
Actually, I'm close to delete the profiles

"Actually, the height of the arenas should be a around 100 meters too, scaling from Stella's KS."

And... What king of reasoning is that?!
 
"Pierce the blue sky, blaze of purgatory."

The moment Stella pointed her L├ªvateinn up at the air, the flames covering the sword burned with more fury and heat―and soon the sword lost its form, taking the shape of a pillar of light that melted the arena's domed roof.

ÒÇîW-What is thiiiiis!!!ÒÇì

ÒÇîThis is too insane! Is she still human!?ÒÇì

The blade that easily extended a hundred meters upward was shining with the sun's own brilliance, an unopposable scarlet conflagration. For this A-Rank knight, the Crimson Princess, it was her strongest Noble Art. Stella no longer intended to fight with a sword. She would no longer be overconfident. Ikki was a swordsman who far surpassed her, and because she admitted that, she chose to end this battle


This is Stella using Kalsariteo Salamandra for the first time in the novels. This is the manga's version of the same scene. As you can see, Kalsariteo Salamandra extends a little bit over the top of the roof, but that's also not the tallest point in the arena, since its shaped like a dome. That's the reasoning called "scaling". KS = Kalsariteo Salamandra, in case that's what confused you. Also, can i know why you're thinking of deleting the profiles?
 
LordAizenSama said:
KaenDragneel123 said:
Actually, I'm close to delete the profiles
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You will be doing nothing of the sort, and it will result in a swift ban.
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It was an expression

I mean, the only calc we have, and he say is wrong (and again, if that's his logic, then all the magic users should be at Unknown)
 
NotEvenHuman said:
"Pierce the blue sky, blaze of purgatory."

The moment Stella pointed her L├ªvateinn up at the air, the flames covering the sword burned with more fury and heat―and soon the sword lost its form, taking the shape of a pillar of light that melted the arena's domed roof.

ÒÇîW-What is thiiiiis!!!ÒÇì

ÒÇîThis is too insane! Is she still human!?ÒÇì

The blade that easily extended a hundred meters upward was shining with the sun's own brilliance, an unopposable scarlet conflagration. For this A-Rank knight, the Crimson Princess, it was her strongest Noble Art. Stella no longer intended to fight with a sword. She would no longer be overconfident. Ikki was a swordsman who far surpassed her, and because she admitted that, she chose to end this battle


This is Stella using Kalsariteo Salamandra for the first time in the novels. This is the manga's version of the same scene. As you can see, Kalsariteo Salamandra extends a little bit over the top of the roof, but that's also not the tallest point in the arena, since its shaped like a dome. That's the reasoning called "scaling". KS = Kalsariteo Salamandra, in case that's what confused you. Also, can i know why you're thinking of deleting the profiles?
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I'll put this in simples words:

KS Height >> Dome Height (kind of obvious) >>>>>> Arena/Ring Height
 
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