Kung Fu Panda : Paws of Destiny Revisions ( Possible Massive Upgrade for High-End Top - God tiers )

[Antvasima]

Isn't it more like a detonation sequence? Igniting the chi similar to throwing a matchstick into a nitroglycerine tank?

 

[JJSliderman]

Pretty sure, no. Likely is just an after effect of the Finger Hold expending energy to send the target to the Spirit World, which is essentially killing them. Something similar happens in the first movie.

 

[GyroNutz]

Also worth mentioning that Po can tank being in the epicentre of his wuxi finger hold vs Tai Lung and somewhat vs Kai too, so Po's strength is generally comparable to the wuxi finger hold technique.

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

So basically, the status of the revision is:

3A isn't too baseless after all, but it isn't 100% sure and we don't know who it scales to besides PO and Jindiao

Even if 3A is rejected. There is still a possibility for Tier 6 and 7 for the top tiers like Po and Jindiao.

 

[JJSliderman]

Tier 7-6, likely high Tier 4 if 3-A doesn't happen. Seeing as characters could hurt Po in Legends of Awesomeness and he was already capable of tanking the tier 7-6 power shockwave of the Wu-Xi finger hold in the first movie, on top of non-chi augmented characters overpowering a weakened Sun Wukong who created a dream dimension, and the ending where the Wellspring's power goes into everybody in China and possibly the world, there could potentially be changes for everyone else, but maybe that could be saved for a future thread.

 

[JJSliderman]

This has nothing to do with anything, but I found out the Kronk page on here was maybe copied from a page that I did on another wiki. It's just funny to me.

 

[Antvasima]

I have started to watch the Paws of Destiny series again. I am currently on episode #8. Let's see if I will notice anything useful.

If nothing else, the turtle deflecting a large meteorite should be calculated by our calc group. Can somebody submit good screencaptures for them?

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

Also the pocket-dimension containing a sun created by Sun Wukong should be analyzed as that is very scalable to possibly the Post-KFP3 Folks, and definitely the God-Tiers (Those comparable to the Wellspring) as SUn Wukong was stomped once something comparable to the wellspring was used against a much stronger Sun Wukong.

 

[JJSliderman]

I have started to watch the Paws of Destiny series again. I am currently on episode #8. Let's see if I will notice anything useful.

If nothing else, the turtle deflecting a large meteorite should be calculated by our calc group. Can somebody submit good screencaptures for them?

No one really calced it because it was deemed unusable due to "art style" reasons. Given that Black Tortoise went out of his way to make a shield bigger than the Earth to block it, it was probably human-extinction levels of power.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay, what is the minimum for human extinction? 6-A?

 

[GyroNutz]

That sounds about right

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. I suppose that should probably be fine then.

 

[JJSliderman]

High 6-B to 6-A, I guess.

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

I know the explosion MCU Ultron was going to make by dropping Sokovia onto earth and causing human extinction was High 6-A.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. Would a lesser explosion be sufficient, or was that calculated as a minimum? It is probably best to ask the calc group about handling this.

 

[JJSliderman]

I heard from the thread on E. Honda that human extinction meteors are High 6-B.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. Thanks. It is probably best to ask a few calc group members to comment here about it though: VS Battles Staff

 

[JJSliderman]

So, how's this progressing?

 

[GyroNutz]

We'll probably need a calc group member to confirm both if the 6-A/High 6-B assumptions are usable, and if the 4-A 'all light in the universe' assumption is usable.

 

[Antvasima]

You can ask a few to comment here if you wish.

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

But as of now, can we add in the Low 6-B AP for at least Po because we got a proper calc for that

 

[GyroNutz]

Are we adding on to Po's profile in a 'Paws of Destiny' key(s), or are we making a seperate PoD profile?

 

[Antvasima]

It may be best with a separate profile, linked via a tabber at the top of the original page.

 

[GyroNutz]

Alright, I've already created a profile for PoD Po in a blog, so all we need to do is finalise his statistics for his dragon form.

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

So... Where is his base going to be ? Is it scaling to the wuxi finger hold or to Sun Wukong ?

 

[GyroNutz]

Before the wellspring amp, just upscaling from KFP3 and the fact he can harm people who can harm him with physical strikes.

Post wellspring amp, probably wuxi finger hold. I don't remember Sun Wukong having any good feats except for when he was giant

 

[JJSliderman]

Sun Wukong has dimension creation stuff, with a moon and maybe a star. But it happened in a dream, although his powers still work in the real world So take that as you will.

 

[JJSliderman]

Wu-Xi Finger hold for base is probably fine, although chi augmentation would obviously make Po much stronger. I think base durability should probably be the same as the enemies he fights with chi, I don't think Po gets more durable when using chi.

 

[GyroNutz]

What ability do you have if you can solidify lava?

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

Alright, I've already created a profile for PoD Po in a blog, so all we need to do is finalise his statistics for his dragon form.

You did? can you please show it to us?

 

[GyroNutz]

Sure.

User blog:GyroNutz/KFP Paws of Destiny Sandbox

 

[Antvasima]

It doesn't look so bad, although it would be preferable to scale from a calculation of the meteorite.

 

[GyroNutz]

TBD = to be decided. That's the key that either scales to Black Tortoise's feat or the several wellspring statements, whether that be 4-A or High 3-A.

 

[Antvasima]

I think that an description similar to "At least [The tier required to repell the meteorite], possibly far higher (The wellspring was claimed to have infinite power)" seems best.

 

[GyroNutz]

Any reason in particular that you think the meteorite feat should be used over the wellspring statements?

 

[Antvasima]

Infinite power seems like an exaggeration, given the general scale of the series, so a "possibly" rating should preferably be used based on claims alone, but I haven't finished watching the series yet. The last I saw, Po was travelling with the bunny to find the kids.

 

[GyroNutz]

Tier 6 stuff is already well off the general scale of the series, given that Kai the Collector is considered a top tier + unstoppable threat. Point is, these are special amps that don't scale to anyone lower in the verse, from a source that is rightfully the most powerful source of chi in the universe. The wellspring statements should only not be used if we discredit them imo.

Also if infinite power is a stretch, what about the wellspring being the source of all light in the universe?

 

[Antvasima]

Which characters would scale to High 3-A and under what circumstances?

 

[GyroNutz]

Jindiao after absorbing the entirety of the wellspring.

Po with his hero's chi dragon form, only accessible in the spirit realm which brings out your true self.

The four panda kids after receiving the chi of the four original constellations. Note that this amp is probably either a temporary one or only works in the spirit realm, since they were unable to harm Jindiao after leaving the Spirit Realm.

 

[JJSliderman]

Tbh, I feel Po and the panda kids outside the Spirit World should scale to some degree, given that they fought the White Bone Demon amped by the Wellspring. Jindiao was also visibly harmed by the chi from the Pandas outside the Spirit World.