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The Wellspring
Now, the movie made it seem like this was something that came from within, and that's partially true. However, Paws of Destiny retconned it so that the Pandas aren't just teachers of chi, they're guardians of a mystical artifact called the Wellspring, which was hidden in a peach statue. This Wellspring gave them access to their chi, and when it was sealed away, that's what caused them to lose their chi, exemplified by how the unlocking of the Wellspring gave them back their chi. The Wellspring is also stated numerous times to be the source of all chi in the universe:
Episode 1, 13:09
and in this universe chi is basically the energy that makes up all living things. This will be important for later.
The Spirit Realm
So, in Kung Fu Panda, there's two different locations of interest. There's the mortal world, which is where most of the series takes place, and then there's the Spirit World, an ethereal dimension focused on heavily in this series and in the 3rd movie. Remember Tai Lung and the Wu-Xi Finger Hold? Yeah, that sent him here. So, what is the spirit world?
Well, according to White Tiger in Episode 12, 18:11, "The Spirit World is defined by those within it. It has no true borders. He could be anywhere" (He referring to Jiandiao).
So, yes, the Spirit World is infinite in size. Again, this will be important for later. Also, fun fact, in development it was known as "The Celestial Realm" and contained a bunch of stars and galaxies and shit. Again, this is just in development, but I figured it was worth noting.
The Eternal Chord/Anti Chord
So, might as well talk about the feats.
Most of the stuff is something you could probably guess already. The CB calc of Kai shattering rock, the Large Building calc of Tai Lung striking Po into the earth, the Hypersonic calc due to Po running fast enough to ablate his hands, and Subsonic+ to Supersonic stuff from dodging cannonballs. So I might as well talk about some lesser known stuff.
First off is this post I made about Crane, which mainly applies to the mid tiers (i.e characters who don't have god chi). Mainly the Furious Five, Shifu, Fenghuang, Junjie, Temutai, Hundun, Master Chao, and a lot of the other characters from the show, along with Kai being above said mid-tiers:
Crane on an Outlier?Well I was watching the Kung Fu Panda TV show recently and something...interesting, caught my eye.So, the feat is around 19:24. Po gets knocked off Crane's back and Crane flies all the way from the mountains to the valley to catch him, all in about two seconds. So how fast is it? Idk. But I'll give it a shot.
Now, the show never makes it clear where, but the Valley of Peace is based off the Lijiang River Valley. The mountains Crane was in are never specified, but since they are specifically referred to as the Northern Mountains, and they aren't that high above the ground, we'll assume it to be Mount Wutai, the highest mountain in Northern China.
Mount Wutai is about 3058 meters off the ground, and the distance between the Li River Valley in Guilin and Mount Wutai is 1930 km. Using the Pythagorean theorem, we find the distance Crane flew to be about 1930002.42263 m. The speed of sound in freezing air is 331 m/s, while in normal air it's 346 m/s. To save time, I'll just assume half
Black Tortoise Defends the Planet
Higher yield meteors could also yield greater results in the Continent to Multi-Continent Range, or it could just be straight up planet busting since, again, the shield that blocked it is bigger than the planet.
With that said, this is anywhere from Country to Planet Level. Scales to Bao, since he was the one blessed with Black Tortoises' chi, the other Panda Constellation warriors since their chi should be on par with Black Tortoises', Po since he's the Dragon Master and one of the strongest Kung Fu masters around, and Jiandiao at full power since he was superior to all four Constellation Warriors individually.
Speaking of the Constellation Warriors, I'm not entirely sure where they should be at. Given their name, and the fact that there are actual constellations that appear when their power is brought forth and inherited by the Pandas, that possibly means they have the power of the stars themselves. However, this is potentially just a visual effect. It should be noted, however, that they were the ones who sealed the Wellspring's power to begin with, so that could mean something.
Episode 1, 9:55
However, nothing outright confirms this and it's possible they're just names and references to Chinese folklore. I guess you could just chalk it down as "At least Country Level, likely Planet Level, possibly Multi-Solar System Level".
Po Transforms the Spirit World
Remember how I talked about the Spirit World being infinite in size? Well...
At this moment, Po, after absorbing the chi of all the Pandas, transformed into his Master of Chi form and warped the entire Spirit Realm as far as we can see into a golden realm. This isn't just a cosmetic thing either:
Jindiao absorbs the Wellspring
Episode 12, 1:34, "The Wellspring is open! Under my Control!"
What this means is that Jindiao, in his dragon form, has the power of all the chi in the universe, which means the power of all living matter in the universe. Meaning that every living thing in the ENTIRE UNIVERSE had its energy transferred to Jindiao. Why is this important?
Blue Dragon also says at 8:30 in Episode 12 that "The Spirit Realm is a place of great power, and it would take an even greater power to find a way out." After that, Black Tortoise states that with the power Jindiao now wielded after absorbing the Wellspring, he could perform that task, after saying it had never been done before, meaning Kai didn't get enough "power" to do it. This also makes sense considering that Jindiao physically punched a hole in the realm with fire blasts rather than making a standard portal, showing he has to physically overpower the Spirit Realm's energy to make the portal, especially when combined with the statements about the Wellspring's energy being limitless, endless, the source of all chi and light in the universe, etc. More justification for High Universe level, at least.
Dragon Po goes fast
(Episode 12, 20:36)
Now, since Po knows where Jindiao is, he can head straight for him, so none of that searching the entire universe stuff like Megaman.EXE did. No, instead we're going to focus on something else:
The legitimacy of this statement is up for debate, but this would effectively mean Po was zipping around looking for Jindiao in 0 time, which would equate to infinite speed for Po in the Spirit Realm. However, if you don't buy the idea of 0 time in the Spirit World, let's just gauge a rough estimate. Now, we don't exactly know how far away the beach where Po starts is compared to where Jindiao is, but generally speaking the temple where Po had his battle with Kai seems to be a central location in the Spirit World. So let's just assume the distance Po traveled is 1/4 of the diameter of the universe, or 23 billion, 250 million light years. Since Po is in a hurry to stop Jindiao, we'll assume a five minute timeframe. Plugging this in gets 2.4456618e+15 c as an example number, Beyond Massively Faster than Light. Again, this number is probably not accurate, seeing as the perspective of the Spirit World is wacky, it has infinite size, and it has no concept of time. That said, if it's not infinite speed, it should at least be some degree of MFTL+ travel seeing as Po is physically flying and not just teleporting.
Building Level and Subsonic+ Shen/Tai Lung tier
Hypersonic and Building Level Furious Five/Shifu Tier
Country-Planet, possibly High Universal for the entire Panda Village combined
Country-Planet, possibly MSS Constellation Warriors, likely High Universal, with Hypersonic to possibly MHS+ speed, maybe far higher (only in the Spirit World)
Country-Planet, likely Universal Po and Jindiao, possibly Oogway, with Hypersonic to possibly MHS+ speed, maybe far higher (only in the Spirit World)
Agree: @Toby020 @Bernkastelll @Doggo DarkDragonMedeus
Disagree:
Neutral: @Tarang123
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