Kid Goku upgrade from 9-A to 8-C

[Dalesean027]

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[Mr.Cinos15]

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Ooooooh boy, if this is accepted, then High 8-C is consistent as hell! And nice LS

 

[Mr.Cinos15]

I mean krillin at least makes weighted casual piccolo think taking over the world will be harder than he thought so props to him but that aside I'VE CALCULATED ANOTHER HIGH 8-C FEAT and it scales to Tao Pai Pai and Goku, we also got some more class K consistency

Ah well. At least Roshi's hype exists.

 

[Mr.Cinos15]

What's great about that feat is that it's casual as hell, which is consistent with him casually killing General Blue, who scales to a similar value to this.

We just can't stop winning!! Now to wait and see if it's accepted.

 

[Dalesean027]

Ooooooh boy, if this is accepted, then High 8-C is consistent as hell! And nice LS

Yup Tao's casual pillar throw is less than 1x away from the explosion that made Goku unconscious from my calc and as you said is above the value tanked by General Blue so it's all pretty consistent in that range

 

[Dalesean027]

We'll need Vizer to definitely redo the entire OP after this one lol

 

[Dalesean027]

Bump

 

[Dalesean027]

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This calc is accepted now btw

 

[Dalesean027]

Okiedokieee thanks well as per this thread as well now being concluded Early DB goku and Yamcha scale to Subsonic+

but that aside I have a solid accepted 8-C calc for 21st Budokai Goku as you can see here, it comes out to 0.40818802848 Tons of TNT (Building level) which would align with him growing stronger post training with Roshi and it gives a solid value above the 0.37 Ton downscale value from the great ape form

There's also this Supersonic support feat I've got for 21st Budokai Goku that scales out to 789.24791m/s


this should affect all relevant characters in this CRT who scale to 21st Budokai Goku already and will be bumped up to 8-C anyways. I'd appreciate hearing staffs opinions on the 8-C stuff now that there's this additional evidence also for the fact that the pilag gang scales above Pilaf Saga goku's current 9-A value via another one of my calcs posted here

Also now

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With this accepted with a 4.014605827390057335 Tons of TNT (Large Building level) values we can pretty consistently rate Goku post Roshi training during the 21st Budokai at Large Building level going into the Early Red Ribbon Saga pre-general Blue which should again be a smaller increase than the one from he his Roshi training

 

[Dalesean027]

From what I can remember, Goku's growth during this time period was: Post Roshi Training > Regrowing his tail > Korin Training.

Since Tail Goku is portrayed as ~ to General Blue and his feat has a High 8-C end, I think it likely goes like this.

Post Korin Training Goku >> Mercenary Tao >>> General Blue (3.72 Tons dura feat) ~ Tail Grown Goku (has his own dura feat with 4.05 Tons and 0.408 Ton ends) > Post Roshi Training Goku.

Well both ends are accepted for my 8-C calc so we could go with the 4.05672571568 Tons of TNT (Large Building level) end if that's more consistent

Note this as well

 

[Propellus]

If the calcs are accepted, then I guess the upgrades are fine

 

[Dalesean027]

If the calcs are accepted, then I guess the upgrades are fine

Yep all of my calcs are accepted and thanks for your quick input it's very much appreciated

 

[Vizer04]

Pilaf Saga Goku: 0.37 Tons of TNT

21st Budokai Goku: 3.72 Tons of TNT

General Blue Saga: 3.72 Tons of TNT

Tao Pai Pai Saga: 4 Tons of TNT

22nd Budokai Goku: 29.6 Exatons of TNT

 

[Dalesean027]

3.72 Tons of TNT

This would be 4.05 Tons for Goku's own feat

 

[Vizer04]

This would be 4.01 Tons for Goku

But Goku got stronger between General Blue and Tao, right?

 

[Dalesean027]

But Goku got stronger between General Blue and Tao, right?

Tao's 4 ton pillar feat was extremely casual while Goku's knocked him out but left him unscathed so there's no inconsistencies, this would still put Goku in the same Ballpark as Blue who is tanked his 3.7 Ton feat there's no inconsistencies since Goku>Blue when they fought albeit they were still comparable and Tao is casually above them by far even while casually doing s feat the other two had previously clocked out at

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Another High 8-C calc us looking good.

 

[Dalesean027]

Now we just need damage to give input to finalize this and see any concerns and it can be applied

 

[Dalesean027]

Bump

 

[Dalesean027]

Bump

 

[Dalesean027]

Bump... can someone ping damage

 

[Dalesean027]

Last bump if damage doesn't give his thoughts I'll just apply the changes since we have two staff approvals

 

[Dalesean027]

Kay I'll apply these tomorrow

 

[Vizer04]

Bump

 

[Dalesean027]

been busy I actually don't have time for this atm I'll haev to apply it another time

 

[Vizer04]

Bump

 

[Vizer04]

Bump

 

[Vizer04]

Bump

 

[Dalesean027]

We have staff approval we can apply this

 

[Dalesean027]

I'll just apply this whenever I can

Note this as well

Tao's 4 ton pillar feat was extremely casual while Goku's knocked him out but left him unscathed so there's no inconsistencies, this would still put Goku in the same Ballpark as Blue who is tanked his 3.7 Ton feat there's no inconsistencies since Goku>Blue when they fought albeit they were still comparable and Tao is casually above them by far even while casually doing s feat the other two had previously clocked out at

This is the scaling that's accepted and these are the relevant calcs

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[Dalesean027]

all changes have been applied this can be closed

 

[Mr.Cinos15]

Pilaf Saga Goku is still 9-A.

 

[Dalesean027]

Pilaf Saga Goku is still 9-A.

Calc still needs to be accepted, damage never looked at it

 

[Mr.Cinos15]

Wasn't 8-C also based off of the 1/10 of Oozaru scaling?

 

[Dalesean027]

Wasn't 8-C also based off of the 1/10 of Oozaru scaling?

Not anymore we have calcs to support high 8-C that's what the upgrades are

I'll just apply this whenever I can

This is the scaling that's accepted and these are the relevant calcs

Goku survives a plane crash

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[Mr.Cinos15]

Not anymore we have calcs to support high 8-C that's what the upgrades are

But because Goku's Oozaru in the Pilaf Saga scales to the High 8-C value, then wouldn't Pilaf Saga base Goku scale to 1/10 of that because of the multiplier? 8-C Pilaf Saga characters aren't based on calcs.

 

[Mr.Cinos15]

Also, 21st Budokai Oozaru Goku should scale to 8-B because of the multiplier.

 

[Dalesean027]

Also, 21st Budokai Oozaru Goku should scale to 8-B because of the multiplier.

But because Goku's Oozaru in the Pilaf Saga scales to the High 8-C value, then wouldn't Pilaf Saga base Goku scale to 1/10 of that because of the multiplier? 8-C Pilaf Saga characters aren't based on calcs.

Oh shit huh I didn't think about that part of it

 

[Saintdhqhdy]

I think you mean outer

 

[Dalesean027]

I think you mean outer

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