8-B Kid Goku upgrade

[Hagane_no_Saiyajin]

an interpretation that can't be proven within the contexts of the story

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How much more context do you need?

 

[Ednaxel2]

How much more context do you need?

That is is explicitly 6x. The gap between Tao and Goku pre-Korin training being around 3x would be enough already

 

[Damage3245]

How much more context do you need?

Didn't we just have this conversation?

Check our Multiplier standards. We can't reason out multipliers from things like that.

 

[Hagane_no_Saiyajin]

Check our Multiplier standards. We can't reason out multipliers from things like that.

I keep looking at it and I just keep getting confused and worry that my intelligence is getting attacked, let's say we were able to (somehow) count all the 300 punches All Might made on Nomu on these panels and then he said "In my heyday, 5 of those punches would've been enough," would that invalidate the 60x multiplier?

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

We legit have a guidebook that tells us that Goku doubled his power

 

[Nullflowerblush]

Could you do that in a My Hero thread, please?
Or, a separate upgrade thread? The conclusions were already made.

 

[Damage3245]

I keep looking at it and I just keep getting confused and worry that my intelligence is getting attacked, let's say we were able to (somehow) count all the 300 punches All Might made on Nomu on these panels and then he said "In my heyday, 5 of those punches would've been enough," would that invalidate the 60x multiplier?

I don't see the point of getting into My Hero Academia's multiplier here.

 

[Hagane_no_Saiyajin]

I don't see the point of getting into My Hero Academia's multiplier here.

It's really a rather similar case between the two, like how it would take All Might 5 punches in his prime but 300 punches in his weakened state, it took Tao one strike to overpower a pre-training Goku, but it took at least 6 strikes to get a post-training Goku to say that it hurt. So a 60x multiplier for All Might and an at least 6x multiplier for Goku. Is it that hard to see here?

 

[Ednaxel2]

It's really a rather similar case between the two, like how it would take All Might 5 punches in his prime but 300 punches in his weakened state, it took Tao one strike to overpower a pre-training Goku, but it took at least 6 strikes to get a post-training Goku to say that it hurt. So a 60x multiplier for All Might and an at least 6x multiplier for Goku. Is it that hard to see here?

Punches irl just don't work like that, and with a guide book directly addressing a 2x multiplier here, I don't see why we should continue this

a guy irl who's 2x that of a regular person can take out a regular person with just a punch in the face, but anyone on his level of physicalities can tank way more than just two punches from him

 

[Hagane_no_Saiyajin]

Punches irl just don't work like that

Dragon Ball isn't irl though, and if we can use punches to justify the multiplier for one verse, I don't see why we can't do the same for another

 

[Ednaxel2]

Dragon Ball isn't irl though

Like all verses, it goes by the rules of regular physics except certain things that get contradicted, this really specific thing you're proposing that could work is just make believe

and if we can use punches to justify the multiplier for one verse, I don't see why we can't do the same for another

Then the mha one is just flawed as well, actually use an example in Dragon Ball for your arguments

 

[Hagane_no_Saiyajin]

Then the mha one is just flawed as well, actually use an example in Dragon Ball for your arguments

Pre-Training:



Post-Training:

 

[Ednaxel2]

Pre-Training:



Post-Training:

Is this a multiply we currently use? Or is it one that goes against the multiplier page?

And again, the guidebooks straight up debunk what you are proposing

 

[Hagane_no_Saiyajin]

Is this a multiply we currently use? Or is it one that goes against the multiplier page?

And again, the guidebooks straight up debunk what you are proposing

Generally explicit feats > statements, and seeing that Goku taking at least 6 strikes from Tao in quick is a much more substaintial feat for how much stronger Goku had gotten than just going by guidebooks saying "doubles your power".

And I'm kindly asking that we please don't have any double standards here, I could read the Multipliers page a hundred times, and I'd still be no closer to understanding what its official sounding gobbledygook it's trying to say to me, like does it have to be a statement? I use the All Might example because like with Goku and Tao it involves strikes, and if we were able to count the 300 strikes All Might made on Nomu over All Might simply stating it was 300 strikes would that mean that the 60 times multiplier is invalid?

 

[Nullflowerblush]

Can this thread be closed? I'll just ask for the Goku page to be opened later to apply the upgrades.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Can this thread be closed? I'll just ask for the Goku page to be opened later to apply the upgrades.

Very well.