Kaguya vs Isshiki

[Purgy]

he said he can shrink any non living thing as he said, or simply teleport it. again we have the fact that he will simply stomp her in any form of battle

i mean he will not be looking as she casts it, and she needs time for that so he will not be looking at her as she is doing that

well speed wise it is like this
isshiki = baryon mode nardo >>>>>>>>>>>>> New era naruto and sasuke >= New era parts

It's an NLF to say he can shrink something that big, you need to prove it. He doesn't stomp her though as we've already gone over, if anything, Kaguya stomps because Isshiki can't do anything.

That's not how Infinite Tsukuyomi works, it doesn't matter if he closes his eyes or looks away.

Not sure that's accurate, Naruto's profile says he was faster than Isshiki until Baryon Naruto started getting weaker. And adding a bunch of ">" doesn't mean anything.

 

[Sus]

is this round 1 or 2 i wasn't watching

 

[PrinceofPein]

It's an NLF to say he can shrink something that big, you need to prove it. He doesn't stomp her though as we've already gone over, if anything, Kaguya stomps because Isshiki can't do anything.

he has higher AP, Dura and speed, yes he stomps but just cant kill her

That's not how Infinite Tsukuyomi works, it doesn't matter if he closes his eyes or looks away.

he is not going to watch as she flies up towards the moon to cast it, it is simple man

Not sure that's accurate, Naruto's profile says he was faster than Isshiki until Baryon Naruto started getting weaker. And adding a bunch of ">" doesn't mean anything.

it needs to be updated then, anyway it does not matter, sasuke could not keep up or perceive isshiki attacks, new era sasiuke >= war arc sasuke = kaguya/
kaguya will be getting blitzed either way

 

[KINGRDB]

he said he can shrink any non living thing as he said, or simply teleport it. again we have the fact that he will simply stomp her in any form of battle

i mean he will not be looking as she casts it, and she needs time for that so he will not be looking at her as she is doing that

well speed wise it is like this
isshiki = baryon mode nardo >>>>>>>>>>>>> New era naruto and sasuke >= New era parts

In the anime flashback we saw that Kaguya activated the Infinite Tsukuyomi in seconds (ep 460) so it doesnt take much time

 

[Purgy]

he has higher AP, Dura and speed, yes he stomps but just cant kill her

So we agree he doesn't stomp then

he is not going to watch as she flies up towards the moon to cast it, it is simple man

Based on what? Is there even any evidence that he knows Infinite Tsukuyomi exists and how it works? And what can he do to stop Kaguya from using it? Nothing.

it needs to be updated then, anyway it does not matter, sasuke could not keep up or perceive isshiki attacks, new era sasiuke >= war arc sasuke = kaguya/
kaguya will be getting blitzed either way

No it's correct how it is.

War Arc Sasuke doesn't = Kaguya in speed, she blitzed both him and SPSM Naruto multiple times and it even says on her profile that she's faster than both of them.

 

[Ruphas_Mafahl123]

he has higher AP, Dura and speed, yes he stomps but just cant kill her

Punching and kicking won't help Isshiki at all, she would regen anyway. And Kaguya knows Isshiki very well, she would opt to use infinite Tsukuyomi, Ash killing bones, etc...

Guys, just forget AP, in this match Hax>AP

 

[Mister6ame6]

Kaguya FRA

 

[Sus]

can't isshiki just nuke the planet
jk

 

[Ruphas_Mafahl123]

can't isshiki just nuke the planet

No Cuz he is only Low 5-B, and the Earth is 5-B in size

 

[FluffyCreatureZ]

No Cuz he is only Low 5-B, and the Earth is 5-B in size

I think that can still destroy the earth. Or like badly wound it.

 

[Sus]

No Cuz he is only Low 5-B, and the Earth is 5-B in size

i was joking but i remember that it depends on how you destroy it, like some feats can be low 5B and some are 5B, not sure tho

 

[Ruphas_Mafahl123]

i was joking but i remember that it depends on how you destroy it, like some feats can be low 5B and some are 5B, not sure tho

Well, If Isshiki uses all of his strenght and punches the planet's core, then sure

 

[Sus]

makes sense, anyways back to the actual topic, is there any other things to discuss?

 

[Sus]

like from where did this come from

he is not going to watch as she flies up towards the moon to cast it, it is simple man

i mean he will not be looking as she casts it, and she needs time for that so he will not be looking at her as she is doing that

is there any evidence at all? I'm pretty sure the only way to resist it is to have a rinnigan..

 

[StrawHatArslan]

incon fra

 

[Lightning_XXI]

Kaguya FRA

 

[Sus]

I'm going with kaguya FRA + she's hot

 

[Baken384]

Kaguya Sama FRA

 

[Kidkinsey]

he can shrink her jutsu or absorb them, he's able to transmute her too wasn't that the plan
If he impales her like he left naruto whats her answer?

 

[Purgy]

he can shrink her jutsu or absorb them, he's able to transmute her too wasn't that the plan

They both can absorb jutsu

Can you show a scan stating Isshiki was going to transmute Kaguya? I don't think people realize that Momoshiki had a specific ability that lets him turn Otsutsuki into pills with his Rinnegan, normally they feed the lower ranked Otsutsuki to the planted Ten Tails and then the higher ranked one consumes the fruit.

If he impales her like he left naruto whats her answer?

I'm not sure what you mean by this, the rods inhibit movement, they don't prevent you from moving entirely, Sasuke was able to dimension hop while impaled and Kaguya has already demonstrated being able to dimension hop while encased in ice and unable to move.

 

[M3X_2.0]

Wait, Isshiki doesn't have Karma, and I don't remember he absorbing jutsus when he is Isshiki.

 

[MrKerf]

Kaguya FRA.

 

[Teezar]

Isshiki seems more faster and higher AP to incap but kaguya seems to have more hax and wincon.

And the turning the kaguya to fruit thing to me it's NLF as kinshiki himself gave himself to momoshiki to eat when he was cornered.

But neutral till I reason everything thoroughly.

 

[Ruphas_Mafahl123]

Isshiki seems more faster and higher AP to incap but kaguya seems to have more hax and wincon.

Isshiki's AP advantage won't do anything, thanks to Kaguya's regen, and Kaguya would pull Infinite Tsukuyomi as soon as possible, knowing the threat that Isshiki is. Also Jigen's Sealing won't do anything, becouse Kaguya has dimensional travel.

Also, Kaguya could get rid of him with Ash killing bones, etc...

 

[Teezar]

Isshiki can dodge the bone ash attacks and I don't see mugen tsukiyomi working on otsusuki.

 

[Purgy]

Isshiki can dodge the bone ash attacks and I don't see mugen tsukiyomi working on otsusuki.

This is baseless

 

[Sus]

Isshiki can dodge the bone ash attacks and I don't see mugen tsukiyomi working on otsusuki.

it was never stated or even slightly hinted, only people with rinnigan resist the MT

 

[Teezar]

So mugen tsukiyomi GG I guess so isshiki can't incap her?

 

[Bernkastelll]

it was never stated or even slightly hinted, only people with rinnigan resist the MT

Isnt Rinnegan just Hagoromo power, aka Otsutsuki power?

 

[Teezar]

This is true but hamura wasn't also affected by mugen tsukiyomi right?

 

[Bernkastelll]

This is true but hamura wasn't also affected by mugen tsukiyomi right?

I don't remember

 

[Sus]

Isnt Rinnegan just Hagoromo power, aka Otsutsuki power?

yes but isshiki doesn't have it

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

This is true but hamura wasn't also affected by mugen tsukiyomi right?

Kaguya used IT before her sons were born and didn't use in their fight because she was in her Ten Tails form

 

[Teezar]

I don't remember

Since hamura and hagoromo are needed to seal kaguya then it means hamura mustn't have been affected possibly.

 

[Teezar]

Kaguya used IT before her sons were born and didn't use in their fight because she was in her Ten Tails form

Ok

 

[Sus]

Certain individuals are immune to the Infinite Tsukuyomi. The dead, such as those brought back with the Impure World Reincarnation, are impervious to the Infinite Tsukuyomi. White Zetsu, Black Zetsu, and those whose body Black Zetsu coats are also unaffected.
Nearly all the Otsutsuki so far possess a Byakugan, which allows them to detect chakra flow– it would be difficult to fool them to begin with. Auditory genjutsu could possibly work. ... Considering the insane chakra control and raw power the Otsutsuki have, whether or not they possess a Rinnegan is nearly irrelevant.

i found this ^ should it be helpful?

 

[Kidkinsey]

Wait, Isshiki doesn't have Karma, and I don't remember he absorbing jutsus when he is Isshiki.

true as isshiki I recall him just shrinking things. Boroshiki can still absorb jutsu and I guess thats the same as jigen becoming isshiki

 

[Arkenis]

I’m neutral on this as of now. Isshiki is stronger but kaguya has regen and he can escapes her win cons.

 

[KINGRDB]

The majority is for Kaguya
How do we get this on her profile

 

[FluffyCreatureZ]

The majority is for Kaguya
How do we get this on her profile

Count all the votes and post them in the OP, if the votes for kaguya meet the criteria for grace then we wait 24 hours and then add it.