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Issues about Lucario and Darkrai's scaling.

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What statement says the manga is canon? Nothing, zero statements.

The sameway everything is decided. By looking at the main line. If it's not explicitly apart of the mainline of games it's noncanon. And considering the manga has no involvement with any person who works on the game, well isnt that how we decide what is canon for anime and manga? We don't need a statement saying it's noncanon, we do need a statement saying it is canon though.
 
Exactly, even WoG hints at that in interviews, and metafiction in the games show that even alternate copies of the games are alternate universes. It's all one giant multiverse, really.

Your entire argument is primarily centered on ignoring the fact that the Pokémon profiles are Composite and we allow scaling from alternate timelines as the games themselves seen to refer as being the same universe, but with different events.
 
WOG merely implies the anime and games are a multiverse, theres no hinting at anything bigger, and each copy of a game is still a game dude.

You're taking a single statement and applying it to everything when it shouldnt be. Unless ya find a statement that says spinoffs and manga are canon then they aren't, simple as that.
 
They literally refer to the Cable-Connection in game as a gateway to a parallel universe, dude.

And no, Manga and Spin-Off are canon to the multiverse. Simple.
 
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You're taking a single statement and applying it to everything when it shouldnt be. Unless ya find a statement that says spinoffs and manga are canon then they aren't, simple as that.
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Find me a statement anywhere saying these spin off are non-canon. If anything it's your head canon saying they aren't. Until officially said otherwise, this is canon.
 
Kaltias, the pokemon manga arent adaptions if say the anime, they're their own thing with different stories, usually lore, massive differences and more. And even some spinoff games have no relation to anything else.
 
And it makes sense to assume a bunch of random universes lie outside the multiverse then? Yeah no.

Everything should be logically assumed to be a part of each other unless something says otherwise, and even then, it would simply be an alternate universe/timeline cut off from all the other ones in the same multiverse.
 
They don't lie out of the multiverse because they have no relation at all. They dont exist in relation to each other period Kukui. Noncanon doesn'tmean outside the multiverse, it means they don't even exist in relation. Own thing, standalone.
 
I don't even know who's side you're on. I'm kinda juggling like 3-5 people at once.

Either way, unless you can prove they exist in the multiverse they don't, simple as that, anuthing else is headcanon. Lack of a statement is not support.
 
And why's that Weekly? That's wrong, theres no reason to assume something is canon unless directly connected to another manga, the anime or games.
 
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Either way, unless you can prove they exist in the multiverse they don't, simple as that, anuthing else is headcanon. Lack of a statement is not support.
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You are literally doing the exact same thing. You are losing the "lack of a it's canon" statement to say it's not canon when nothing implies it is non-canon. If anything you are using headcanon.
 
Different author, studio, higher ups having zero involvement. Especially obvious in regards to manga.

Why dontbwe consider the Kirby anime canon then to the Kirby games? Or novels and eyes of heaven to JoJo? Both have paralel universes in each, nothing says they arebt canon. So why don't we assume they are?
 
The joke is that we actually scale the Jojo Main Continuity to the Non-Canon Novels and Games, we just don't do the opposite.
 
We do consider the former canon though. Galaxia originated in the anime. Kabuki Kirby did as well. Along with Escargoon, who was in Strato Patrol EOS. Heck, an episode of the anime is a 3DS exclusive. Separate profiles are for convenience.
 
Okay now Kaltias, how many cross references aren't for the games and anime, which are linked? Like are we really gonna say Reburst is canon or PMD with zero evidence?
 
if it has no connections why assume they're connected.

This goes for everything.

Either it's connected through story is noted in that media thus canon or stated to be canon. If not then it isn't.

Unless there's been a statement saying everythingis canon you can't just assume that's the case.
 
Not how it works Kukui, or every noncanon thing ever is now canon.

90% of those are references are to the same two canons, which have been stated to be together. Not exactly changing much.
 
Actually, reading through them it's almost entirely just eastereggss, nods, or obvious shit like "ash has clothes that look like red's".
 
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Actually, reading through them it's almost entirely just eastereggss, nods, or obvious shit like "ash has clothes that look like red's".
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"Pokémon Yellow is a direct tribute to the anime."

^That's literally the first one on the list
 
Other verses don't matter here. Pokemon is not other verses. I would have hoped that the fact that we have specific Pokemon File rules would at least show that.
 
It matters, why does it apply to Pokemon but nothing else? No one has proven why yet, ya got a statement for games and anime, good thus I dropped that. But everything else? Yeah no, proof.

Because of a rule? What in verse rule or whatever? What rule? There's is no rule.
 
Because all those verses =/= pokemon. Simple as that.

Again, no evidence to say they are noncanon? If not, then its canon to the multiverse by default and can logically be assumed to be by default.
 
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