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Issues about Lucario and Darkrai's scaling.
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I know of that dragon, but that's reffering to G3 ruby and sapphire, so still the games.
Saikou, he also said looking at it as a parralel world, that could easily mean he was just likening it to something.
Saikou, he also said looking at it as a parralel world, that could easily mean he was just likening it to something.
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The Pokémon Anime Continuity is loose as is. Nobody ever ages. The games and mangas have arguably a far more cohesive timeline.
So yeah, using the movies for the anime is 100% fine.
So yeah, using the movies for the anime is 100% fine.
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"Nobody ever ages"
Every cartoon ever in a nutshell.
Every cartoon ever in a nutshell.
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What? Of course the movies and anime are fine for each other.
My problem lies in cross scaling stuff between anime, games, spinoff games and various manga.
My problem lies in cross scaling stuff between anime, games, spinoff games and various manga.
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What? I'm not saying movies and anime aren't interconnected, they are. The first few movies have specific timeframes if I recall.
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Yeah, so?
I think you think I'm saying nothingis connected. I'm not.
I'm just saying for things that are standalone that cross scaling shouldn't be a thing.
I think you think I'm saying nothingis connected. I'm not.
I'm just saying for things that are standalone that cross scaling shouldn't be a thing.
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That's objectively false. Hell, Adventure Time has age progression for the characters and that is pure nonsense most of the time.The Everlasting said:
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Actually thats not true.Dark649 said:
In the episodes of D&P when Darkrai and Cresselia battle, Dawn uses a Lunar Wing she got from Alamos Town in the Darkrai movie. Bulbpedia even admits this and says its canon. And the Darkrai movie is canon to all the other movies too.
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Bruh, I was being sarcastic on how old (And even semi-recent) cartoons have nonsensical progressions of time.
Like how Phineas and Ferb has more episodes than days of summer.
Bruh, I was being sarcastic on how old (And even semi-recent) cartoons have nonsensical progressions of time.
Like how Phineas and Ferb has more episodes than days of summer.
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My fault, was kinda adding to ur comment lol
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>As many may notice, this Pokemon has an incredibly high tier, especially for a normal Pokemon. This Lucario comes from a spinoff manga completely detached from any of the running continuities, and doesn't have counter-feats coming after this, given this was the last feat of the entire series.
Straight from Lucario 7, if its unrelated to any other continuity then why is it being scaled off them? This goes for anything like that, PMD crosscaling is another problem i have.
Straight from Lucario 7, if its unrelated to any other continuity then why is it being scaled off them? This goes for anything like that, PMD crosscaling is another problem i have.
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Most Pokémon are taken at their peak though. A Dusknoir isn't special if it's wild, so any Pokémon can achieve its feats, al long as they're within reason.
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Im fine with the profiles Cal.
I just have issue with cross scaling. Like not every dusknoir is that one (who's noted to be super powerful), so if a cacturne fights a Dysknoir in say the manga, that cacturne shouldn't scale because 1. That feat happens in an unrelated canon and 2. That dusknoir was strong as shit.
I just have issue with cross scaling. Like not every dusknoir is that one (who's noted to be super powerful), so if a cacturne fights a Dysknoir in say the manga, that cacturne shouldn't scale because 1. That feat happens in an unrelated canon and 2. That dusknoir was strong as shit.
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Just saying, we scale all Fully evolved Pokemon like this. Similar to how Charizard's feat from PMD is used to support the current 7-A stats.
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I'm aware and I think it's wrong. (Especially since that Charizard feat happens in a noncanon game and is done by a Charizard of high renown, likely above most other Charizard).
If Charizard had a tier 6 feat from pokepark or pmd, id be fine with it, it can go on his profile regardless of what it's from. But using that hypotethitcal tier 6 feat and slapping it on, for example, ash's Charizard because they're both Charizard and scaling it to anything that fought ash's Charizard is a no go.
If Charizard had a tier 6 feat from pokepark or pmd, id be fine with it, it can go on his profile regardless of what it's from. But using that hypotethitcal tier 6 feat and slapping it on, for example, ash's Charizard because they're both Charizard and scaling it to anything that fought ash's Charizard is a no go.
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Well, it's up to what everyone decides. Everyone decided to use feats like this. So you have to go through them. They made the rules for Pokemon files. I'm just going by what they used. Can't help what you think.
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That's why I said it was used to support them.Dark649 said:
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It's wrong. It's an abuse of cross scaling.
Most of these things are completely unrelated and different canons.
It's not ok for anything else, why is it ok for Pokemon?
Most of these things are completely unrelated and different canons.
It's not ok for anything else, why is it ok for Pokemon?
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Profiles are composite and pokemons a multiverse so noncanon kinda isnt a reason.
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What actually says this stuff is non-canon though? I never knew that there was an official statement stating this.
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Profiles are fine dude. I've saud that 4 times.
Multiverse isn't a reason either. So far the only thing you have shown is a statement that says the anime and mainline games are parralel worlds, nothing else was mentioned like manga, spinoff games and more.
Multiverse isn't a reason either. So far the only thing you have shown is a statement that says the anime and mainline games are parralel worlds, nothing else was mentioned like manga, spinoff games and more.
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Because Pokemon as a verse works differently than like 99% of the wikia?TheJ-ManRequiem said:
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Why would this Darkrai be any weaker than the other Darkrai?TheJ-ManRequiem said:
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Because different canon, hasnt shown to be that strong, theres been other cases of darkrai that have varying power.
Also kukui, that diesnt answrr mybqyestion prove everything is a multiverse, if you cant then this method is wrong.
Also kukui, that diesnt answrr mybqyestion prove everything is a multiverse, if you cant then this method is wrong.
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Everything is part of the Pokémon Multiverse, even other copies of the games.
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Or maybe those "cases" are all just reeking of PIS? Heck Tobias and Darkrai are the biggest one out of them all concerning Darkrai overall and we already established why Ash's team even being in the same area code as Tobias is PIS.
What proves that manga, spinoffs, etc. wouldnt be apart of the Multiverse as anything else? That makes literally no sense.
What proves that manga, spinoffs, etc. wouldnt be apart of the Multiverse as anything else? That makes literally no sense.
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Pokémon of the same species can logically be stronger than each other but not to the level of there being degrees of infinity separating them.
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"Also kukui, that doesn't answer my question prove everything is a multiverse, if you cant then this method is wrong."
Can I ask? Why wouldn't this be part of the multiverse? Why out of all things would this be not part of the multiverse? Explain that to me?
Can I ask? Why wouldn't this be part of the multiverse? Why out of all things would this be not part of the multiverse? Explain that to me?
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Why would it be? Assuming every piece of pokemon media is part of a multiverse when nothing exists that implies That? Show me the statement, so far ya got anime and games together, nothing else. Assuming everything is is simply headcanon.
Two darkrai may be comparable, but if there exists zero darkrai with 2-C feats in their canon then thats not a reason anymore. Since theres nothing to be comparable towards.
Two darkrai may be comparable, but if there exists zero darkrai with 2-C feats in their canon then thats not a reason anymore. Since theres nothing to be comparable towards.
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Because you kinda can't have one multiverse be separate than the other in the same fiction?
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Oh yes you can Kukui. It's called being noncanon.
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What statement has ever stated the the manga was non-canon? What decides what is canon here? What is "canon" in the Pokemon Multiverse? What official statement says whether what is canon and what is not? Secondary Canon yes, non-canon? No.
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There's no such thing as 2 multiverses in a single fiction, canon or not.
The anime used to be noncanon when compared to the games and look how that turned out. Because of Alain and Ash-Greninja, their pratically one and the same.
Theres nothing at all that implies spinoffs and the manga are separate from the multiverse when they can simply just be alternate universes like everything else.
The anime used to be noncanon when compared to the games and look how that turned out. Because of Alain and Ash-Greninja, their pratically one and the same.
Theres nothing at all that implies spinoffs and the manga are separate from the multiverse when they can simply just be alternate universes like everything else.
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