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Well he was able to Boost 47 times in like a second so that would be; x2, x4, x8, x16, x32, x64, x128, x256, x512, x1024, x2048, x4096, x8192... Wow this gets ridiculous real fast, I'm not even up to half way
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I'm not sure we're allowed to use the 2x end since Issei and co. would be Tier 5 if we did. I think we just assume it boosts his power a lot.Everything12 said:Well he was able to Boost 47 times in like a second so that would be; x2, x4, x8, x16, x32, x64, x128, x256, x512, x1024, x2048, x4096, x8192... Wow this gets ridiculous real fast, I'm not even up to half way
1.4x10^14 by the endEverything12 said:Well he was able to Boost 47 times in like a second so that would be; x2, x4, x8, x16, x32, x64, x128, x256, x512, x1024, x2048, x4096, x8192... Wow this gets ridiculous real fast, I'm not even up to half way
Tatsumaki's crush is thought-based which is why I'm not sure if he'll breach an at least 40x LS difference to break out in time.Firephoenixearl said:About the amps as Everything said, he can amp real quick so it's not that much of a problem.
Its not just assuming, its repeatedly say to double his power from not just knowledgeable people in verse but even the narration. Their is no other way to take his power other then that it doubles his strength, to say otherwise but be to deny one the biggest parts of the series itself. Assuming that he has a limit that prevents him from reaching Tier 5 and the like is understandably but assuming it doesn't double his power is just wrong.Planck69 said:I'm not sure we're allowed to use the 2x end since Issei and co. would be Tier 5 if we did. I think we just assume it boosts his power a lot.
It's thought based though she does use hand movement and to my knowledge she has never insta crushed someone despite being far superior.Planck69 said:Tatsumaki's crush is thought-based which is why I'm not sure if he'll breach an at least 40x LS difference to break out in time.Firephoenixearl said:About the amps as Everything said, he can amp real quick so it's not that much of a problem.
Yeah, but at what point do we consider it to stop? 10 boosts would take Issei to 3.072 Petatons or Continent level+ with his LS being Class P. Yes, the narration makes this clear but it directly contradicts what we are shown on-screen. Unless he splatters everyone he spams boost against or something.Everything12 said:Its not just assuming, its repeatedly say to double his power from not just knowledgeable people in verse but even the narration. Their is no other way to take his power other then that it doubles his strength, to say otherwise but be to deny one the biggest parts of the series itself. Assuming that he has a limit that prevents him from reaching Tier 5 and the like is understandably but assuming it doesn't double his power is just wrong.
So do we assume it puts him at High 6-B or....? I really don't know what to do here beyond maybe arbitrarily assuming that it puts him above Tatsumaki (which it does but to what extent is important here).Firephoenixearl said:It's thought based though she does use hand movement and to my knowledge she has never insta crushed someone despite being far superior.
And 40x difference is like...less than 6 boosts.
I am reading that she wins with her rangePhoenks said:I haven't read much of this thread.
That being said wouldn't Tatsumaki just instantly crush him?
Well, yeah. That's assuming of course that he isn't crushed to death already.Jem La Dore said:One thing and this does count... Issei can summon Ddraig to help him fight. Ddraig is technically a familiar and by fact is still part of the Boosted Gear making his summon a "summoning skill" Issei has and does not count as a separate character technically. Yeah if Issei is on losing end, he can just summon Ddraig. No Ddraig ban was made so can't tell me I'm wrong.
Her TK doesn't have travel time so yes, she can just easily trap him as long as she can see him.Jem La Dore said:Yeah but the bigger it is, the easier it is to dodge. Tats cannot so easily trap Issei and then drop a large amount of force upon him like what's been said. Insta death is also a big fat wank.
No she doesn't have 40x his Lifting Strength. Her LS and Issei's LS are both Class T so where is this 40x more LS of Issei from exactly?Planck69 said:Her TK doesn't have travel time so yes, she can just easily trap him as long as she can see him.Jem La Dore said:Yeah but the bigger it is, the easier it is to dodge. Tats cannot so easily trap Issei and then drop a large amount of force upon him like what's been said. Insta death is also a big fat wank.
How is it wank when she actually has 40 times the LS of the other?
Class T ranges from 10^12 to 10^15 kg, you can both have Class T and still be vastly different in scale. In this case;Jem La Dore said:No she doesn't have 40x his Lifting Strength. Her LS and Issei's LS are both Class T so where is this 40x more LS of Issei from exactly?
We're using the Low 6-B versions of both characters.Jem La Dore said:K, but even then she's not insta killing him or even wounding him greatly. Issei has country-planet class durability.
Issei>> 3 TeratonsJem La Dore said:Ok..wha's low 6-B durability then?
Fight starts. She restrains Issei with TK. Twists him to a pretzel or crushes him. Fight ends.Jem La Dore said:Why though.
The feat in question ranges from High 7-A to 6-C at the most.Jem La Dore said:You going to tell me that 40x crush is Low 6-B? Sounds like higher than low 6-B
You seem to misunderstand. The feat for her LS being Class T was part of a calc that yielded High 7-A/6-C results but is still a valid way to find her LS. Her Low 6-B rating is from another one entirely. She has the LS to restrain Issei and the AP which, when used in conjustion with her restraint, can crush him.Jem La Dore said:Then it cannot be used. Therefore one cannot say she instantly crushes him to death. Because really, I'm not seeing anything other than that 40x as a sure guarantee she insta wins.
It doesn't need to. Both are in a close enough range of power that Tatsumaki can still hurt him.Jem La Dore said:So her AP surpasses 6 teratons?