Infinite universe DB Redux

[TiltedFN]

Yep, we're bringing infinite universe back, I don't think the old counterarguments really hold up, so I made a blog explaining why infinite universe is actually correct and should be added back to the cosmology. Please do not discuss other things, such as what characters scale, ratings, etc. That can be handled in another crt and would be best to just discuss the cosmology to not messy things up.




Agree:


Disagree: DarkDragonMedeus, Maverick_Zero_X

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Neutral:



Have at it!

 

[ChoursDropoff]

I agree

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

I agree

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

I agree

I agree

You guys didn´t even read the blog, lmao

 

[TiltedFN]

You guys didn´t even read the blog, lmao

They did

 

[TheGodOfICE777]

You guys didn´t even read the blog, lmao

Lmao they did, we’re in a discord server and tilted shared it with us. Tilted asked us to check his blog before publishing.

 

[Killerdrone123]

As I have already read this before I agree

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

They did

Lmao they did, we’re in a discord server and tilted shared it with us. Tilted asked us to check his blog before publishing.

Okay then, lol

 

[CaveGamist]

Seen it already, agree

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

After reading the blog: It looks pretty straight-forward, so i agree with it, afterall

 

[LordDestroit10K]

Agree… Let’s have infinite DB universes finally!

 

[ProfectusInfinity]

Looks reasonable, put me in agree.

 

[GarrixianXD]

Ehhh… I feel like there are a few translation inaccuracies towards this. I’ll come back to this later.

 

[Zamasu_Chan]

Hmmmm

 

[TiltedFN]

Ehhh… I feel like there are a few translation inaccuracies towards this. I’ll come back to this later.

I mean I put stuff from herms in there and links to executor confirming some of the translations in there.

 

[Zamasu_Chan]

Ehhh… I feel like there are a few translation inaccuracies towards this. I’ll come back to this later.

“I feel like” being part of your premise worries me.

 

[Omegabronic]

Reminder, please don't flood it people, you don't want another cosmology thread to be a massive mess like the ones in the past, neutral, will see how this goes

 

[CelestialVortex01]

Couldn't agree more!

 

[ArmBill]

I concur with this symposium.

 

[Chariot190]

dont we see the actual unis in the u6 arc and theyre finite, notably at the end

 

[Killerdrone123]

dont we see the actual unis in the u6 arc and theyre finite, notably at the end

Artistic representation

 

[TiltedFN]

dont we see the actual unis in the u6 arc and theyre finite, notably at the end

Um what

 

[Chariot190]

Artistic representation

but it was in real time and even zoomed out when they summoned super shenron

 

[Chariot190]

Um what

We literally see the universes at the end of the U6 arc dog, even see sup shenron light the gap between them?
They are visually, not infinite, like idk if they retconned it or what not, but they're, well, universe sized.

 

[Killerdrone123]

but it was in real time and even zoomed out when they summoned super shenron

how can they artistically represent an infinite universe

 

[Chariot190]

how can they artistically represent an infinite universe

By not doing this

 

[TiltedFN]

We literally see the universes at the end of the U6 arc dog, even see sup shenron light the gap between them?
They are visually, not infinite, like idk if they retconned it or what not, but they're, well, universe sized.

That doesn't debunk infinite universe, and it was seen from the perspective of the neutral zone which separates the two universes on a 5th axis, and obviously the universes don't actually look like that, its purely a visual representation. And since the universes are parallel to each other, of course they would look finite in the neutral zone because its higher dimensional.

 

[Killerdrone123]

By not doing this

I mean it is being viewed from a perspective that we can also see there space time barriers as a sphere you know the things which are infinitely greater then high 3a universe

 

[GarrixianXD]

By not doing this

Super Shenron is 3-B in size so that being your reasoning on the Universes being finite is invalid.

Edit: Nvm, I think I saw the wrong clip.

 

[Chariot190]

That doesn't debunk infinite universe,

It's a blatant visual contradiction my dude.

and it was seen from the perspective of the neutral zone which separates the two universes on a 5th axis

This doesn't matter? It doesn't change what they look like.

, and obviously the universes don't actually look like that, its purely a visual representation.

Based on? That happened in real time, we see two spheres, filled with nebulae, galaxies, and more, why in the world are we assuming "nuh uh it fake", it is LITERALLY what they look without artistic license or representation.

Give me, an actual hard statement saying this so "purely visual" as if we don't see non visual stuff like shenron's light at the exact same time.

Tbh I would've agreed with the CRT but Super ******* hates ya dog

Like that is not infinite, and they show them a few times too iirc.

 

[Chariot190]

I mean it is being viewed from a perspective that we can also see there space time barriers you know the things which are infinitely greater then high 3a universe

So? We can see still see through them, it isn't infinite, it's very blatantly finite at that, the very fact we can see edge to edge of said barrier, in and of itself is an issue

 

[Nullflowerblush]

Super Shenron is infinite in length. Easy.

 

[GarrixianXD]

It's a blatant visual contradiction my dude.

This doesn't matter? It doesn't change what they look like.

Based on? That happened in real time, we see two spheres, filled wit nebulae, galaxies, and more, why in the world are we assuming "nuh uh it fake", it is LITERALLY what they look without artistic license or representation.

Give me, an actual hard statement saying this so "purely visual" as if we don't see non visual stuff like shenron's light at the exact same time.

Tbh I would've agreed with the CRT but Super ******* hates ya dog

Like that is not infinite, and they show them a few times too iirc.

yet, you can see Super Shenron in the neutral space so… which isn’t the case from the previous scene.

 

[Killerdrone123]

So? We can see still see through them, it isn't infinite, it's very blatantly finite at that, the very fact we can see edge to said barrier, in and of itself is an issue

That's not the point we can also see the space time barriers are finite from that perspective so it is just given to visually show us it doesn't mean anything

 

[Chariot190]

yet, you can see Super Shenron in the neutral space so… which isn’t the case from the previous scene.

What? Yes it is, what are you talking about? That's just the light that shone off him?

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Super Shenron is infinite in length. Easy.

No, he is in neutral space, his size is 3-B.

 

[Nullflowerblush]

Yeah, nice sleuthing, man.

 

[Chariot190]

That's not the point we can also see the space time barriers are finite from that perspective so it is just given to visually show us it doesn't mean anything

That literally just mean's they're finite too? Like they're currently accepted to be? Why are you assuming they'd be infinite by default? If they were, we wouldn't even need this CRT.

This ain't an argument, this is literally what they look like without fluff, artistic representation, any of that. It is the single most literal shot of the cosmos in DBZ media as a whole.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

I don't really agree with making the physical universe of Dragon Ball infinite.

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

It's a blatant visual contradiction my dude.

This doesn't matter? It doesn't change what they look like.

Based on? That happened in real time, we see two spheres, filled with nebulae, galaxies, and more, why in the world are we assuming "nuh uh it fake", it is LITERALLY what they look without artistic license or representation.

Give me, an actual hard statement saying this so "purely visual" as if we don't see non visual stuff like shenron's light at the exact same time.

Tbh I would've agreed with the CRT but Super ******* hates ya dog

Like that is not infinite, and they show them a few times too iirc.

I disagree with infinite universes as well.