not untouched since the Kaioshin realm still doesn't fit for universal size anymore, but yeah it will be just 2-C
Uh didn't we see in the manga that universe map is actually how the universe looks (whis showing those galaxy orbs was probably just for visual affect to better help Goku understand better)
That's not what he's disputing. Kaioshin Realm doesn't have enough size to qualify for Low 2-C under current standards. That's what he's referring to.
If the votes stay the way they are until the weekend, he'll be 3-A, likely 2-C. And for characters that can destroy two macrocosms, 2-C, likely far higher
pretty sure he'll be low2c, likely 2c, not 3A if the votes remain the same.
Why would Whis gaslight Goku like that, like Goku knows what heaven is
Yeah and we also have all the fuckys in the actual anime itself that take priority
Nah he will be 3-A, that was the rating before the universal sizes afterall
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.....i am talking about the BoG feat
You do know that it was 3-A before even when the Universe was Low 2-C right?
Only Low 2-C if it destroys the entire timeline, including the past and stuff, which like, cant really prove in that example.
A timeline in db is low 1c, what on earth are you talking about?
Hypertimeline is Low 1-C*
well.......my final thread about cosmoslogy i plan on trying to make it a regular thread again............if it becomes too much of a mess i will ask for closure to open up a new staff discussion thread, but since we are already here, close an end
The fact that "cosmos" is explicitly used to contract against "the universe" indicates to me that they shouldn't be regarded as meaning the same thing. I'm not comfortable regarding it as such.
so you disagree with Universal Afterlife?
That’s not the only arguments. It’s stated that the afterlife is a counterpart to the living world, and makes up the upper half.
What exactly is the context through which this determination is being made? Who is being purported to scale to this, and how?
I just want to add that Dragon Ball Landmark guidebook page for cosmology also calls Afterlife “The Cosmos” in its explanations:
the "upper half" part is talking about the Macrocosm Model, seen as the statement has an arrow pointing directly at said model, as in, it is the "upper" half in that model, however that model is inaccurate in size several ways and isn't used in the DBS Anime as what the universe looks like at all, making that statement very dubious in of itself and unusable for the DBS Anime as it doesn't use it
Basically, this is a cosmological thread. Anyone who scales to the macrocosm scales to the afterlife though. Since the afterlife is apart of Universe 7 and there’s other universes with their own afterlife.
All the realms being argued as Universes were concluded to be spatiotemporally separate a while back in the thread, what matters now is determining if they fit the Universal size requirements for Low 2-C.
I don’t want to extend the thread needlessly, but this point is worth stressing. We’re not concluding that Otherworld is half the macrocosm based off visuals only, or taking the map to scale as the sole argument. It was stated to be the upper half of the Macrocosm, and the obvious consequence of that is the Living World and Otherworld share roughly the same volume since, well… that’s how two halves work.
It was stated to the be the upper half of the globe, globe here being clearly reference to the Macrocosm Map, as in it is deacribing the map, given the arrow that is pointing directly at it in the statement made
Writting the final thread already, ginna take a little while due to irl afairs
Share the link to that thread over here before locking this one
Not a bad idea
1 agree with "likely" Universal size, 2 with straight and 2 disagreeing, the only reason i am choosing to make this a "likely" rating is as a concession due to the extreme flood this thread, will need the next one to tap the other topics i wanted to deal with
hence why i am making a continuation thread to tap into the other parts that weren't about size....which the plan was to cover them here but you know.........everyone just flooded the heck out of the thread
what other topics?
You will see when the thread's made, kind of busy irl at the moment, but i will finish writting it soon enough
Low 1c timeline if I had to guess
