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Hinata Hyuuga Upgrade (Naruto)

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Tier 5 Hinata, like at all, is pushing this too far. I am vehemently against that. But I also think PIS doesn't really apply here and Hinata not getting a boost from Hamuras own chakra is ridiculous.

7-A+ Hinata is good enough and the most reasonable. Anything higher is a obvious no.
 
Hinata scales to Sakura who is gonna be upgraded once BFF decides the revisions are gonna start back since we need a break
 
Hinata should be higher then Sakura given that she has SOSP chakra but she also helped Naruto destroy....something that was considered a threat in the Last (i forgot what the destroyed)
 
I quote '" When she met Hamura, Hinata inherited some of his 'chakra' because she is a member of the Hyüga clan's main house. It is the strength and purity of her chakra that attracts Toneri Ōtsutsuki and' later prompts Hamura himself to transfer his chakra to her. This changes Hinata's chakra from blue to purple and makes her uniquely able to destroy the Tenseiga. She is also shown using this chakra to replenish Naruto's tremendous reserves with no signs of exhaustion nearly instantly, something that took an experienced medical-nin like Sakura Haruno three days to do."
 
Don't know why people are talking about loosing SOSPC lol cause that stuff fuses with a persons base chakra and it doesn't leave unless your form is from the Juubi lol

For example Naruto who power didn't leave and Sasuke and they both got it in there base

Hinata has it just like them so it doesn't leave at all
 
> It is the strength and purity of her chakra that attracts Toneri Ōtsutsuki

Further reinforces how inconsistent these fan-made "strength and output" labels are. This happened before Hinata got Hamura's chakra.
 
And 7-A+ Hinata is not reasonable. She has no feats on that level and I'm strongly against any upgrade. She has nothing, just speculation and attempts to universalize the chakra system.

Her only AP feat with Hamura's chakra is being unable to destroy the Tenseigan by her lonesome and needing to channel Naruto's chakra.
 
It occurs to me that you don't know how mechanics in Naruto verse work


If you have lots of chakra, and strong chakra, and great chakra control your AP can be boosted from scaling and statements

Hinata has feats of having lots of chakra and we know for a fact that the chakra she has is stronger than normal chakra that Sakura has.

I don't really see how this is a debate tbh lol like seriously. This is the same situation as Naruto and Sasuke being 5B scaling from having Hags power without having a 5B feat of their own as teens.
 
AstralKing7 said:
It occurs to me that you don't know how mechanics in Naruto verse work

If you have lots of chakra, and strong chakra, and great chakra control your AP can be boosted from scaling and statements

Hinata has feats of having lots of chakra and we know for a fact that the chakra she has is stronger than normal chakra that Sakura has.

I don't really see how this is a debate tbh lol like seriously. This is the same situation as Naruto and Sasuke being 5B scaling from having Hags power without having a 5B feat of their own as teens.
I thought the same thing. Hagoromo and Hamura r both brothers and both have SOSP chakra and since we feel that Base Naruto/Sasuke r 5-B, then whats wrong w/ Hinata having 5-B when she has the EXACT SAME chakra as Naruto/Sasuke? Hell u need to be at the same lvl or comparable to replenish chakra like that
 
Peter "Quicksilver" Maximoff said:
Hinata being 5-B is the biggest outlier/pis of the century
But she has SOSP chakra in her....thats like saying Base Adult Naruto is outlier/PIS just cause he has God chakra in him
 
Peter "Quicksilver" Maximoff said:
BlackeJan said:
Peter "Quicksilver" Maximoff said:
Hinata being 5-B is the biggest outlier/pis of the century
But she has SOSP chakra in her....thats like saying Base Adult Naruto is outlier/PIS just cause he has God chakra in him
So did kakashi.....and he has actual feats to go along with it.
Are you really comparing Obito's SPC fragment to Hagoromo and Hamura's SPC?
 
Peter "Quicksilver" Maximoff said:
So did kakashi.....and he has actual feats to go along with it.
Hinata did as well....she recovered Naruto's chakra w/in secs while Sakura collasped after 3 days AND she helped Naruto destroyed the Tenseigan
 
Replenishing does not equal being on the same level of the person you are healing if that were the case, sakura should be naruto's equal all throughout shippudden and karin with sasuke also.
 
Yet Sakura collasped healing Narutos chakra while Hinata got him 100% w/in secs w/out fainting....there is a MAJOR difference between those 2 and ALSO she helped Naruto destroy the Teinsgan. Base Naruto (Last) NEEDED her help.

Now i should had explain this but 5B Hinata is a DEFINITE but there isnt evidence for her to be that lvl though im positively sure that she is higher then 7-A
 
Okay guys, as someone who agrees with this upgrade, stop. Just stop. And I mean it.

You are all asking for this to be rejected as a PIS outlier by arguing anything more than 7-A+ by trying to make Hinata tier 5. If you want this to go through, stop pushing for tier 5 Hinata. It's ridiculous, it's going too far, and it's never going through.
 
Kukui is correct in this regard.
 
Yes unknown would be the way to go, seeing how she has next to no feats with her new power. It's like giving an genin said power, does that atomically make him/her high to God tier level? Nope
 
BlackeJan stop with the 5-B Hinata.

I agree with 7-A. That is the most I am going with. There could be a likely higher I guess but that is it.
 
Why would Hinata scale to 7-A?
 
Why r y'all saying I agree w/ 5-B?! I even just said not that long agai that she would be but she doesn't have any feats but I do believe that she is higher then 7-A but I just ask why is she going to 7-A?. I even exhausted myself saying it more then like 3 times that Logically she wouldn't be 5-B but in VIZ /Kishimoto ver she is basically just an average ninja who can't transform
 
Peter "Quicksilver" Maximoff said:
They claim she's as strong has sakura by replishing naruto's charka, even with no proir feats shown to suggest she's on or near said level
That is what a new feat is. "There are no prior feats" means nothing.
 
Well, scaling her from Sakura seems more reasonable, but I would prefer more staff input.
 
Never mind. There was a post above that said that chakra levels decide stamina not raw power, unless demonstrated otherwise. It may be best if we close this thread.
 
Antvasima said:
Never mind. There was a post above that said that chakra levels decide stamina not raw power, unless demonstrated otherwise. It may be best if we close this thread.
That was in regards to a persons Chakra level. What some people above aren't understanding is that we aren't discussing Hinata's Chakra Level.

This thread is duscussing the strength of Hinata's Chakra and how much Chakra she can push out. That has nothing to do with Chakra Level.
 
For all of you nay sayers, you haven't really addressed the facts.

The Facts are as follows:

  • Hinata demonstrated a vastly higher output of Chakra than Sakura in replelinishing Naruto's Chakra.
  • Hinata's Chakra is Vastly Stronger than Sakura's.
  • Higher Outputs of Chakra and Utilizing Strong Chakra always results in Stronger Jutsu and/or phtsical stats. This isn't up for debate, this is proved since chapter 1.
Why Hinata Scales Above Sakura:

  • Shown a higher output of chakra than Sakura (Replinishes Naruto's chakra in seconds as oopposed to Sakura needing Three days).
  • Hinata has Six Paths Chakra which is Vastly Stronger than Kyuubi Chakra, which is vastly stronger than regular Chakra.
  • Chakra strength has shown to massively increase Jutsu Strength consistently throughout the series.
 
Just because she has a larger amount of Chakra than Sakura and could move it faster doesn't mean all her Jutsu hit harder than Sakura.

The feats between the two literally disprove this. Sakura has much greater AP and destructive capacity with her feats. Hinata never once demonstrates any feat in Tier 7.

Her being better than Sakura at Chakra control and having more Chakra doesn't make her more stronger, durable or faster.

I agree with Peter that if anything, Hinata's new tier should be labeled as Unknown since she doesn't have any feat besides this one which isn't enough.
 
I think that IMade makes sense.
 
IMadeThisOn8-1-2017 said:
I agree with Peter that if anything, Hinata's new tier should be labeled as Unknown since she doesn't have any feat besides this one which isn't enough.
Yeah no feat is ever enough in Naruto even if balant.
 
IMadeThisOn8-1-2017 said:
Just because she has a larger amount of Chakra than Sakura and could move it faster doesn't mean all her Jutsu hit harder than Sakura.
The feats between the two literally disprove this. Sakura has much greater AP and destructive capacity with her feats. Hinata never once demonstrates any feat in Tier 7.

Her being better than Sakura at Chakra control and having more Chakra doesn't make her more stronger, durable or faster.

I agree with Peter that if anything, Hinata's new tier should be labeled as Unknown since she doesn't have any feat besides this one which isn't enough.
8-A Hinata demonstrates casual Tier 7 power after Recieving Kyuubi Chakra:

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NOTE: Her Father who scales to Neji at least, at full power using both hands could only "Block" Juubi's fist. Hinata overpowered it.
Six Paths Chskra is far far far stronger than Kyuubi Chakra and Hinata can output nearly all of Sakura's Capacity in doing so now.

So, no. "At least 7-A, likey far Higher" is fair.

Now, are you going to continue to sit there and try to push Hinata not scaling to or above Sakura? Your argument Basically asserts that Sakura (Whom doesn't have stronger chakra btw) with far less Chakra is still gonna outdo Hinata who can casually output far more vastly stronger chakra than her? Casually at that.
 
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