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Hinata Hyuuga Upgrade (Naruto)
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It was never stated that Hinata got any power boost from receiving Hamura's chakra. It is a headcanon, like the terms "stronger chakra" and "higher output of chakra", which are never alluded to and are attempts to explain the unexplainable.
Case-by-case analysis is this wiki's major decision system. Not fan theories.
Case-by-case analysis is this wiki's major decision system. Not fan theories.
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stronger chakra and high output of chakra can not mean anything but more power. Saying otherwise is in fact the fan theory.OzzyReborn said:
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Alright. Point me to the chapter where the term "higher output of chakra" is introduced.
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I did not say higher output of chakra of introduced anywhere I was saying that can only mean more power.OzzyReborn said:
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It would mean that, if it was an actual concept in-universe and not an invention.
What you're looking for is better feats, which Hinata sorely lacks when it comes to the AP department.
What you're looking for is better feats, which Hinata sorely lacks when it comes to the AP department.
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It's funny because nothing implies she has a vast amount of Chakra after the movie.when Momoshiki and the others invaded why didn't they bother stealing her chakra considering that via this logic she should have equal or at least the 3rd highest chakra capacity on the entire planet,so why wasn't she detected or even cared about?
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Maybe it is because they are not there for big chakra? But they are there for Nine tailed chakra.Sigurd Snake in The Eye said:
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You think they would have ignored her if she had alot of chakra?,even Mitsuki was acknowledged for having a special kind of chakra by Urashiki when he tried to use sage mode.
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Yes I think exactly that. Also it is not like I am saying she is 5-B, I only agree with 7-A. He had a special type of chakra not massive amounts of chakra.Sigurd Snake in The Eye said:
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Momoshiki didn't go after Sasuke even tho Sasuke had SPC and Hamura's chakra did increase Hinata's power that's the reason Hamura gave her the chakra,so that she could destroy the tenseigan and cause she was the byakugan princess and SPC chakra does increase jutsu power and change color(exanple- Sasuke's chidori when he fought jubidara, Kakashi's lighting blade). I find 5B too controversial so 7-A,likely higher(scaling from Sakura) or unknown is the best way to go. I don't want people fighting in this thread
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I still say we go with Unknown given we're basing this all on one singular feat that doesn't really correlate with their previous showings and our previous understandings.
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Special was still enough to interest him, the Chakra Hamura possessed was both vast and special.Rocker1189 said:
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Mitsuki is a special case for reasons that are still unknown in the story, he and Hinata are not the same thing at all. Also, even if your right about the Momoshiki case, remember Hinata did try saving Naruto on her own before they could jump to a different time-space and she got offed to the point Sakura had to heal her for a while, so saying she didnt get her chakra taken isn't neccessarily true. But whatever, this isn't my main point.
For all the people saying "Sakura's got much greater destructive capacity", maybe it seems like that because Hinata literally doesn't specialize in destructive capacity? No Hyuga does, not even Neji and this has been brought up here multiple times by me already. The Hyuga clan's taijutsu capabilities aren't focused on causing destructive or external damage like, for example, Rock Lee and Guy's. They explicity cause internal damage with durability-ignoring Taijutsu. Because of this, of course Sakura's going to have better destructive capability showings because thats not what Hinata's abilities focus on. This has been a fact since literally when the Hyuga clan was first introduced.
If people disagree it's their choice but this line of reasoning needs to stop. It doesn't apply here at all.
For all the people saying "Sakura's got much greater destructive capacity", maybe it seems like that because Hinata literally doesn't specialize in destructive capacity? No Hyuga does, not even Neji and this has been brought up here multiple times by me already. The Hyuga clan's taijutsu capabilities aren't focused on causing destructive or external damage like, for example, Rock Lee and Guy's. They explicity cause internal damage with durability-ignoring Taijutsu. Because of this, of course Sakura's going to have better destructive capability showings because thats not what Hinata's abilities focus on. This has been a fact since literally when the Hyuga clan was first introduced.
If people disagree it's their choice but this line of reasoning needs to stop. It doesn't apply here at all.
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Yeah Unknown is the best i can make changes if people agrees
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What should the wording be
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Sasuke has Indra chakra and most likely more than Hinata yet they did not even mention him.Sigurd Snake in The Eye said:
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With all due respect, I vehemently disagree with immediately labeling this as unknown Ant.
I don't agree with the reasoning for it at the moment, I have arguments for why it's wrong and i'd like to discuss it more before we add it to Hinata's page.
I don't agree with the reasoning for it at the moment, I have arguments for why it's wrong and i'd like to discuss it more before we add it to Hinata's page.
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So who all agrees with Unknown?
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I want to wait for Kukui to give his input first as he is usually very insightful and can probably state things better than me.
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Trying to save her husband from getting kidnapped doesn't actually prove anything.ProfessorKukui4Life said:
We know her chakra didn't get taken away simply because none of the Outsutsuki members made a big deal about finding Hamura's chakra.
This would also have been a massive power boost if your implying they did take it which is clearly not the case.
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They had already previously met Sasuke and even know about the events that happened when Kaguya came back if I remember correctly,what would be the purpose of saying he has alot of chakra?Rocker1189 said:
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And they also knew about the events othat happened with Toneri. You are literally the reason I am mentioning it since you brought it up with Hinata.Sigurd Snake in The Eye said:
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"But whatever, this isn't my main point".
Literally dodged this and focused on the bit that wasn't relevant from my reply. That said, Rocker can handle that part given he's mentioned Sasuke in comparison.
Actually make arguments against the stuff that was my main point and then we have a case.
Literally dodged this and focused on the bit that wasn't relevant from my reply. That said, Rocker can handle that part given he's mentioned Sasuke in comparison.
Actually make arguments against the stuff that was my main point and then we have a case.
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The other section of your post had nothing to do with my reasoning for being against it.
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He needed her help because on Hamura's chakra was able to interact with it(or something).BlackeJan said:
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If you give an genin the same power hinata got, would they atomically become as strong as a jonin? No, pretimeskip naruto had a chakra capticity equal to that or greater then Kakashi at that that time....are y'all trying to say that pretimeskip naruto>>>> pretimeskip Kakashi? Based on the logic present yup.
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This is such a trash equivalency. Dude the literal word of genin/jonin/chunin means nothing about power. If a genin got her chakra and showed 7-A power then of course we would rate the genin as 7-A. You are saying it as if Genin means High 8-C or 8-B or whatever. It does not. Naruto was a specifically not verty good ninja when he was younger. and actually he did have the potential to beat pre time skip Kakashi but only in chakra mode.Peter "Quicksilver" Maximoff said:
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You can't say this. Hinata Prior to the Last didn't have Six Paths Chakra.IMadeThisOn8-1-2017 said:
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This is such a trash equivalency. Dude the literal word of genin/jonin/chunin means nothing about power. If a genin got her chakra and showed 7-A power then of course we would rate the genin as 7-A. You are saying it as if Genin means High 8-C or 8-B or whatever. It does not. Naruto was a specifically not verty good ninja when he was younger. and actually he did have the potential to beat pre time skip Kakashi but only in chakra mode.
I'm just using what you guys are portraying.
I'm just using what you guys are portraying.
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Well you are doing a bad job of it.Peter "Quicksilver" Maximoff said:
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And you can have all the potential and even reach said potential in the world but fail to beat your enemy, this is very common in fiction. Kakashi would wreck one tailed pretime skip naruto anyday of the week.
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Pretime skip Kakashi would not, not easily, he might win but it would be a hard fight. Not that it matters because this is not the same thing at all.Peter "Quicksilver" Maximoff said:
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And exactly why are we using ninja class rankings to argue against this? Especially when the main character has been a genin his entire life before leveling up to Hokage?Peter "Quicksilver" Maximoff said:
Plus, this is a false equivalancy to Hinata and Sakura's case. Simply having a lot of chakra doesnt mean your stronger than other ninja, it's made extremely clear in Naruto that power isn't the only factor but ability, experience and skillset, which Kakashi from your example vastly outclasses Naruto in.
Also, we aren't saying more chakra means more power. TFO has had to mention this over 10 times now.
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Okay, so the basis of your assumption for 7-A Hinata is "Chakra Control" which is also fallacious because Hinata has never once demonstrated putting much Chakra into her Jutsu for higher AP. Thus why she should be at Unknown until we do get actual feats that give her an actual tier. We literally don't know what level she is at since she has only demonstrated having more Chakra than the likes of Sakura and could poor Chakra into another person faster than Sakura.ProfessorKukui4Life said:
This doesn't tell us anything about her AP, destructive capacity, lifting strength, striking strength, durability nor speed. It's all unknown to us until we get an actual feat of her using that new found Chakra.
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