High School DxD Universe Discussion Thread

[MasqueTLDF]

Well your effort is great at least. Isn't that like, way too many keys for Issei?

Edit: As for the BG weaknesses, aren't those only from the early volumes? Neither Issei nor Ddraig or Euclid have been shown with some of those weaknesses, like losing power when they get hit by an attack.

Issei has a lot of power ups and his training does major increases for his base strength. It's either this or making multiple profiles for LN Issei. (Or I could maybe use Tabbers?)

There's nothing in the series that indicates that those weaknesses ever disappear. The inconsistent Boost Strength is even mentioned in Volume 16. They only lose the Boosted Power, it's the "Reset" sound that the Boosted Gear makes. The overload thing refers to the "Burst" sound of the Boosted Gear. And the damage thing is dependent on the durability of the user.

 

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

Issei has a lot of power ups and his training does major increases for his base strength. It's either this or making multiple profiles for LN Issei. (Or I could maybe use Tabbers?)

There's nothing in the series that indicates that those weaknesses ever disappear. The inconsistent Boost Strength is even mentioned in Volume 16. They only lose the Boosted Power, it's the "Reset" sound that the Boosted Gear makes. The overload thing refers to the "Burst" sound of the Boosted Gear. And the damage thing is dependent on the durability of the user.

Yes, try with tabbers for the Attack Potency part. It's hard for me to understand what's happening there. Also, are you downscaling base Issei from his BxB or CxC armours? If so, why?

Not inconsistent Boost strength, but the part where he loses the boosted power once he gets damaged. Technically hasn't been shown even when we see Issei knocked out or seriously wounded. There's no hard indication either way ig.

Issei hasn't reached a Burst state since the earlier volumes, but yeah.

 

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

Then there's the Statistics Values reference that everyone's adding to profiles now. Wasn't done last time I was around but it seems important now

 

[Qliphoth_Bacikal]

I noticed that's been a thing for profiles like of Bleach, but it's kinda confusing and hard for me to turn that over in on profiles.

Not exactly big on doing big numbers lol.

 

[MasqueTLDF]

Yes, try with tabbers for the Attack Potency part. It's hard for me to understand what's happening there. Also, are you downscaling base Issei from his BxB or CxC armours? If so, why?

Not inconsistent Boost strength, but the part where he loses the boosted power once he gets damaged. Technically hasn't been shown even when we see Issei knocked out or seriously wounded. There's no hard indication either way ig.

Issei hasn't reached a Burst state since the earlier volumes, but yeah.

Alright. In V2, had the ability to boost 18 times and with 12 was stated to be baseline High Class, his BxB was stated to be the ultimate power of his Sacred Gear at that point (This changes as the ultimate power later becomes CxC, DxD, and AxA.) and he was able to fight Riser. (Far above Rias who's considered a Genius amongst High Class devils thus should be above Baseline.) So it should at least be 2^18x (18 Boosts) his base. The author compares it to Bankai and Super Saiyan (two abilities that have canon multipliers). And the armor is described by Cao Cao to be solidified power surrounding the body, and most of the Boosted Gear's power comes from it's Boost ability so I believe it's accurate to assume it's a variation of that. CxC's multiplier comes from Issei's fight with Sairaorg, it's more of a lowballed multiplier than anything. Issei's BxB with 14 Boosts is equal to Base Sairaorg, WDR and 14 Boosts is stronger than Sairaorg (WDR's stated multiplier is x6), and BxB Sairaorg is stronger than the same WDR Issei while CxC Issei was equal to him. So the multiplier is at least BxB (2^14) x 6 (WDR) x 2^14 (14 Boosts). It's actually pretty simple, probably won't be able to do this for DxD though.

Volume 3:
“It’s the damage caused by the holy-sword. Devils and fallen-angels get their power and existence erased by receiving damage from the holy-sword to their body. If it were a bit deeper, then it would have been critical.”
It was just a graze! Does it take that much power from me that I get down on my knees!?
[Reset!]
The time for the Boosted Gear activation was finished. I also lost the boosted power within my body. My power returned to normal. How could this be!
Volume 3:
It made a howl and it came towards me and Asia! Crap! Should we run!? The boosts won’t get reset as long as I don’t attack and receive any attacks! I had to run while carrying Asia! But it seemed like there was nowhere to run to in a school field like this!

Because in Volume 3, the Boosted Gear started telling him how many Boosts he'll need to defeat an enemy, but iif he still goes beyond his own limit (which he hasn't done since Volume 2) he would be greatly damaged.

 

[MasqueTLDF]

Then there's the Statistics Values reference that everyone's adding to profiles now. Wasn't done last time I was around but it seems important now

Not sure how to use that...

 

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

Not sure how to use that...

Think it's just stating the exact value characters scale to. So, if you say Issei's small country level for vaporizing the mountain, you mention the exact value in teratons as a reference.

If you say Vali scales to Issei, you mention the exact value in biggatons as a reference. Check the Bleach pages and such.

 

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

Alright. In V2, had the ability to boost 18 times and with 12 was stated to be baseline High Class, his BxB was stated to be the ultimate power of his Sacred Gear at that point (This changes as the ultimate power later becomes CxC, DxD, and AxA.) and he was able to fight Riser. (Far above Rias who's considered a Genius amongst High Class devils thus should be above Baseline.) So it should at least be 2^18x (18 Boosts) his base. The author compares it to Bankai and Super Saiyan (two abilities that have canon multipliers). And the armor is described by Cao Cao to be solidified power surrounding the body, and most of the Boosted Gear's power comes from it's Boost ability so I believe it's accurate to assume it's a variation of that. CxC's multiplier comes from Issei's fight with Sairaorg, it's more of a lowballed multiplier than anything. Issei's BxB with 14 Boosts is equal to Base Sairaorg, WDR and 14 Boosts is stronger than Sairaorg (WDR's stated multiplier is x6), and BxB Sairaorg is stronger than the same WDR Issei while CxC Issei was equal to him. So the multiplier is at least BxB (2^14) x 6 (WDR) x 2^14 (14 Boosts). It's actually pretty simple, probably won't be able to do this for DxD though

Not sure we should be downscaling his base form like that tbh. And I mean, current base Issei was stated High-class so that should be taken into account.

His current base can't be stronger than his complete armours at least.

 

[MasqueTLDF]

Not sure we should be downscaling his base form like that tbh. And I mean, current base Issei was stated High-class so that should be taken into account.

His current base can't be stronger than his complete armours at least.

He wasn't just stated to be High Class, his rank was High Class and he tanked an attack that could easily kill one in base. And the tier I have him at for downscaling from CxC results in the same tier as being a High Class would anyway (Island Level-Large Large Island Level) so I believe it's a pretty accurate method.

Current Base is about as strong as his BxB in Volume 2 which I think is acceptable considering Issei trains every Volume and has access to Dragonization.

 

[MasqueTLDF]

Think it's just stating the exact value characters scale to. So, if you say Issei's small country level for vaporizing the mountain, you mention the exact value in teratons as a reference.

If you say Vali scales to Issei, you mention the exact value in biggatons as a reference. Check the Bleach pages and such.

I already implemented Tabbers into the AP section so it should be a bit easier to read, I based it off of Naruto's profile.

I'll work on the statistics values next.

 

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

Funny that Issei as also used Dress Break on guys when they looked like women.

Breast Energy comes from the size of a woman's oppai, Issei doesn't posess any, he just has the power to manipulate it. He can use it to amp himself in which case the resistance would then apply to him but it's only ever a temporary thing. Ig you could say he gets the resistance mid battle if he's fighting woman, then add it to his profile.

Forgot to reply to this, but well, Azazel thought the reason his gender swap gun didn't work on Issei was because he used "an unknown breast power" or something like that.

Speaking of Azazel, I think we could list some of his inventions as optional equipment?

 

[Qliphoth_Bacikal]

Forgot to reply to this, but well, Azazel thought the reason his gender swap gun didn't work on Issei was because he used "an unknown breast power" or something like that.

Speaking of Azazel, I think we could list some of his inventions as optional equipment?

Kek, the gender gun.

I don't see why not.

 

[Qliphoth_Bacikal]

High School DxD - Occult Research Club

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I found out today on Reddit that Slash/Dog Vol 3 is finally completely translated.

Earlier in the week, the ORC Website got updated to put in redirects to the translator's blog site of SD Vol 3's translation (Only up to Chp 3 iirc). As of today if not a couple or so days when I last checked, the rest of the translation on the website itself is translated.

So NOW we have ALL of Slash Dog as of its latest volume translated.

Now here's to waiting on Ishibumi to release Shin 5 and SD 4 owo

 

[MasqueTLDF]

High School DxD - Occult Research Club

occult-research.club

I found out today on Reddit that Slash/Dog Vol 3 is finally completely translated.

Earlier in the week, the ORC Website got updated to put in redirects to the translator's blog site of SD Vol 3's translation (Only up to Chp 3 iirc). As of today if not a couple or so days when I last checked, the rest of the translation on the website itself is translated.

So NOW we have ALL of Slash Dog as of its latest volume translated.

Now here's to waiting on Ishibumi to release Shin 5 and SD 4 owo

Hoping Denpachi gets a full TL too

 

[RenderGK]

High School DxD - Occult Research Club

occult-research.club

I found out today on Reddit that Slash/Dog Vol 3 is finally completely translated.

Earlier in the week, the ORC Website got updated to put in redirects to the translator's blog site of SD Vol 3's translation (Only up to Chp 3 iirc). As of today if not a couple or so days when I last checked, the rest of the translation on the website itself is translated.

So NOW we have ALL of Slash Dog as of its latest volume translated.

Now here's to waiting on Ishibumi to release Shin 5 and SD 4 owo

oh

 

[MasqueTLDF]

Forgot to reply to this, but well, Azazel thought the reason his gender swap gun didn't work on Issei was because he used "an unknown breast power" or something like that.

Speaking of Azazel, I think we could list some of his inventions as optional equipment?

Nyuutron Beam Cannon is a breast power but Issei doesn't use his own power for it per se. I think it;s good to draw the distinction between breast power (the energy within Women's breasts) and breast power (Abilities related to breasts used by Issei). Kinda like how Demonic Power can be used to refer to both House specific abilities like Time, Worthless, and PoD, or the basic energy that flows throughout devils. DxD has a lot of instances like this where a phrase can have multiple meanings.

BLAZER SHINING AURA DARKNESS BLADE

 

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

Hoping Denpachi gets a full TL too

Yeah. But it's translated on a spanish/portuguese site. I was actually thinking of making pages for it back in the day. They can't scale to DxD because it's a parallel world but they have superhuman feats with low level players making large craters and such, which is typically small building level at least (?).

I guess they'd be wall level at minimum. I'd have to read the novel again to understand the scaling better. There's not many feats there IIRC.

 

[Qliphoth_Bacikal]

Qliphoth Bacikal/Sandbox1

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Reposting this again.

I would ASSUME I got just about everyone of relevancy...More or less.

There could possibly some more I think we could possibly add. There's Satanael, a Cadre of the Fallen who only appears in Slash Dog so far and probably has some stuff to do if possible. I PROBABLY think some of Issei's future kids from EX could work but IDK where they'd fall under. Maybe something like "Crimson Dragon Emperor's Children" or something... Benemue I would have added to the list possibly but I'm kinda unsure on her until Junior possibly expands on anything new with her that isn't anything similar to what the rest of the Fallen have done. There's also those artificial-made Trasncendent-Class/Satan-Class Devils I remember that fought in the tournament or something too like Balberith and Verrine but didn't really think much to add them. Though they are powerful and got some feats to hold so it's something to consider there.

Some things to note here:

• I put Wukong onto a new tab for Buddhas under "God and Buddha" as they seem to be of similar standing in terms of existence or whatever by how HSDxD Wiki list them. Otherwise they can just be their own section. Either or doesn't make much difference to me.
• I had thought to consider maybe adding the Evies for their own section as either "ExE Gods", "Evies" or even just "Other" but aside from some off-screen fights, statements, short fights, and some other stuff, I really can't see many of them even viable to be made beyond one hand.

Anything else besides this, aside from having to update even just the power of verse part if that Boosted Gear CRT gets made, and it should be about done to update the verse page finally.

 

[MasqueTLDF]

Qliphoth Bacikal/Sandbox1

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Reposting this again.

I would ASSUME I got just about everyone of relevancy...More or less.

There could possibly some more I think we could possibly add. There's Satanael, a Cadre of the Fallen who only appears in Slash Dog so far and probably has some stuff to do if possible. I PROBABLY think some of Issei's future kids from EX could work but IDK where they'd fall under. Maybe something like "Crimson Dragon Emperor's Children" or something... Benemue I would have added to the list possibly but I'm kinda unsure on her until Junior possibly expands on anything new with her that isn't anything similar to what the rest of the Fallen have done. There's also those artificial-made Trasncendent-Class/Satan-Class Devils I remember that fought in the tournament or something too like Balberith and Verrine but didn't really think much to add them. Though they are powerful and got some feats to hold so it's something to consider there.

Some things to note here:

• I put Wukong onto a new tab for Buddhas under "God and Buddha" as they seem to be of similar standing in terms of existence or whatever by how HSDxD Wiki list them. Otherwise they can just be their own section. Either or doesn't make much difference to me.
• I had thought to consider maybe adding the Evies for their own section as either "ExE Gods", "Evies" or even just "Other" but aside from some off-screen fights, statements, short fights, and some other stuff, I really can't see many of them even viable to be made beyond one hand.

Anything else besides this, aside from having to update even just the power of verse part if that Boosted Gear CRT gets made, and it should be about done to update the verse page finally.

Think this looks very good. Nice job man! (Also, Mitsuya Kanzaki does have some images available which I think would make his section a bit nicer)

 

[Qliphoth_Bacikal]

Think this looks very good. Nice job man! (Also, Mitsuya Kanzaki does have some images available which I think would make his section a bit nicer)

What images? The one from Denpachi?

 

[MasqueTLDF]

What images? The one from Denpachi?

Yeah, although they're from different series, it's still the same character.

 

[MasqueTLDF]

I suppose I'll leave links to some of the sandboxes (I'll update this list with more as I progress) I'm working on as well in case anyone wants to check them out. They of course are all still WIPs.
Boost Multiplier Blog (Can find most of the general revised tiering information here. Although the Blog is pretty long, it's very detailed.)

Proving the consistency of Issei Hyoudou's Boost multiplier

vsbattles.fandom.com

Issei Sandbox

MasqueTLDF/Sandbox1

vsbattles.fandom.com

Rias Sandbox

MasqueTLDF/Sandbox Rias Gremory

vsbattles.fandom.com

Riser Sandbox

MasqueTLDF/Sandbox Riser Phenex

vsbattles.fandom.com

 

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

Qliphoth Bacikal/Sandbox1

vsbattles.fandom.com

Reposting this again.

I would ASSUME I got just about everyone of relevancy...More or less.

There could possibly some more I think we could possibly add. There's Satanael, a Cadre of the Fallen who only appears in Slash Dog so far and probably has some stuff to do if possible. I PROBABLY think some of Issei's future kids from EX could work but IDK where they'd fall under. Maybe something like "Crimson Dragon Emperor's Children" or something... Benemue I would have added to the list possibly but I'm kinda unsure on her until Junior possibly expands on anything new with her that isn't anything similar to what the rest of the Fallen have done. There's also those artificial-made Trasncendent-Class/Satan-Class Devils I remember that fought in the tournament or something too like Balberith and Verrine but didn't really think much to add them. Though they are powerful and got some feats to hold so it's something to consider there.

Some things to note here:

• I put Wukong onto a new tab for Buddhas under "God and Buddha" as they seem to be of similar standing in terms of existence or whatever by how HSDxD Wiki list them. Otherwise they can just be their own section. Either or doesn't make much difference to me.
• I had thought to consider maybe adding the Evies for their own section as either "ExE Gods", "Evies" or even just "Other" but aside from some off-screen fights, statements, short fights, and some other stuff, I really can't see many of them even viable to be made beyond one hand.

Anything else besides this, aside from having to update even just the power of verse part if that Boosted Gear CRT gets made, and it should be about done to update the verse page finally.

Great work.

But actually... shouldn't we make a separate group for Issei's peerage and Rias' peerage? Xenovia has a peerage too. Balberith, Verrine and Nimura are part of xenovia's peerage while Bennia is now with Issei and Rugal Bernstein is with Rias. IDK but it's something to consider.

Aside from that, Evies can have their own section. I think Galvaldan and Ruma Idra did enough to get pages in EX. It could have different tabbers to separate the commanders. For example, Galvaldan and Ruma Idra are part of the Invade Fanatics.

For Slash Dog, there's the new youkai Inugami and Soranaki. They can fall under youkai. Satanael has the Abyss Team but we haven't seen the important members.

Exorcists can have David Cerro included.

There could also be a Wizards of Oz section. Augusta can get a page when the scaling is done.

That's all I can think of.

 

[Qliphoth_Bacikal]

Great work.

But actually... shouldn't we make a separate group for Issei's peerage and Rias' peerage? Xenovia has a peerage too. Balberith, Verrine and Nimura are part of xenovia's peerage while Bennia is now with Issei and Rugal Bernstein is with Rias. IDK but it's something to consider.

Aside from that, Evies can have their own section. I think Galvaldan and Ruma Idra did enough to get pages in EX. It could have different tabbers to separate the commanders. For example, Galvaldan and Ruma Idra are part of the Invade Fanatics.

For Slash Dog, there's the new youkai Inugami and Soranaki. They can fall under youkai. Satanael has the Abyss Team but we haven't seen the important members.

Exorcists can have David Cerro included.

There could also be a Wizards of Oz section. Augusta can get a page when the scaling is done.

That's all I can think of.

I thought about that over and over but just never really bothered to. Although in that sense, it works considering Ravel is part of Issei's peerage as is Ingvild who I can put on there. Though I kinda think some will be shifted around as Xeno having her own peerage means she gets moved around there while Rias had Asia and Ross switched over to Issei's iirc. Loup Garou is also part of Rias Peerage currently too so there's that.

Probably. Though only like those two + the top pillars of the Evies would be viable even though the last of the pillars we haven't seen, Seraselbas, isn't known much except being right around her brother's power level.

Ah, true. Satanael can, but IDK about his team yet.

Right for the rest of the other chars and section, as is Augusta.

But aside from those and adding a bit more like Ingvild, I think that's about it.

 

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

I thought about that over and over but just never really bothered to. Although in that sense, it works considering Ravel is part of Issei's peerage as is Ingvild who I can put on there. Though I kinda think some will be shifted around as Xeno having her own peerage means she gets moved around there while Rias had Asia and Ross switched over to Issei's iirc. Loup Garou is also part of Rias Peerage currently too so there's that.

Probably. Though only like those two + the top pillars of the Evies would be viable even though the last of the pillars we haven't seen, Seraselbas, isn't known much except being right around her brother's power level.

Ah, true. Satanael can, but IDK about his team yet.

Right for the rest of the other chars and section, as is Augusta.

But aside from those and adding a bit more like Ingvild, I think that's about it.

Oh yeah, we know about some of Melvazoa’s abilities so he could get a page. Although probably too vague for versus matches as he has not appeared.

You know, it’s funny how we already know some of his abilities but nothing on the likes of Shiva. Lol.

And yeah, any others missing can be added later by checking the wiki or something.

 

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

I suppose I'll leave links to some of the sandboxes (I'll update this list with more as I progress) I'm working on as well in case anyone wants to check them out. They of course are all still WIPs.
Boost Multiplier Blog (Can find most of the general revised tiering information here. Although the Blog is pretty long, it's very detailed.)

Proving the consistency of Issei Hyoudou's Boost multiplier

vsbattles.fandom.com

Issei Sandbox

MasqueTLDF/Sandbox1

vsbattles.fandom.com

Rias Sandbox

MasqueTLDF/Sandbox Rias Gremory

vsbattles.fandom.com

Riser Sandbox

MasqueTLDF/Sandbox Riser Phenex

vsbattles.fandom.com

For your small country level rating of Issei vaporizing the mountain, you didn't link evidence of the mountains being in the Fuji range. I think you could make a separate blog or something for that with the relevant scans? Not sure.

Edit: Oh, you're using the scene where Issei describes a mountain bigger than Mt Fuji in the Gremory territory.

Before I forget, the Dimensional Gap resistance should be changed when we start adding/removing new abilities and resistances.

As I am not sure whether it qualifies as death manipulation instead of void manipulation

 

[MasqueTLDF]

For your small country level rating of Issei vaporizing the mountain, you didn't link evidence of the mountains being in the Fuji range. I think you could make a separate blog or something for that with the relevant scans? Not sure.

Edit: Oh, you're using the scene where Issei describes a mountain bigger than Mt Fuji in the Gremory territory.

Before I forget, the Dimensional Gap resistance should be changed when we start adding/removing new abilities and resistances.

As I am not sure whether it qualifies as death manipulation instead of void manipulation

There was a reference cited, number 55. I could do additions to the other Mountain feat blog just for ease of access but I don't think that's necessary.

 

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

There was a reference cited, number 55. I could do additions to the other Mountain feat blog just for ease of access but I don't think that's necessary.

Might be worth it to compile multiple shots of the Gremory mountains being similar in size and evidence of vaporization etc.

 

[Qliphoth_Bacikal]

Oh yeah, we know about some of Melvazoa’s abilities so he could get a page. Although probably too vague for versus matches as he has not appeared.

You know, it’s funny how we already know some of his abilities but nothing on the likes of Shiva. Lol.

And yeah, any others missing can be added later by checking the wiki or something.

I like how BS that is considering he's the leader of the Evies and thus should be the strongest of them all, and Issei and co's strongest boss to beat. And he's still haven't even shown up yet. Only his brother and their underlings have shown up either in EX or in the main series, and those guys are >= Great Red tier, and Great Red's power used by Issei's incomplete AxA had the power to destroy planets, and a fight between GR and 666 could have destroyed all of the known worlds of DxD...I think. Which isn't far off if 666 could already wreck 5 floors of Heaven in one attack, and also do the same to various mytho worlds of the gods to boot. And IIRC even, Great Red's so OP it would have been auto top of Top 10 if it wasn't so unmotivated to do anything from what Ishi said about it lol.

But deadass, it's funny how we know of Melvazoa despite not showing up personally in either main canon series or EX, yet someone like Shiva appeared but we dk shit about what he can do xD

Like literally this alone makes them impressive for not showing up yet at all lol:

Spoiler: HS DxD EX, Top Secret

It would appear that in the world of thirty years from now there is the possibility of war due to an invasion by the malevolent god Melvazoa of 'ExE (Evih Etoulde)' and his underlings.

• The malevolent god Malvezoa's fighting strength far exceeds that of Ophis (complete form) as well as Great Red.
• Due to him being invulnerable and having transcended death (him being able to manipulate reincarnation techniques as well as the concept of existence itself, being able to interfere with himself from parallel worlds, manipulate time etc., he is thus able to preserve "himself" as much as he likes), the fight between the good and evil gods has become a battle in which the good god Resetoras seeks supremacy without completely overthrowing Malvezoa.
• It appears that, in regards to the damage done to this world due to the interference by the main forces of Malvezoa's side, it has already reached unprecedented levels. Moreover, apart from Malvezoa himself, to oppose all of the malevolent god's underlings, the seven divinities of the 'Ragou Shichiyou'[1], the necessary war preparations are presently hopeless.
• For the malevolent god Malvazoa, there are a pair of divinities who are considered to be his older brother and younger sister. The older brother is the fierce god Regalzerva, the younger sister is the evil spirit Seraselbes. Even by themselves they wield power that is not inferior to that of Malvezoa.
• For the fierce god Regalzerva there exist two underling divinities called 'Keito Tenkai'. [2]
• There are numerous mysteries surrounding the evil spirit Seraselbes's underlings, their precise number not being known, with only five divinities having been confirmed.
• In the case where the malevolent god, fierce god, and evil spirit divinity trio belonging to 'ExE (Evih Etoulde)' and their underlings were to attack together, without even having to consider, there's no mistaking that the Earth would be destroyed——.

 

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

We also have to see how strong the characters from FxF are. IIRC, Regalzeva said some of the creatures resemble dragons but they don’t have intelligence so they’re probably just strong but animalistic in nature.

Only thing I remember about Shiva is Hades saying Shiva would completely erase him or something, so maybe he has erasure abilities. I’m interested in seeing how many weapons he uses too.

 

[Lord_Farquaad69420]

Anyone gonna scale to the cosmology if it gets accepted?

 

[MasqueTLDF]

Anyone gonna scale to the cosmology if it gets accepted?

Ophis, Great Red, Trihexa, Melvazoa, Seraselbes, Regalzeva, the strongest member of the Ragou Shichou, and possibly Resetoras. (Along with a large amount of anime characters, most of which aside from the major ones won't receive profiles.)

 

[Lord_Farquaad69420]

Ophis, Great Red, Trihexa, Melvazoa, Seraselbes, Regalzeva, the strongest member of the Ragou Shichou, and possibly Resetoras. (Along with a large amount of anime characters, most of which aside from the major ones won't receive profiles.)

Would issei scale (haven’t read/watched DxD, I’m just curious where the booby anime scales)

 

[MasqueTLDF]

Would issei scale (haven’t read/watched DxD, I’m just curious where the booby anime scales)

Anime version yeah, LN version would cap somewhere around 4-A

 

[SCARECROW1983]

Anime version yeah, LN version would cap somewhere around 4-A

I was looking at the cosmological scale and isn't issei LN should not scale to H3-A at least? I was even looking at some of the LN stuff and shouldn't it scale even higher? I have that doubt.

 

[MasqueTLDF]

I was looking at the cosmological scale and isn't issei LN should not scale to H3-A at least? I was even looking at some of the LN stuff and shouldn't it scale even higher? I have that doubt.

Although I'd like to agree, it'd throw off the rest of the upcoming CRT. You can share your arguments here now and we can discuss but if you would be so kind as to wait until after the next CRT (yet to be published) is finished, I'd really appreciate it. As things stand, I'm currently disagreeing with a High 3-A rating but that could change depending on any contradictions or inconsistencies within the story or scaling.

 

[SCARECROW1983]

Although I'd like to agree, it'd throw off the rest of the upcoming CRT. You can share your arguments here now and we can discuss but if you would be so kind as to wait until after the next CRT (yet to be published) is finished, I'd really appreciate it. As things stand, I'm currently disagreeing with a High 3-A rating but that could change depending on any contradictions or inconsistencies within the story or scaling.

Ok, I'll wait for the next CRT and explain why H3-A or more if that would be ok, that's the only thing I disagree with.

 

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

Ophis, Great Red, Trihexa, Melvazoa, Seraselbes, Regalzeva, the strongest member of the Ragou Shichou, and possibly Resetoras. (Along with a large amount of anime characters, most of which aside from the major ones won't receive profiles.)

If you’re mentioning Resetoras, then you should include Chichigami. They are the pillar gods of the Etoulde side and both factions are equal. So they are far stronger than the Ragou Shichiou and Keito Tenkai. Resetoras & Chichigami should at least be equal to Melvazoa and the rest since they are in an eternal stalemate.

Speaking of the Keito Tenkai, they are both equal to Great Red.

Also, I think I get the gist of your other scaling but where does 4-A for Issei in particular come from? Recall that Ishibumi said AxA is in the strongest class of firepower and defense in the whole series as of Shin DxD 3. So I doubt it’s magnitudes weaker than the DGs, although it’s still imperfect.

 

[MasqueTLDF]

If you’re mentioning Resetoras, then you should include Chichigami. They are the pillar gods of the Etoulde side and both factions are equal. So they are far stronger than the Ragou Shichiou and Keito Tenkai. Resetoras & Chichigami should at least be equal to Melvazoa and the rest since they are in an eternal stalemate.

Speaking of the Keito Tenkai, they are both equal to Great Red.

Also, I think I get the gist of your other scaling but where does 4-A for Issei in particular come from? Recall that Ishibumi said AxA is in the strongest class of firepower and defense in the whole series as of Shin DxD 3. So I doubt it’s magnitudes weaker than the DGs, although it’s still imperfect.

Yeah I just didn't include her since she's not exactly a combat type God, Chimune Chipaoti isn't known to do any fighting from what we've seen, her main thing is just talking to Issei through his mind whereas Resetoras has this statement "the fight between the good and evil gods has become a battle in which the good god Resetoras seeks supremacy without completely overthrowing Malvezoa.". Even this doesn't alone prove his strength as they do have soldiers, and unlike Resetoras, Chimune Chipaoti doesn't have any such statement.

Good to keep in mind, ExE Gods have so many different kinds of soldiers that it's hard to keep track.

4-A via Boosts in his later forms. The strongest class statement either refers to Dragon God Class or the Top 10 (Both are kinda the same tho), Shiva has statements of being able to hold back Full Body Trihexa (although unable to win) and iirc AxA has a similar statement. Shiva being around #2 strongest in DxD (without Great Red and Trihexa). I'd order Dragon God Class as being Tartarus?<AxA Issei<Shiva<God?<Infinite Ophis<Trihexa<Great Red, so either way he would be in the strongest classes. Issei might actually be able to get a 2-A rating with AxA although I'm not sure how I feel about that, Ig I'll see after I reread Shin 3. Shin 5 will definitely clear this up though.

 

[Qliphoth_Bacikal]

Yeah I just didn't include her since she's not exactly a combat type God, Chimune Chipaoti isn't known to do any fighting from what we've seen, her main thing is just talking to Issei through his mind whereas Resetoras has this statement "the fight between the good and evil gods has become a battle in which the good god Resetoras seeks supremacy without completely overthrowing Malvezoa.". Even this doesn't alone prove his strength as they do have soldiers, and unlike Resetoras, Chimune Chipaoti doesn't have any such statement.

Good to keep in mind, ExE Gods have so many different kinds of soldiers that it's hard to keep track.

4-A via Boosts in his later forms. The strongest class statement either refers to Dragon God Class or the Top 10 (Both are kinda the same tho), Shiva has statements of being able to hold back Full Body Trihexa (although unable to win) and iirc AxA has a similar statement. Shiva being around #2 strongest in DxD (without Great Red and Trihexa). I'd order Dragon God Class as being Tartarus?<AxA Issei<Shiva<God?<Infinite Ophis<Trihexa<Great Red, so either way he would be in the strongest classes. Issei might actually be able to get a 2-A rating with AxA although I'm not sure how I feel about that, Ig I'll see after I reread Shin 3. Shin 5 will definitely clear this up though.

Breast Goddess is all about them t*****s, after all.

And yeah...

Speaking of ExE Gods, I'm kinda still of the opinion that Ishibumi really jumped the gun on adding these new guys into the mix. Technically they sorta aren't new ish since Chimune did sorta appear ish way back in Vol 7 during the Norse Gods visit/Loki confrontation arc. But it's kinda so off putting to add these guys in a setting where we know very little about the majority of them. The Etouldes especially so cuz at least the Evies, we got names of them through Ishi's blog and even how strong they are, with even the weakest named/unknown of the 3 Evie pillar's underlings being like top Maou class or whatever they were, and the strongest one is GR tier or above.

Speaking of this in terms of plot and setting, it's kinda jarring af in a lot of ways. Moreso the fact that the DxD world couldn't even kill Trihexa or try to seal it, and they're only equal to Infinite/Pre-Nerf/Complete Ophis and Great Red, and GR is practically fodder to the likes of Regalzeva(?).