Giving the Sling Rings a tier is kinda wack seeing as they deal damage through space manipulation
Doctor Strange (Marvel Cinematic Universe)
Doctor Strange (real name Stephen Vincent Strange) is the main protagonist of the 2016 film Doctor Strange. Originally a very accomplished yet arrogant neurosurgeon, Strange suffered severe nerve damage to his hands in a car accident, rendering him incapable of continuing his work. When all...vsbattles.fandom.com
It was revealed to me in a dream
The first one is only a frontal view of Asgard, no?
Rear view actually, as the concept art puts it on the far rear, but it's not on the width, the Palace is lined parallel to the length. So the movie version is also a full view.
...I'm confused
I thought the palace was at the front of Asgard and when the ship arrived, they basically arrived at the rainbow bridge area and the front of the palaceThat's true
It was something along these lines
Defo, either we use What If or we don't
Their demeanor is a tad sweaty but I agree
I say we don't until
Sorcerer Supreme Strange's feats in What If were used because he was identical to his canonical self
Iman Vellani really is the authority on canon now
I mean you could say the same of Thanos, Cull, the Avengers in the Yellowjacket episode or any number of characters who appear. It's still picking and choosing what to use for the sake of feats
Avengers in the Yellowjacket episode got killed in ways that weren't contradictory so I don't see why they're an example
No it isn't, Cull fighting Thanos the way he does makes no sense and that's just from the top of my head. We need to make a decision to either take What If? as seriously applicable to the main canon or not. We can't just pick and choose scaling the way we do rn
Thanos getting overpowered by Proxima Midnight, the same person who was defeated by Okoye, beating up Thanos was pure PIS
Agreed. It's a rather slippery slope. I generally think that the What If... should be used for scaling and that variants should be comparable to each other, though there should be some exceptions, because some of the episodes just have PIS when it comes to the power of some characters.
I agree
I agree, my point is we see this kind of PIS quite a bit in the What If? series that could needlessly convolute the scaling of the MCU
He's still a millennia old guy with the same training and almost the same experience to back so he should be just as strong
I mean the issue is that Captain Marvel in MoM has literally no other scaling then to Wanda and all we know is that the Wanda from MoM is sub Scarlet Witch (Which in fairness half the verse is). That's a very different premise then scaling Variants to one another because "oh they're the same character" and I'm not entirely sure if that's the best approach
He stepped down from being a warlord and did nothing but garden. I don't see how doing that would keep him as tough as his more violent selves, who slaughter planets on a regular basis.
That just makes him rusty, I don't see why it would make him physically weaker
Realistically that's still not going to explain his physical strength weakening. Skill? Sure. But his physical strength has no reason to decrease to such a massive extent. Going by the Captain Marvel scaling from the Ultron episode a Prime Thanos should at least backscale from roughly 14-20 Teratons of TNT equivalent, his performance against Cull implies a 10X loss of power if we assume Cull stays within the Large Island category (which he prolly should imo, only real scaling above this is his fight against Iron Man who is clearly sub Thanos somewhat). I can buy Thanos not being as dangerous as he once was thanks to a lack of training and loss of killer instinct but it's still quite a stretch
To be fair, I don't blame the writers for not being able to precisely consider the yields of the feats they animate. Captain Marvel's feat just yields a value they had no reason to think would be that absurdly high
Cull will still end up somewhat scaling to Thanos since Iron Man could still take hits from and somewhat harm Thanos even if he is weaker, and Cull could clash against and begin to overpower Tony
This is partly my whole issue with the elseworld scaling. We're talking about not only attempting to keep consistent about 15 years worth of content including about 35 movies, about 9 or 10 series via television or streaming, several comic books, a handful of guidebooks and god knows what other tie in media exist and then working in tons of alternate continuities via What If?, Marvel Zombies, a possible Captain Carter series and god knows what else is out there exploring the multiverse. It's unnecessarily making the task difficult and I doubt the creators of these works are even going to try being consistent with the power scaling of characters from alternate continuities.
1) SMH I know 2) I'd suggest that Tony should backscale tbh, he's able to harm Thanos but it takes absolutely everything he has to even draw blood with Thanos eventually ripping apart the armour without much issue. So Large Island - Large Island+ but I think we shouldn't put them in the same weight class as the Mad Titan if that makes sense. Mark L Iron Man in Endgame should scale tho
Whether to use What If scaling or not
