- 6,766
- 6,682
If the limit is 10 teratons, then it's still possible to scale to Ikaris' 1.22 teratons
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I agree with that tbhIf the limit is 10 teratons, then it's still possible to scale to Ikaris' 1.22 teratons
eh maybe but we’ve called it how many times now?I guess that’s fair, but even if we use it as a cap, the size of Asgard and the explosion stuff still needs to be recalced
huh thought it was, might be somewhere else but I saw KLOL bring it up. Maybe in the Discussion ThreadI've been here this entire thread. It's not here
tbh is Thor even an Avenger rn? Like man is out in space doing shit and prolly will retire soonI mean, when the next Avengers movie eventually rolls around, you know that all the top tier are either going to be somewhat comparable to each other, or somewhat scaling to whoever the next big bad is, who should logically pose a threat to all of them.
tbh is Thor even an Avenger rn? Like man is out in space doing shit and prolly will retire soon
We do know she's still not in her prime when she gets one-shotted by Surtur so there is that.Hell you could go further, notice how Hela actually somewhat harms Surtur with her Necroblades and the fact we know both somewhat scale to Odin at his prime. I'm not saying Hela is > Surtur but it's clear Surtur isn't just hundreds or even dozens of times stronger then she is (especially when she's amped by Asgard). And he'd need to be far above Hela to endure this blast that we know oneshot her, it's twisting the context to argue it isn't a cap
Then again, Thor needed Surtur just to beat Hela. Which shows he ain't above 10 teratonsWe do know she's still not in her prime when she gets one-shotted by Surtur so there is that.
Earth as a high-end just uses the standard surface wiping calc for ground-based boom LOL, 646 petatons of TNT (High 6-A).KLOL I request that you calculate the Love and Thunder feat with the Moon as a mid-end and the Earth as a high-end
I figured the results would be High 6-A. Thanks.Earth as a high-end just uses the standard surface wiping calc for ground-burst LOL, 646 petatons of TNT (High 6-A).
Moon...
Moon circumference is 10921000 m (Larger than Pluto). Half that is 5460500 m, our explosion radius.
W= 5460500^3*((27136*1.37895+8649)^(1/2)/13568-93/13568)^2= 1.3085272e+16 tons of TNT, 13.085272 petatons of TNT or 5.4748778048e+25 J (High 6-A, Multi-Continent level)
Wich would make Gorr (if that's him performing the feat) High 6-AEarth as a high-end just uses the standard surface wiping calc for ground-based boom LOL, 646 petatons of TNT (High 6-A).
Moon...
Moon circumference is 10921000 m (Larger than Pluto). Half that is 5460500 m, our explosion radius.
W= 5460500^3*((27136*1.37895+8649)^(1/2)/13568-93/13568)^2= 1.3085272e+16 tons of TNT, 13.085272 petatons of TNT or 5.4748778048e+25 J (High 6-A, Multi-Continent level)
Thor is the one performing the featWich would make Gorr (if that's him performing the feat) High 6-A
It's lightning, so it's probably gonna be Thor, but Gorr would still scaleWich would make Gorr (if that's him performing the feat) High 6-A
I mean she’s still not overwhelmingly weaker then Surtur which is my main pointWe do know she's still not in her prime when she gets one-shotted by Surtur so there is that.
So "Not in her Prime" Hela is not overwhelmingly weaker than "Palace Size" Surtur?I mean she’s still not overwhelmingly weaker then Surtur which is my main point
Maybe. Or maybe the Necrosword has lightning powers or can absorb energy, we're not sureIt's lightning, so it's probably gonna be Thor, but Gorr would still scale
Does this mean anything for Hela?Her power comes from Asgard, same as yours. When it grew beyond Odin's control, she massacred everyone in the palace and tried to seize the throne. When she tried to escape her banishment, he sent the Valkyrie to fight her back.
Basically, she’s able to pierce his skin with the NecroSwordsSo "Not in her Prime" Hela is not overwhelmingly weaker than "Palace Size" Surtur?
Her violent appetites grew beyond my control. I couldn't stop her, so I imprisoned her. Locked her awa
She draws her strength from Asgard... and once she gets there, her powers will be limitless
@1:40
Does this mean anything for Hela?
@1:53
Was Taika wearing anything to enhance his proportions? But then again, Surtur has bigger musculature than Taika.Hmmmmmm, I am not sure whose body to use for Surtur's proportions, but Taika Waititi mocapped him. Should I use Taika's proportions then?
Or should I just wing it and use 30.5% body height for bottom of feet to knee? Since even Giant Surtur isn't overwhelmingly different from a normal human save for the head?
Did what I post give a plausible explanation to why we generally assume Hela wasn't at her peak during Ragnarok?Why do we assume Hela isn't at her prime in the final battle? Because she spent milenias in her prison and we say she was still recovering?
That claim seems to be more motivational if anythingTbh if anything I think the difference between Awakened Thor and Prime Odin isn’t that crazy, especially since doesn’t he claim he’s as strong as him?
Some people interpret it as Odin saying that Awakened Thor was stronger than the current Odin, since Prime Odin beat Surtur when he had the Eternal FlameTbh if anything I think the difference between Awakened Thor and Prime Odin isn’t that crazy, especially since doesn’t he claim he’s as strong as him?
Eh idk Odin has hax like power null that could explain the W he took way back when, it doesn’t necessarily have to be via raw powerSome people interpret it as Odin saying that Awakened Thor was stronger than the current Odin, since Prime Odin beat Surtur when he had the Eternal Flame
Prime Odin > Eternal Flame Surtur => Not Peak Hela => Awakened Thor
that’s my thing, by statements he’ll have surpassed Odin by Love and Thunder at least and by statements he’s been there since Ragnarok.Although that claim clearly wasn't untrue in the long run given what Thor's gonna crank in this next movie
That statement meant nothing since it ****** with scalingthat’s my thing, by statements he’ll have surpassed Odin by Love and Thunder at least and by statements he’s been there since Ragnarok.
...there's something that's strangely becoming consistent in the MCU when it comes to gods...
Egyptian Gods lets use Konshu for example for obvious reasons is At least 5-B, up to 4-A but having moon shit and star shit specifically
Thor and Zeus for that matter both gods ofc sill have shit that's lowballed at least 6-A+(if we use pluto) but for all intensive purposes we'll say High 6-A something that could greatly affect the moon(in a similar vein to konshu though obviously the latter has a better feat)
Now Prime Surtur has a what 6-B or low 6-B destruction feat from him destroying asguard with us knowing that Odin slapped him up in his prime so Odin likely could be much higher in his prime(could potentially be 6-A+ or high 6-A depending on any new statements that we may or may not get) however the kicker with Odin that Thor doesn't have is that damn Star feat we've been neglecting for forever but as of the celestials and egyptian gods we've seen two seperate types of gods now who have some control over stars to some extent and considering the now 6-A+/high 6-A shit with Thor and Zeus being a moon feat similar to some konshu shit on top of him for sure being above Surtur who could destroy asguard in 1 strike in his prime it makes me wonde about the validity of us ignoring Odin having star shit and being potentially around the same level as this Thor in his prime if not though he should still be objectively above surtur whose gonna be "at least high 6-C" anyways
Stg if we get any statements or see any other gods have star shit we're revising odin because it'd be absolutely ridiculous to not take his feats seriously (already feeling like it is a little ridiculous tbh)
******* even ego is even 6-A durability wise and is High 6-B with his expansion like bruh idk
The gods in the verse are pretty damn consistent when they're at their full power or potential (Zeus is literally being presented as having been a lazy party looking god as of late and his Lightning bolt can still match Gorr that's a casual 6-A and high 6-A on his part)
Personally I don't believe it's entirely too far fetched to consider it if its a rating similar to konshu it's not necessarily combat applicable for most cases but it should be noted
Something like 6-B(for slapping up prime surtur who could blow up asguard),or even 6-A+/ High 6-A(if we get any new statements) and 4-C(blah blah star shit)
Edit: to specify the star shit with odin is happening if I see another god damn god character manipute the stars or have some kinda statement(i should honest scour the thor movies to see some shit)
And also that would still be indicative of old decrepit Odin and it's not necessarily a counter to what @OneBleachHurricane said prior especially when Hela made it clear he previously ruled with his actual power and not like strange abilities and shitEh idk Odin has hax like power null that could explain the W he took way back when,
NVM, got a shot in the movie itself to use for full height.Was Taika wearing anything to enhance his proportions? But then again, Surtur has bigger musculature than Taika.
I got it lol though it's not necessarily leaked dialogue moreso confirmation from Hemsworth that this is the strongest Thor, here it is:Give me the leaked dialogue.
I'm back from the abyss of sleep to BEAT THE ASS OF ALL THE NAY SAYERS WITH STATEMENTS LIKE THIS:
Taking it to his official Instagram, the actor shared a brand new workout video and while the clip in itself does not reveal anything about Thor: Love and Thunder, it's the caption that's currently drawing attention. Hemsworth wrote that not only will he be his fittest playing the character in the film, the God of Thunder, too, will be the strongest he's been in the Waititi-helmed project.
Physically, Hemsworth has been notably bigger while filming Thor: Love and Thunder as seen in both official and unofficial set images. Previously, the actor mentioned that he had been at his fittest in his years playing the character, but this is the first time that he's explicitly said that his real-life physicality will factor in the movie's narrative.
I've told yall this before but this will be pretty blatant for Thor to do this feat with no extra strings attatched even as @KLOL506 said Thor's feat lowballed to hell using even pluto get around 3.8ish petatons putting him solidly at 6-A at the very very least
I assumed Hellbeast meant a claim that Thor in Love and Thunder is > SurturI got it lol though it's not necessarily leaked dialogue moreso confirmation from Hemsworth that this is the strongest Thor, here it is:
Oh idk about that so he'll need to link you since that's the first im hearing of itI assumed Hellbeast meant a claim that Thor in Love and Thunder is > Surtur
He meant what you saidOh idk about that so he'll need to link you since that's the first im hearing of it
Ooh lol okayHe meant what you said
YeahBTW, does anyone have the link to the article or guidebook or whatever where it was stated that Surtur is 4km tall right when he dies?