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ACTUALLY YEAH, WE LITERALLY DO USE WHAT IF SCALING FOR THE MAIN CONTINUITY!
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High 6-C MCU
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I think What If scaling is fine unless incredibly stupid (Hulk not being able to be turned into a Zombie because his skin is too tough but Thanos got turned into a Zombie)
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Honestly, that's the only fucky bit of scaling in What If that I can think of.
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We have Strange fighting Strange Supreme on his Profile for his 9-B AP.
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Doctor Strange (Marvel Cinematic Universe)
Doctor Strange (real name Stephen Vincent Strange) is the main protagonist of the 2016 film Doctor Strange. Originally a very accomplished yet arrogant neurosurgeon, Strange suffered severe nerve damage to his hands in a car accident, rendering him incapable of continuing his work. When all...
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And he gets At least 9-A+ from the same fight
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Even with a massive scaling chain it still wouldn't be enough to warrant characters upscaling to another tier or even the mid range (+) of their tier if they only scale to above Baseline their tier.
There's been a whole Debate and CRT about these things.
The best you can get is "At Least X Tier, Likely Higher"
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The only other weird thing is the implication that an Early Thor can fight Captain Marvel but I think that can be explained away by this being her 12 years before the events of Endgame
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Point is, What If scaling hasn't been unusable beyond one shitty plothole
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Exactly.
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What are the chances of that with the justification being the Eternals perceiving the Avengers defeating Thanos and saving the universe as impressive?
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More interested they can fight with Marvel Comics.
Who's ready for MCU Thanos VS Marvel Thor
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We finally reversed the MCU Downgrades of 3 years ago, Huzzah!
Now the Pre-IW cast has been the strongest they have been since 4 years ago (They used to be High 6-C before)
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Time to reverse the Low 6-B downgrade
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Compromise
What if we give the Wasp a "Possibly Civil War Giant Man Tier" since we know that the Civil War Ant-Man Suit is basically the Ant-Man 1 Suit but upgraded (IIRC based on stuff that Scott and Hank said in AM&TW), while the Wasp Suit was a brand new suit in the makings during the end of Ant-Man 1, and fully functional by the time of AM&TW.
What if we give the Wasp a "Possibly Civil War Giant Man Tier" since we know that the Civil War Ant-Man Suit is basically the Ant-Man 1 Suit but upgraded (IIRC based on stuff that Scott and Hank said in AM&TW), while the Wasp Suit was a brand new suit in the makings during the end of Ant-Man 1, and fully functional by the time of AM&TW.
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I'd be willing to compromise for this.
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I just woke up and saw Strange being High 6-C, I am happy
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Thanos, Hulk, and Iron Man's pages need to be unlocked
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That's all
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We're almost finished now.
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If we use What If stuff then what's the reason to not use Captain marvel's 6-B feat?
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wdym?
Did I miss something? Months ago, we agreed not to use What if for scaling but now we are?
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Ok, so we probably can't use 6-B since Surtur died to 2 Teratons while the CM feat is 4 Teratons but still, did we have a CRT for allowing What if scaling all of a sudden?
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We didn't, it's just that people agreed Strange performing a 9-A+ feat in What If isn't unusable at all
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And I simply made a case for What If not being abhorrently unusable beyond the dumbass Zombie Thanos thing
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Yeah, he was destined to get killed by the explosion. Hence, he fulfilled the prophecy.
Also Surtur is very clearly nowhere near the size of a planet smh.
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Isn't that just cherry picking?
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Yes, but it's not like What If isn't unusable anyway beyond examples I mentioned above
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I'm getting myself confused over this Ragnarok prophecy stuff. Do we ever see Asgard's full size anyway? I'm not really sure
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Same guys said he was 4 km tall so...
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Yeah, we got the 4km Size of Surtur VFX statement, that's how we got 6-B.
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