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Here we go again: 1-A Ichiban downgrade, the sequel.
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Elaborations on what, exactly? I already expressed everything I wanted to say on this thread.
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As said, I think the infinite time thing is because Akuto was observing the worlds he created, not because he couldn't do it otherwise.
Akuto being the afterlife is kinda a good point for the fact that he should already be that powerful. Like, someone that has the power to turn themself into a giant. While they might not always be a giant, the power to achieve that is already there.
And I feel like the narration treats it as something he could do. Like, he just casually decides to do it once he is told that he should theoretically be able to. It sounds very weird to say that Akuto can make himself powerful by creating more stuff for himself to control. As said, it's like saying that a multiverse level reality warper can only be multiverse level while a multiverse is present, because they otherwise can't reality warp a whole multiverse.
Anyways, aside from this issue we have basically revised stats for everyone? Or am I forgetting someone whichs new placing would still be unclear?
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The basic Extra-universal Gods that are on the stories Akuto created, ig. Because the Afterlife defines Akuto himself, and that defines TLOI, so the EuG are the leftover to touch.
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I guess if the afterlife if 1 level above the real world (cause Akuto supposedly has escaped 1 system already), then they would be Low 1-C. Otherwise Low 2-C.
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I'm actually confused, why the Afterlife being 1 level above the real world, which would make it 5-D Low 1-C, means they would be Low 1-C, despite them not scaling to the Afterlife since they're below Akuto?
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I am mostly fine with what the three of you reach as an agreement, but it might be best to wait for @Matthew_Schroeder to come back tomorrow to give input.
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They would still be on the same level of existence as Akuto, i.e. the real world would be fiction to them, no? Or should they be taken to be fictional to afterlife beings in general?
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Have you reached agreements here then?
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Would you be willing to comment here as well?
@Matthew_Schroeder
Would you be willing to comment here as well?
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Waiting for the inclusion of this thread
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Well, have you all reached some form of agreement yet @YuriAkuto @DontTalkDT and @Ionliosite ?
Your input would also be appreciated @Matthew_Schroeder .
Your input would also be appreciated @Matthew_Schroeder .
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The Archetypical God Universes are in the same level of existance as Akuto, not the regular Extra-universal Gods.
If by "the real world" you mean the world Akuto came from, then technically no, since we don't know how they would relate to that; they have their own stories, after all, so we have nothing comparing them to the original story. Now, you can say all stories are the same, but that's a different matter to debate.
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Low 1-C (second hierarchical layer), possibly 1-A (encompassing his own hierarchy because of infinite universes)
1-A (above the infinite hierarchy), possibly High 1-A (2x above hierarchies)
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You can be 1-A while still bound by time in the current tiering system.
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So, I finally came around to updating the Tier 1 pages of the verse with the changes that (I believe) were agreed on.
For the extra-universal gods non-archetype key, I have for the time being set it to unknown. Honestly, it might be the best ranking for them seeing how few we really know about them.
For the extra-universal gods non-archetype key, I have for the time being set it to unknown. Honestly, it might be the best ranking for them seeing how few we really know about them.
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Do you mind if I change the justification a bit? Just the way the sentence is said.
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1-A possibly High 1-A for Void Body and TLOI
Low 1-C possibly 1-A for Akuto
Low 1-C for Archetypal Gods and unknown for the others
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Post it here. If I don't mind I will copy it onto the pages.
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Good point. We may need to copy the blog contents to a regular explanations page, and then modify them.
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Would you be willing to help us out please?
@Ionliosite
Would you be willing to help us out please?
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Akuto: Low Complex Multiverse level (Sees "stories" as fiction and creates them, including such similar to the Multiverse in which Act 1 to 12 happens), likely Outerverse level (All possible stories Akuto was supposed to create should include the infinite story hierarchies indicated to exist in the verse) ---------------------------> Low Complex Multiverse level (Ascended to the "next system", which is a layer above the normal world, where even the multiverse of stories he created are mere fiction.), likely Outerverse level (Since Akuto was supposed to create every possible stories, some should include an infinite hierarchy, to reproduce the one already present)
Gods: Unknown (Able to create stories, structures that contain an infinite retreat of dreams within dreams within dreams) -------------> (Able to create stories, which are at least universal in scale. However their exact nature is left unclear)
TLOI: Outerverse level, likely High Outerverse level
(The Journal stated that the Law of Identity was the only "real" thing in existence, with the totality of fiction being her mere creation, and later created the Anti-Universe after Keena perfomed the Contract of the One with Akuto Sai, leading him to being a Void Body taken into her. Stated to be able to exist infinite reality-fiction levels above everyone else despite the existence of such structure being unknown at the time)
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can this crt stay a little more open?
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Seems ok. I will add it in a bit.
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I'd appreciate it if you'd turn it off after I had the scans checked.
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