• This forum is strictly intended to be used by members of the VS Battles wiki. Please only register if you have an autoconfirmed account there, as otherwise your registration will be rejected. If you have already registered once, do not do so again, and contact Antvasima if you encounter any problems.

    For instructions regarding the exact procedure to sign up to this forum, please click here.
  • We need Patreon donations for this forum to have all of its running costs financially secured.

    Community members who help us out will receive badges that give them several different benefits, including the removal of all advertisements in this forum, but donations from non-members are also extremely appreciated.

    Please click here for further information, or here to directly visit our Patreon donations page.
  • Please click here for information about a large petition to help children in need.

ichiban ushiro no daimaou

  1. Hjdjdhf

    Why is cosmology different from character pages?

    https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Ichiban_Ushiro_no_Daimaou_Explanation_Page?veaction=edit&section=18 https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/The_Computer_Gods It can be seen that in cosmology, The Afterlife is categorized as 1A, and page 1A of The Computer Gods also includes a description that even...
  2. Duragoji123

    DEVILS NEVER CRY! | Akira Fudo VS Akuto Sai

    Akira Fudo VS Akuto Sai (Devilman OVAs VS Demon King Daimao Manga) Rules: Speed is equalized Starting distance is 10 meters Both are in their Low 7-B keys (Akuto has a ~1.696x advantage) Win conditions for either is trying to prevent the other from continuing the battle, by any means necessary...
    • Duragoji123
    • Thread
    • akuto sai demon king daimao devilman devilman (verse) ichiban ushiro no daimaou
    • Replies: 14
    • Forum: Versus Threads
  3. Delusionaltx2

    HeadMaster (Ichiban Ushiro no Daimaou) vs Nautilodaunt (Deepwoken) | [0-3-0]

    Speed Equalized A Fury Nautilodaunt with Thunderstruck is used God Suhara Arc is used for the Headmaster The Headmaster has prior knowledge SBA for anything else The Old-Man: The Squid-faced Brute: Duragoji123, AthelChan, Adasdadadsada Incon:
    • Delusionaltx2
    • Thread
    • deepwoken headmaster (ichiban ushiro no daimaou) ichiban ushiro no daimaou nautilodaunt roblox
    • Replies: 42
    • Forum: Versus Threads
  4. Maniaunavailable

    When the demon king cries (Featherine VS Akuto Sai)

    OK SO, FAA got updated at the end of 2025, and she can actually be used for macthups now. Akuto sai even tho the verse is on revisions, Void body won't be touched in a while probably, and his profile is still on a very good condition, so yeah beat his ahhh daredevil Featherine (True Form)...
    • Maniaunavailable
    • Thread
    • akuto sai featherine featherine augustus aurora ichiban ushiro no daimaou sai akuto umineko no naku koro ni
    • Replies: 9
    • Forum: Versus Threads
  5. BlazeISbot111

    Demon King Daimaou High 1A+ and possibly Tier 0 revision. Major cosmology overhaul

    Ignore everything below, this is better version that explains all of my points. Revised Explanation page: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:BlazeISbot121/_Ichiban_Ushiro_no_Daimaou_Explanation_Page Before getting into scaling, this blog should work as the new Explanation page. It...
    • BlazeISbot111
    • Thread
    • akuto sai demon king daimao extra-universal gods high 1-a high 1-a+ ichiban ushiro no daimaou the law of identity tier 0
    • Replies: 135
    • Forum: Content Revision
  6. ExcelsisBerny

    Small DKD revision | Merge of Manga and LN

    This is something really easy to understand. Honestly, I have always wondered why we treat the light novel and the manga as two completely separate works. It is important to keep in mind that the manga was written by Shōtarō Mizuki, the same author as the light novel, so it stands to reason...
  7. Grabbing_dragon

    Demon king daimao additions

    A soul is something that makes a being what it is, meaning it is the essence (core identity) of the being, making it a type 3 concept. Thus, manipulation of a soul should also be conceptual type 3 manipulation, which would apply to resistance too, and every character would receive unconventional...
    • Grabbing_dragon
    • Thread
    • akuto sai demon king daimao demon king daimao characters dkd ichiban ushiro no daimaou nep 2 the law of identy
    • Replies: 15
    • Forum: Content Revision
  8. ExcelsisBerny

    Narrative problems with DKD High 1-B+ | Miscellaneous Revisions [Staff Votes 4 - 0] [ACCEPTED]

    I have noticed a very serious misinterpretation regarding the scaling of the Computer Gods, Awakened Demon King and Faceless Power users, so I am going to try to resolve the issue, just as I did in the previous thread. I will split this into three mini sections: The problem with the High 1-B+...
  9. Hjdjdhf

    Miyama Kaito VS Akuto Sai VS Battler Ushiromiya

    Miyama Kaito VS Akuto Sai VS Battler Ushiromiya Are all male protagonists, both are baseline high1A, who is stronger? If I'm wrong, thank you for correcting me. Miyama Kaito: Akuto Sai: Battler Ushiromiya:
    • Hjdjdhf
    • Thread
    • akuto sai battler ushiromiya i was caught up in a hero summoning ichiban ushiro no daimaou miyama kaito umineko no naku koro ni
    • Replies: 19
    • Forum: Versus Threads
  10. Hjdjdhf

    Boichiro Yamato vs Featherine Augustus Aurora

    Boichiro Yamato vs Featherine Augustus Aurora Boichiro Yamato: Featherine Augustus Aurora: Inconclusive: with their most powerful key
    • Hjdjdhf
    • Thread
    • boichiro yamato featherine augustus aurora ichiban ushiro no daimaou umineko no naku koro ni
    • Replies: 8
    • Forum: Versus Threads
  11. Duragoji123

    Akuto Sai Speed Update (Ichiban Ushiro no Daimaou)

    Okay so, this should be a very quick and easy revision to tackle. Akuto's void body should have Immeasurable speed due to our standards regarding higher ontological existences and how that translates to speed. Not to mention he should be way above characters like Hiroshi Miwa and Boichiro...
  12. Zarovut

    "Is this matchup even possible?" (Akuto Sai vs The Star Maker)

    The Demon King vs The Goal of All Finite Things CONDITIONALS: • Both Void Body and The Creative Spirit keys will be used, as both of them are High 1-A+ Type 1 (at least, to my knowledge). • Honestly, I suppose that's pretty much it. I don't think starting distance, equipment, or whatever else...
    • Zarovut
    • Thread
    • akuto sai demon king daimao ichiban ushiro no daimaou star maker star maker (olaf stapledon) the star maker
    • Replies: 3
    • Forum: Versus Threads
  13. FoxySonicMaster108

    John Egbert (Homestuck) VS Akuto Sai (Ichiban Ushiro no Daimaou)

    Yes I’ve been looking for a John Egbert match for a bit, can you tell? AAAAAA- I was initially gonna make Battler VS John, but I don’t wanna spoil anything for myself on Umineko. Anyway let’s see how this one turns out. John Egbert VS Akuto Sai Both are High 1-A (Epilogue John VS Afterlife...
  14. Duragoji123

    Nigh-omnipresent computers???? (Demon King Daimao Computer Gods CRT)

    Simply put, I am of the belief that the Computer Gods should have nigh-omnipresence. Reading from our Explanation Page on them: Boichiro says they are a paradoxical existence, and that they are computer circuits without a 'true body'. There is 'no distinction between them and the outside...
  15. ArgentDragonPluto

    Updated/re-adjusting Demon King Daimaou ratings

    Hello. I think it is time to re-adjust the ratings of Demon King Daimaou characters and update the cosmology blog. I've prepared a Sandbox that has all the relevant information for tiering the verse, and I think it should be used to update the official cosmology explanation page. Here is the...
  16. ArgentDragonPluto

    Headmaster vs Kat (Demon King Daimao VS Gravity Rush)

    Headmaster vs Kat: Starting distance is 10 meters Speed is equal Kat scales to 6.6 Kilotons of TNT, Headmaster upscales from 1.83 Kilotons (Less than 3.6x AP gap) In-character First to get knocked out or surrender loses Panther mode restricted Headmaster: Kat: @LaserPrecision, @Dalesean027...
    • ArgentDragonPluto
    • Thread
    • gravity rush headmaster (ichiban ushiro no daimaou) ichiban ushiro no daimaou kat (gravity rush)
    • Replies: 63
    • Forum: Versus Threads
  17. ArgentDragonPluto

    Demon King Daimaou speed changes

    Alright, so let's talk about DKD's speed. Part 1/High Tier speed For starters, Hypersonic rating goes away. The issue with the calc that I didn't notice before is that the anime portrays Akuto to in-fact reacting to Boichiro's attack. So, it's not usable due to the basis being a speed blitz...
  18. Zeinx1

    Scarlet King (Djoric verse) VS Akuto Sai

    Scarlet King Versus Akuto Sai Standart Battle Assumptions Both are equal to Massively Hypersonic speed (Equalising with Akuto Sai's speed) Scarlet King (Goat) : Akuto sai: Incon:
    • Zeinx1
    • Thread
    • akuto sai ichiban ushiro no daimaou scarlet king scp
    • Replies: 5
    • Forum: Versus Threads
  19. ArgentDragonPluto

    Massive Dragon God and Supergenius Scientist CRT (Demon King Daimaou)

    In this CRT I have prepared Peterhausen and Yoshie Kita profile reworks from Ichiban Ushiro no Daimaou. First off, Peterhausen's profile reworks. Reworked sandbox: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User:StorytellingDemonKing/Peterhausen Current profile...
    • ArgentDragonPluto
    • Thread
    • akuto sai demon king daimao ichiban ushiro no daimaou peterhausen sai akuto supergenius tier 2 tier 7 tier 9 yoshie kita
    • Replies: 5
    • Forum: Content Revision
  20. ArgentDragonPluto

    CMID-7 massive rework (Demon King Daimaou)

    Yes, CMID-7. Not 8, but 7. Why? Because Boichiro's profile was already reworked duh. Anyway, I've reworked the profile of rest of the members, so 7 in total. Mostly scans and minor ability additions. First up, Kento Kurahashi, the Supergenius and perhaps the strongest magician in the series...
    • ArgentDragonPluto
    • Thread
    • akuto sai boichiro yamato c-mid8 cmid-8 demon king daimao ichiban ushiro no daimaou sai akuto tier 2 tier 7 tier 9
    • Replies: 6
    • Forum: Content Revision
  21. ArgentDragonPluto

    Korone profile rework and minor Junko improvement and additions (Demon King Daimaou)

    Alright, so I've been reworking some profiles for the verse and now it's Korone's turn. Reworked sandbox: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User:StorytellingDemonKing/Korone Current profile: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Korone Additions include: Her intelligence will also be expanded...
    • ArgentDragonPluto
    • Thread
    • akuto sai demon king daimao ichiban ushiro no daimaou junko hattori korone sai akuto tier 1 tier 2
    • Replies: 11
    • Forum: Content Revision
  22. ArgentDragonPluto

    Keena Soga and Fujiko Etou profile rework and minor upgrade (Demon King Daimaou)

    This should be pretty straight forward. Let's start with Keena Soga: Reworked sandbox: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User:StorytellingDemonKing/Keena_Soga Current profile: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Keena_Soga Small upgrade would be her becoming Low 7-C with magic, though it...
    • ArgentDragonPluto
    • Thread
    • akuto sai demon king daimao ichiban ushiro no daimaou keena soga sai akuto smurf soga keena the law of identity tier 1 tier 2
    • Replies: 11
    • Forum: Content Revision
  23. Captainhyperion22

    Ichiban Ushiro No Daimaou - Upgrade Likely H1-A other than Sai Akuto, Hiroshi Miwa, and The Law of Identity.

    Akuto goal of opening up the possibility of the world is to save all the creatures in the law of identity story so that they can be free from the story that binds them and this was revealed directly by Akuto himself when consulting with Hiroshi Miwa. And only in Volume 13 Chapter 6, we can see...
  24. ArgentDragonPluto

    Possible upgrade for Boichiro Yamato

    In Volume 13 Boichiro Yamato states that he, along with Hiroshi Miwa, can and are considered to be Gods in similar nature to Akuto Sai. He explicitly says "we", and Hiroshi is already accepted as "Low 1-C, likely 1-A", so there isn't a reason for Boichiro not to scale. What's more, narratively...
    • ArgentDragonPluto
    • Thread
    • akuto sai boichiro yamato demon king daimao hiroshi miwa ichiban ushiro no daimaou sai akuto
    • Replies: 15
    • Forum: Content Revision
  25. Duragoji123

    So, I've got a question about Akuto Sai's speed in his Void Body

    So, currently, my boy Akuto's profile is ranked as being Omnipresent in his Afterlife key, and in his Void Body key his speed is Unknown. What I wanted to ask is, since he's beyond the end of all stories and the totality of fiction, in addition to becoming one with Keena/TLOI, wouldn't that...
  26. RedZoneee

    Ichiban Ushiro no Daimaou - Plot Manipulation for Hiroshi Miwa

    —• Introduction Name : Hiroshi Miwa a.k.a brave (NLOI) Origin : Demon King No DaiMaou —• Explanation Hiroshi miwa in his profile does not have plot manipulation (https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Hiroshi_Miwa). In my opinion, plot manipulation should be included in his profile. I will...
  27. ArgentDragonPluto

    The Computer Gods upgrade (Ichiban Ushiro no Daimaou) (Staff Only version)

    @Ultima_Reality gave me permission to remake this CRT into staff only. If possible I also want to allow @AKUTO123 And @Larssx to comment here since they heavily helped me. Relatively recently new information has come up that could potentially bring massive upgrades to the Ichiban Ushiro no...
  28. ArgentDragonPluto

    The Computer Gods upgrade (Ichiban Ushiro no Daimaou)

    Relatively recently new information has come up that could potentially bring massive upgrades to the Ichiban Ushiro no Daimaou (Demon King Daimaou) Verse in regards to The Computer Gods, which would affect and massively upgrade everyone. Here is a blog with the information provided that will...
    • ArgentDragonPluto
    • Thread
    • akuto sai hiroshi miwa ichiban ushiro no daimaou sai akuto the computer gods the law of identity
    • Replies: 222
    • Forum: Content Revision
  29. ArgentDragonPluto

    Reworking Akuto Sai's profile Part 2 (Demon King Daimaou)

    Hi. So almost a year ago I made a CRT "reworking" Akuto's profile. While it wasn't that bad, it was far from perfect. Pretty much small things were justified (P&A section from V1 to V12) while everything else was left, mostly, unchanged. This time around I will change that. Here is the sandbox...
  30. Experiment12

    New scaling Cosmology Ichiban

    —Rebuttal & new Scalling Cosmology ichiban. First, to scan : main story at the start of Volume 13: “Having all these different worlds is confusing. Real world, virtual alternate dimension, beyond universe, non-virtual alternate dimension, and afterlife. Does that cover it?” Hiroshi frowned...
    • Experiment12
    • Thread
    • #content revision thread administrators ichiban ushiro no daimaou sai akuto thread moderators
    • Replies: 7
    • Forum: Content Revision
  31. DontTalkDT

    Demon King Daimao Discussion Rule

    There were jokes about this happening for a while and now is the time. Yeah, I'm proposing a discussion rule for Ichiban Ushiro no Daimao. The specific debate I would like to not repeat are arguments regarding the reality-fiction hierarchies of the verse and the rating of characters scaling to...
  32. Abscoolguy

    woman who exists outside reality vs guy who writes stories

    JUDY VS Akuto Sai Both at their 1-A keys assuming those are: Experiment (Matured Frogmoth) JUDY VS Void Body Akuto No idea if it's fair or not but it seemed interesting to do. SBA
    • Abscoolguy
    • Thread
    • akuto sai ichiban ushiro no daimaou judy twin peaks versus threads
    • Replies: 0
    • Forum: Versus Threads
  33. NatzuX

    Tom VS Akuto

    Tom Taylor (The Unwritten) VS Akuto Sai Speed Equal Rules : SBA
    • NatzuX
    • Thread
    • akuto sai high 1-a ichiban ushiro no daimaou the unwritten tom taylor
    • Replies: 15
    • Forum: Versus Threads
  34. ArgentDragonPluto

    Junko Hattori Profile Rework

    Alrighty, in my continuation of remaking and improving DKD profiles, it's Junko's turn. Here is the sandbox: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User:StorytellingDemonKing/Junko_Hattori Here is the current VSBW Profile: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Junko_Hattori Pretty much everything is...
  35. ArgentDragonPluto

    Akuto Sai Rework

    Hello! This is a continuation from this thread. It was accepted that everyone who scales to Peterhausen or Act 2 Akuto, will be upgraded to Low 7-C aka Small Town level. The profiles for Akuto and Hiroshi weren't unlocked so in the meantime I reworked Akuto's profile, adding scans and...
  36. YGRTKT

    A Minor Stuff From Ichiban Ushiro No Daimaou.

    I don't currently see the NPI ability in Akuto's profile. So, I just made this small CRT with some curiousities myself. Should Akuto recieve NPI ability via this? And about The Extra-Universal Gods (from The Empty Universe). The Extra-Universal Gods surely came from the nothingness without...
    • YGRTKT
    • Thread
    • akuto sai crt ichiban ushiro no daimaou the extra-universal gods
    • Replies: 6
    • Forum: Content Revision
  37. ArgentDragonPluto

    Demon King Daimaou upgrades and changes

    Alrighty, so in this CRT I will try to have quite a few changes get accepted. Sort of a general CRT to some extent. Attack Potency upgrades This calculation got accepted: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Drite77/Demon_King_Daimaou:_Splitting_Clouds_redux So, everyone who scales to...
  38. DontTalkDT

    Shallow Vernal vs The Law of Identity

    Shallow Vernal vs The Law of Identity Two story-ending entities fight it out. Epilogue vs Storyteller 1-A keys SBA otherwise Who wins this? I'm 95% this will immediately become 'who has more layers' and subsequently make me lose all interest, but I thought I might as well do a 1-A match for once
    • DontTalkDT
    • Thread
    • i was caught up in a hero summoning ichiban ushiro no daimaou shallow vernal (web novel) the law of identity
    • Replies: 37
    • Forum: Versus Threads
  39. ArgentDragonPluto

    DKD verse page update

    Currently, the Demon King Daimaou verse page uses an anime PNG image which I don't believe looks that good so we should use this instead. The only questionable thing is the state of Junko's clothes but I don't think it's that bad, so should be fine IMO.
    • ArgentDragonPluto
    • Thread
    • akuto sai demon king daimao fujiko etou hiroshi miwa ichiban ushiro no daimaou junko hattori keena soga sai akuto the law of identity yoshie kita
    • Replies: 10
    • Forum: Content Revision
  40. ArgentDragonPluto

    Minor Akuto Sai additions and fixes

    Akuto Sai should receive Social Influence via these quotes: And currently in the Key section he has "pre-possibilities", this should also be removed. This is just a small and simple CRT. I plan on making a bigger CRT to add scans for all of the characters later when I get the time.
Back
Top