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First that was his first plan? then he was going to create a new world out of the ashes from that feat. It was the destruction of the earth. It is different from destruction of civiliation
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Hello guys I believe Toneri should be at least planetary level and not moon level.
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You don't need to have 5-B AP to "destroy" the Earth tho. Also we don't use DC, we use AP, we rely exclusively on joule values for determining AP.
"Destroying the Earth" can mean many things. A 7-A to 6-C chain reaction via nukes, A High 6-B meteorite causing massive earthquakes across the continent, a High 6-A surface wipe, or a 5-C Moon impact that takes out a chunk of its portion and renders it uninhabitable for the rest of its lifespan.
Do you even understand what it means to reach 5-B AP? You would literally have to overpower the Earth's GBE and blow it to smithereens at speeds which would overpower its own gravity causing it to never reform back again. Read what Gravitational Binding Energy is.
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Another problem with this is that even before the the light of justice toneri was going to destroy earth with his own eyes. With his own tenseigan he was moving the earth. 3 different statements.
1 toneri destroy earth with the moon
2 toneri destroy earth with his own eye
3 toneri absorbing the byakugans and still destroying earth.
either way he destroys earth not just the surface but to ashes
Thus naruto scales to him.
Toneri planetary and al the high tiers
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Exactly what toneri wanted to do he wanted to turn the earth to ashes. Meaning he was planning on reducing it to nothing.
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You mean naruto god tiers right? Agree with samlex
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I mean there is a different between destroying the earth and just destroying civilization. Just check synon for earth no where it says civilization.
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Already calculated, KE doesn't reach the 2.49e+32 J required to overpower the Earth's GBE
Never shown the extent of the destruction.
Same as above.
Prove that he can overpower the Earth's GBE, because the calcs speak against you as it is.
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1 wrong Calculations statement greaterAlready calculated, KE doesn't reach the 2.49e+32 J required to overpower the Earth's GBE
Never shown the extent of the destruction.
Same as above.
Prove that he can overpower the Earth's GBE, because the calcs speak against you as it is.
2 does not need to shown it the aim was to turn the world to ashes
Now tell me how do we know that the chakra cano can obliterat the moon is it not based on statement.
but it was accepted because it does not affect Naruto’s rating.
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That means nothing in the long run with the calcs being against your logic. This route has been taken before and rejected more times than my own age number.
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So why was the statement accepted for the charkra canon. Same statement destro earth and destroy the moon.
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It literally says prevent total planetary annihilation how does that not equal to planetary destruction
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How was it acceptEd for fairytale when they say destroy the world and not even earth. But for naruto we have to get a calculation for a statement. Natsu is planetary based of statement but for some reason you hold naruto to a different level. After statements upon statements now you ask how are we biased towards naruto fandom
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Unless y’all going to tell us that it was a hyperbole which is not cause it’s been state multiple times he was going to destroy the earth
It literally says prevent total planetary annihilation how does that not equal to planetary destruction
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Why how long do we have to do this what do you need again. The bias is so much and you say you not bias.
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not every single calc is right
yeah.
by throwing the moon into it
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The whole purpose of naruto the last was to save earth from destruction. In fact a watch was given to some shinobi to countdown When earth would be destroyed. Again this is not a thread that involves calculations but statements.
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What else do they need literally what else.
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Either way he was go to destroy the whole earth. He should still scale.
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That's not how that works. His only contribution to that hypothetical feat is moving the moon, which was calced at 5-C. The best you can get is 5-B Environmental Destruction out of something like this.
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I'm pretty sure there's extreme contention using movie leaflets for feats even now, especially given the fact that we take RAWs over official translations almost 90% of the time if the official translations have egregious errors. And your scan isn't the official RAW.
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LOL Crysis 3 has a similar statement, yet we don't take it as 5-B because context says otherwise if you keep watching a bit more.
It literally says prevent total planetary annihilation how does that not equal to planetary destruction
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But that’s a different case like I said before it’s been stated multiple times he was going to destroy the earth with tenseigan
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You can’t compare that crisis 3 verse to naruto verse two different verses
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BY DROPPING A MOON ON IT.
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No, we actually can, because both feats are chain reactions in nature. The only true feat worth the salt here is Toneri moving the moon to Earth.
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Well, then maybe y'all should take a page out of your own book and stop bringing up verses that got upgrades, and accusing everyone who disagrees with you of bias
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The OP: FT does it and gets it
This verse: Doesn’t get it
Someone: This verse doesn’t get it
You: Don’t use other verses
Different verses have different mechanics
This verse: Doesn’t get it
Someone: This verse doesn’t get it
You: Don’t use other verses
Different verses have different mechanics
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Yo Tempest, you're more knowledgeable than me regarding the Last (especially the novelization), do you mind clearing up some of the misconceptions plaguing this thread? Would really appreciate it.
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I didn’t say y’all were bias and I didnt bring that crisis 3 verse in fact it was KLOL506 who brought that verse up idk anything about crisis 3
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Sorry, that mini rant was mostly directed at the OP. He must've called me biased, directly or indirectly, at least 5+ times today lol.
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Gimme 10-30 minutes, maybe less
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Unfortunately I am working for the next week and a half so yeah i can’t exist atm
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Because the feat was similar in nature that it was a chain reaction?
You don't need to know rocket science in Crysis 3 to know that the feat wasn't a full 5-B feat, the satellite would focus all that raw energy into another massive energy source, the Earth, and then go boom.
Same thing here, Toneri causes the Moon to drop onto the Earth, wreaking havoc with the initial impact and letting the Tenseigan do the rest. It's a chain reaction feat.
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Does the OP realize Toneri needed the moon to destroy the Earth even after gaining the Tenseigan?
You need to realize something that others have pointed out. Because X verse does this doesn't mean Y verse would follow suit.No scans, just a bunch of intentionally misinterpreted screenshots.
I don't think there's any reason for this to still be open.
You need to realize something that others have pointed out. Because X verse does this doesn't mean Y verse would follow suit.No scans, just a bunch of intentionally misinterpreted screenshots.
I don't think there's any reason for this to still be open.
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MINOR GRAMMATICAL MISTAKE, OPINION REJECTED
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It's like this.
Toneri with the Tenseigan = 5C
The Moon smashing into the Earth = 5B
Toneri without the Moon can't be 5B. It's so obvious I wonder why it's still being contested.
Toneri with the Tenseigan = 5C
The Moon smashing into the Earth = 5B
Toneri without the Moon can't be 5B. It's so obvious I wonder why it's still being contested.
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