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(Grace) Yang Xiao Long vs Inasa Yoarashi

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You didn't prove it to be a stomp, both me and Jinx have disproved that notion while you keep telling us to double check the rules.

And I've already told you why it's disingenuous to say King backed you up when, in reality, he expressed indifference. I'll post it again since you tend to forget things.

MilesTheMorales1 said:
Everyone who can be misconstrued to be on your side, isn't. They all have a variation of "oh well," "I guess that's that," etc. They express indifference, not resonation.
@KingofWolves says: "If you truly believe this is a stomp, then close the thread."
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This was a challenge and a request of confirmation. If it's a stomp, it would've been closed already, but since no mod has, it's not reasonable to conclude that it is one, and you certainly shouldn't tell everyone who votes not to just because of your beliefs.

Bakihanma was willing to vote for Yang earlier with a wincon, and expressed dissapointment with your decision to call this a stomp. You can see this when he says: "Dam, yeah, I guess it's a stomp...(...)" again, he isn't showing true agreement, rather he's dissapointed and chose to back down in the face of content authority.


DVD181 says: "Inasa FRA"
right before you "correct" him after reading this thread, then he says:


"Oh, well, never mind then. My bad."
I'm no mind reader, and I'm definitely open for these speakers to come back and reiterate what they meant, but it would seem to me that everyone who reads the arguments for themselves all think that either Yang or Inasa would win fairly, even choosing to vote. It's already disingenuous to claim that this is a stomp thread, and it's dishonest to say that it's "already been determined" to be a stomp.
 
Kingofwolves999 said:
It's not a stomp, it's decisive. Inasa makes a single mistake regarding Yang flying at him and he gets one shot. Yang has just as many tools to beat Inasa as he does her, but his are better overall. If he were any less intelligent or skilled with his quirk Yang would win this. But he isn't, so he does.
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@Insert Scenarios in which luck is the sole reason for one character winning are not considered legitimate
 
Insert creative name here 12 said:
That was in response to you saying King agreed with you not arguing about stomp rules.
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That was in response to him creating a scenario in which Yang wins through sheer luck
 
Don't quote me for this being a stomp, Weekly. I firmly believe this is just a decisive win. If this thread gets closed because you're under the impression that Yang gets completely stomped by Inasa, then I'll just take it as I argued too good. What happens doesn't particularly matter to me, as I don't care too much about these 2 characters.

However, avoiding having another loss on Yang's page by claiming this is a stomp? You've done this before, and it's quite disappointing to see. You do you, but all you're doing is harming your credibility with people that have issues with what you're doing.
 
The notion that im arguing that this is a stomp solely to stop yang from getting a loss is honestly ridiculous. Not every declaration of a stomp is fueled by bias you know. If people decide to view me as less credible just because im following the rules and guidelines set by the staff then so be it.
 
Also wanna add onto the whole "Inasa makes a single mistake regarding Yang flying at him and he gets one shot" thing. If this isn't a wincon to you, you're committing the no-limits fallacy that Inasa can make no mistakes during battle.
 
@Miles It isnt a wincon as that implies that in an open field with no obstructions or things in the environment to throw him off he would simply allow himself to be hit
 
Kingofwolves999 said:
Don't quote me for this being a stomp, Weekly. I firmly believe this is just a decisive win. If this thread gets closed because you're under the impression that Yang gets completely stomped by Inasa, then I'll just take it as I argued too good. What happens doesn't particularly matter to me, as I don't care too much about these 2 characters.
However, avoiding having another loss on Yang's page by claiming this is a stomp? You've done this before, and it's quite disappointing to see. You do you, but all you're doing is harming your credibility with people that have issues with what you're doing.
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Called it lol
 
I wouldn't have that opinion if I hadn't seen you do this exact same thing several times. And only on RWBY threads. Which you have a hard bias in favor for.

But either way, that's off topic. Inasa beats Yang because he has better win conditions. Unless you believe that every single battle on every character's profile should be removed if a winner is clear, this is just a decisive win. Not a stomp.
 
@King Rules are rules, also notice how those threads have since been declared stomp by other members of staff and have since been removed from the pages

Yes, Inasa stomps Yang as the only wincon she has is through sheer luck of him making a mistake in a battlefield with no environmental obstacles or anything that could cause him to make a mistake
 
Fully agree with Kingofwolves here. OBVIOUSLY not every stomp declaration is out of bias, and that wasn't the point we're making. We're just saying you're arguments for it are wrong, if we just argued on your previous biases it would be ad hominem or genetic arguing.
 
When the only argument for one character winning is that they get lucky from their more skilled opponent making a mistake in an environment in which there is nothing around that would cause them to make a mistake that is not decisive, that is an illegitimate wincon trying to force a stomp to be decisive
 
Kingofwolves999 said:
Petition for every single win from the RWBY verse be removed then. If their opponents can't beat them, all the matches are stomps according to your line of reasons.
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Youre free to do so but their current wins have already been evaluated by the staff and deemed fair and the ones that werent were already removed
 
How is Yang vs Katsuragi not a stomp Weekly? How is Weiss vs Dio not a stomp? Yang vs Ed? Ruby vs Eddy? Weiss vs Mei?

All of those matches seemed quite decisive. Some of them were even easier wins than Inasa would have vs Yang.

Why are those matches acceptable, but this match a stomp?
 
@King Katsu in Frantic Mode can oneshot Yang

Dio only lost due to his arrogance

Ruby vs Eddy im actually not sure on

Yang vs Ed was a weird match to begin with, Yang basically won because she has a consistent fighting method whereas Ed is all over the place with what he uses in a fight to the point that he could win just as many times as he could lose

Weiss vs Mei is being removed as Mei is being downgraded
 
So because Katsu is capable of one shotting Yang, her match was deemed fair, despite her losing if she can't get her one shot off?

Then how is this match any different? Yang is capable of one shotting Inasa, but he can play around and avoid it, just like Yang could Katsu.

How is this predicament any different from that battle?
 
@King Katsu doesnt spam ranged attacks capable of ragdolling her opponent and preventing them from getting anywhere near her or using ranged attacks against her nor can she just fly out of reach and range spam her opponent to death
 
Here's my question: if the rules dictate both characters must have a viable win con, what is Yang's win con? If she can reach Inasa, she can't oneshot, so that wouldn't be viable. If Yang has a win con, Inasa takes this. If not, this is a stomp and should be closed
 
Also, Dio lost due to multiple reasons, not "arrogance." He couldn't freeze Weiss, couldn't break out of her own ice, couldn't one shot her, was less skilled, and his regen was rendered useless. How is that fair but this not? Yang has a chance of beating Inasa, Dio didn't even have a whisper of a chance. You deem that fair, but this a stomp?
 
I honestly could care less if this match is deemed a stomp or not. All I care is that it's understood that the right person wins this fight for the right reasons. If it's unanimously decided that it's a stomp, I'll agree it should be closed. If it's not, then I'll believe it should be fine to add.
 
BakiHanma18 said:
Here's my question: if the rules dictate both characters must have a viable win con, what is Yang's win con? If she can reach Inasa, she can't oneshot, so that wouldn't be viable. If Yang has a win con, Inasa takes this. If not, this is a stomp and should be closed
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Yang can very much one shot if Inasa makes even one mistake. Not exactly guranteed to happen, but most certainly not impossible for Inasa to slip up and/or be caught by surprise even once.
 
Also if this battle wasn't equalized Yang would blitz Inasa, making it arguably a blitz in her favor. The fact that we took her outstanding speed out of the equation of this fight makes this even more decisive.
 
I'm kinda with Weekly. Inasa wouldn't just "make a mistake." He's obviously skilled with his quirk, making 1st in the Entrance Exam. His skill level is closely comparable to Todoroki, who assisted in defeating Stain. His only weaknesses are that he's a glass cannon and that warmth can "redirect" his wind upward and make it harder to control. (I'll touch on this later.) But here's the thing, Yang can block a lot of the damage simply by using her aura. However, it will not completely shield her from the damage, but it can at least allow Yang to survive some gusts. Now here's the thing. From here, if Yang uses blast wave fast enough and Inasa can't dodge, I believe she wins. However, if Inasa dodges (which he may be able to do due to Yang's shaky hand) or Yang doesn't move quick enough, Inasa has full privileges to ragdoll with wind.

Oh, I said I'd touch on Inasa's weaknesses, didn't I? Well his glass cannonocity will all play into if Yang can hit quick enough. The warmth factor...okay look. Yang can generate her flames, but they're not really long lasting. It can provide a brief opening, but once again, if Inasa can dodge or not is the deciding factor for me. But believe me, if I knew who won I wouldn't make this thread. For reasons I stated I lean towards Inasa mildly heavily. Yang still has quick wincons to me, but I feel as though Inasa's are more potent. This isn't a stomp to me, low-diff sounds more accurate personally. However, I'm proably gonna have to edit this post if Weekly disagrees with my "low-diff" statement.
 
To Miles, about a tenth of your entire wiki activity has been on this thread (namely arguing against Weekly). I myself am a heated guy, but at these points in time, I have two options. 1.) Accept their points of view. This method is only to be used in a reaction to solid, logical reasoning. That's definitely an option here. 2.) Just say, "Inasa" or "Yang" or "Incon" and follow up with something telling people not to try and change your votes. I've had to use this method with people who haven't been acquainted with logic since birth (Not dropping any names. It's definitely not you.) or people who haven't provided nearly enough evidence in my eyes to be persuaded. You can choose, but do this for me. Forget the heat of the argument, look through Weekly's comments, and just ask yourself if they're logical. (It sounds cheesy, but it works.) That's about all I can give you. And the information from my previous comment of course. Please tell me if you want me to change your vote, and if you want me to keep it the same, then you don't have to say anything. (I want to minimize the amount of people's comments so it isn't like my Pikachu vs Garou thread, where someone had to make a continuing thread.) Welp, good luck with the voting and have a good afternoon.
 
MilesTheMorales1 said:
BakiHanma18 said:
Here's my question: if the rules dictate both characters must have a viable win con, what is Yang's win con? If she can reach Inasa, she can't oneshot, so that wouldn't be viable. If Yang has a win con, Inasa takes this. If not, this is a stomp and should be closed
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Yang can very much one shot if Inasa makes even one mistake. Not exactly guranteed to happen, but most certainly not impossible for Inasa to slip up and/or be caught by surprise even once.
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That is technically a win con, but it's not viable. Inasa is not prone to make mistakes, even less so in a situation like this, where, under pressure, he's seen to be as able-bodied as even the likes of Todoroki.
 
@Ezran It was actually agreed since almost the very beginning of this thread that any fire that Yang produces would pale in comparison to Shouto's flames and thus wouldnt even play into his weakness to begin with

Also Blast Wave is being removed as it was retconned
 
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