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(Grace) Yang Xiao Long vs Inasa Yoarashi

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Kingofwolves999 said:
Yang cannot hit Inasa even if she can power through his wind with her semblance. That is the current argumentation.

Not only does v4 Yang not use her semblance as liberally as v1-3 Yang, meaning that she she won't be in it for long, but she doesn't have the mobility to keep up with Inasa's own speed amps. She's going to be getting ragdolled the entire fight until her Semblance kicks in, at which point she HAS to hit Inasa, because if she doesn't, she loses. The problem with hitting Inasa, however, is that not only can he just fly away from her, but he can speed amp himself away, similarly to how she can propel herself with her gauntlets.

Inasa is not competing with Yang in mobility, she is competing with him. Inasa doesn't need to worry about spamming his mobility to get close to his opponent, she does. Inasa doesn't have to worry about his range being completely negated, she does. The only thing Inasa needs to do is not get hit, and he has the perfect tools to not be. Especially against someone like Yang, who he counters in basically every way.
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Okay then, how is this not a stomp if sh cant hit him and her projectiles get blown away?
 
It's not a stomp, it's decisive. Inasa makes a single mistake regarding Yang flying at him and he gets one shot. Yang has just as many tools to beat Inasa as he does her, but his are better overall. If he were any less intelligent or skilled with his quirk Yang would win this. But he isn't, so he does.
 
How is it decisive? From you own admission Yang isnt going to be getting through his wind and anything she shoots at him get blown away harmlessly, her projectiles dont have the heat required to nullify his wind, and he can just fly around and range spam endlessly. Thats not in any way decisive.
 
This is the same reason why Yang vs Iron Man and Weiss vs Kimblee was deemed a stomp only Inasa has unlimited flight ad unlimited range spam
 
WeeklyBattles said:
This has already been determined to be a stomp just as a heads up
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By one mod who's been arguing that Yang would win up until the final vote is needed for grace.

The fact is, there are wincons on both sides. Yang is able to harm and one-shot Inasa, and Inasa is able to outsmart Yang, but must tread carefully. Just because the odds are shifted in Inasa's favor doesn't mean that it's a stomp... at all.
 
Everyone who can be misconstrued to be on your side, isn't. They all have a variation of "oh well," "I guess that's that," etc. They express indifference, not resonation.

@KingofWolves says: "If you truly believe this is a stomp, then close the thread."
This was a challenge and a request of confirmation. If it's a stomp, it would've been closed already, but since no mod has, it's not reasonable to conclude that it is one, and you certainly shouldn't tell everyone who votes not to just because of your beliefs.

Bakihanma was willing to vote for Yang earlier with a wincon, and expressed dissapointment with your decision to call this a stomp. You can see this when he says: "Dam, yeah, I guess it's a stomp...(...)" again, he isn't showing true agreement, rather he's dissapointed and chose to back down in the face of content authority.

DVD181 says: "Inasa FRA"
right before you "correct" him after reading this thread, then he says:

"Oh, well, never mind then. My bad."

I'm no mind reader, and I'm definitely open for these speakers to come back and reiterate what they meant, but it would seem to me that everyone who reads the arguments for themselves all think that either Yang or Inasa would win fairly, even choosing to vote. It's already disingenuous to claim that this is a stomp thread, and it's dishonest to say that it's "already been determined" to be a stomp.
 
It doesnt matter that yang can oneshot hism when there is no scenario that can be presented here that would allow her to do so

Even if she uses her semblance, by king's own admission, inasa would just fly away and wait for it to run out and blow away any projectiles she shot at him
 
Listed are a couple examples of non-stomp threads from the Stomp Thread Criteria Page Itself.

  • Both characters have several methods of winning, including options that allow them to win instantly. However, one character can reliably use/activate their winning move(s) first.
Yang can one-shot when up close or use shockwaves to harm opponents that are far away(more effective with range), Inasa can use wind to either pick up Yang or spam from afar until the opponent is unable to fight. Even if Inasa will always use his move first, it's not a stomp because Yang has the potential to beat him, but more often than not she would lose.

  • One character has more ways to win than the other, but the other character wins more times than not due to matchup specifics that allow/cause them to use their winning move(s) immediately.
Speed equalized. If Yang had her full speed, she would be able to potentially blitz, but due to the matchup specifics, she can't outrun his attacks.

In both instances(the other two examples have to do with regen, which is irrelevant to this battle since Inasa has no regen), Inasa wins and can't be considered a stomp.

Stop saying that there is "no scenario" where Yang wins when there obviously is, which is enough to be a fair fight. You're lying to yourself at this point if you keep saying this is a stomp.
 
WeeklyBattles said:
Even if she uses her semblance, by king's own admission, inasa would just fly away and wait for it to run out and blow away any projectiles she shot at him
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You see what he did there? He didn't refute any wincons, he just responded with another one. Having more wincons doesn't make this a stomp. Obviously this wasn't your point; you're still trying to say that she has ZERO wincons, which is untrue, but I just wanted to point that out just in case you decide to switch arguments again.
 
Dude. It is physically impossible for yang to get up close. Spammed wind attacks and true flight ensure she never will. It is a textbook stomp and matches with identical reasoning have been deemed stomps as well.
 
The eonly wincon yang has relies solely on inasa acting entirely out of chatacter and not using his wind attacks while also allowing yang to get close to him. By our rules that makes it a stomp.
 
WeeklyBattles said:
Dude. It is physically impossible for yang to get up close. Spammed wind attacks and true flight ensure she never will. It is a textbook stomp and matches with identical reasoning have been deemed stomps as well.
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At hypersonic speed, Yang would be able to not only get up close to him before he reacts, but also power through his wind attacks simply by outpacing it, getting around him and attacking from behind. Since speed is equalized, however, Yang's speed is not considered in this match, and we can't use this wincon.

The only reason this wincon can't be used is the battle condition set by the OP. This is the definition of a decisive win.
 
MilesTheMorales1 said:
You also ignored that Yang can use shockwave attacks that become greater in strength from afar, no need to get up close.
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Those were retconned and need to be removed from her profile
 
WeeklyBattles said:
MilesTheMorales1 said:
You also ignored that Yang can use shockwave attacks that become greater in strength from afar, no need to get up close.
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Those were retconned and need to be removed from her profile
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Even if this one attack is removed from her profile, it doesn't refute any of her other wincons I listed above.
 
It really does. Any wincon you presented gets shot down by him flying away and spamming wind attacks thus preventing her from one shotting with physical attacks, projectiles, or her semblance
 
That's just untrue because 1. King didn't refute the wincon I used, you're claiming that either Yang's wincon always works or it never works with no room in-betwee, which is some irrational black & white B.S. and 2. you still haven't bothered to respond to the fact that a top speed Yang would outru his wind attacks if it weren't for the OP making speed irrelevant by equalizing.

This is a textbook decisive matchup.

I get that you wanted Yang to win and it's upsetting that she's about to be handed a loss, but you're out of your mind if you keep declaring this a stomp thread to avoid an L on her profile. If you keep coming at me with the same points then I give up, since there's no convincing you otherwise.
 
Because there is no room in between. It doesnt matter what would happen in a speed unequalized match because speed is not unequalized here
 
Havent had laptop access but yeah

You seem to constantly keep trying for RWBY characters to win, whether its lynching on their one win con or just constantly changing how things work to fit an argument (Aura, Semblances), and when there is a solid backing and support against them within a thread that looks like a loss, you instantly turn to Stomp so that they dont have an L on their profile. Its happened more than once now come on.

Inasa has the multiple win cons, but Yang still does have the one shot capability, as well as range and experience to not make it completely low diff for Inasa. Just let it be tbh
 
Jinx666 said:
Havent had laptop access but yeah
You seem to constantly keep trying for RWBY characters to win, whether its lynching on their one win con or just constantly changing how things work to fit an argument (Aura, Semblances), and when there is a solid backing and support against them within a thread that looks like a loss, you instantly turn to Stomp so that they dont have an L on their profile. Its happened more than once now come on.

Inasa has the multiple win cons, but Yang still does have the one shot capability, as well as range and experience to not make it completely low diff for Inasa. Just let it be tbh
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This among other reasons.

Not a stomp FRA. The clownery is real up in here.
 
@Jinx I recommend reading our new rules regarding stomps, your opponent being able to oneshot you means nothing when there is no scenario in which they can ever viably do so
 
What a load. You really tattled to a higher up because your precious Yang lost one battle. You are the ONLY person in this entire thread to think this is a stomp. You know how this is gonna look on you as a content mod if this goes through, right?

And I did read the "new rules," and I have yet to find anything conclusive that makes this battle a stomp. Don't tell me to "read harder," because the burden of proof was on you from the beginning to prove that this is a stomp, which you've failed miserably.
 
I have already proven that its a stomp and King, the guy who has been arguing from the start that Yang loses, backed me up on it

No need to devolve into insults
 
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