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Why would RCT of his brain nullify Conquest? All RCT is doing is healing the damage that 24/7 Limitless does to his brain, specifically the right prefrontal cortex. It has never freed him from mind control afaik.First of all, most of her win-cons were debunked, leaving the only viable ones to mind hax (her's is biological and targets the brain, the same thing Gojo destroys and regenerates from consistently.)
Zerochan i think?Where the heck does Pheonks find all this beautiful art though lol
Hanami. Him restoring parts of his brain again consistently would also mean Makima would have to apply it consistently which doesn't work in her favor.Why would RCT of his brain nullify Conquest? All RCT is doing is healing the damage that 24/7 Limitless does to his brain, specifically the right prefrontal cortex. It has never freed him from mind control afaik.
Hanami's pretty-flowers empath hax? That isn't comparable to Conquest at all, and people without RCT (Yuji) have been able to quickly snap out of it.Hanami. Him restoring parts of his brain again consistently would also mean Makima would have to apply it consistently which doesn't work in her favor.
Isn't that most AE type 2?Although CSM AE even the type 2 is pretty shitty since they're still physical embodiments.
I mean it could register cleave and dismantle pretty easily(without domain or space cuts) hence why sukuna had to jump through 40 hoops to be able to slash gojo and cleave and dismantle fall into the same invisible and thought based projectile like bang, I mean they are boredline identical expect that one is a cutting force and the other is a blast like one, hell I'd go as far as saying sukuna's cleave is a lot closer to TK than even blast since makima actually has to aim her finger and say bang while sukuna has shown the ability to just look at you and turn you into meat cubesIt's a TK force projectile, though, if anything. Not sure Infinity covers that.
I mean gojo is basically a massive smurf if you don't have space hax and info hax.If this gets added it will be Gojo's first W somehow. Poor guy never gets any fair fights. His abilities put him in the gray area where you either stomp or get stomped.
Wouldn't Gojo's aura alone tell Maki that Gojo is strong. Gojo had curse users quaking by looking at them as a kid and Yuta's aura had grade 1 sorcerers freezing up with Yuji even confusing it for Gojo's.
that argument fails to take into acount a number fo things as well as putting a number of assumtions out there that have no solid proof.I still don't feel that the arguments against Conquest working are very convincing. This explanation from a blog is a bit of a lengthy one, but it covers my thoughts pretty well:
yeah those profs really need to big fixed cuse holy moly that is like one of the few things that is constantly been smashed over our heads with how CE has an aura to it(plus ya know gojo actually outright showing on panel that he has a flowing massive CE aura around him)Gojo doesn't even currently have aura, don't think we can add matches where the winner wins due to something his profile doesn't even list
That wasn't even 15 finger Sukuna, that scene chronologically coincides with Jogo sensing the presence of the single finger Nanako and Mimiko releasedThe moment sukuna recived his 15th finger and took control of yuji toji who can't see CE(he can "see" cursed spirits but that is not through actually being able to precive the CE they are made up of but seeing the fluctuations in the air and tempreture around the spirits) was able to feel sukuna from the other side of shibuya
Gojo doesn't even currently have aura, don't think we can add matches where the winner wins due to something his profile doesn't even list
~Cursed Energy Manipulation page
- Aura (All sorcerers can produce an aura)
Once again, Makima's is biological. She doesn't effect the mind itself, her form of mind manipulation works by specially targeting the brain.There is no reason to assume it would break a mental grip on him outright.
Probably should list that it's the [Sorcerer] section tho
It shouldn't be there exclusively for sorcerers because cursed spirits and cursed objects can exert an aura tooProbably should list that it's the [Sorcerer] section tho
Oh damn so its even worse than I though? well damn.That wasn't even 15 finger Sukuna, that scene chronologically coincides with Jogo sensing the presence of the single finger Nanako and Mimiko released
This is covered by the argument. I know it's long, but please read all of it.1. gojo has already broken out of a mental ability the flower field of hanami which specifically effects the mind of the opponent and he broke out of it in like 3 seconds flat.
She sees humans the same way humans see dogs. She inherently believes herself to be superior.2. Makima's ability is entirly based on her preciving herself as your supirior
This will likely be removed, but either way just knowing his name won't make her think she isn't superior.she has clairvoyance
This also summarizes my thoughts on her just percieving Gojo as Him.snip
I like how you ignored 90% of my arguments there with the examples of humans not being effected by that ability straight away or at all.She sees humans the same way humans see dogs. She inherently believes herself to be superior.
Hybrids aren't human, and don't fall under her auto-superior train of thought.I like how you ignored 90% of my arguments there with the examples of humans not being effected by that ability straight away or at all.
well if that is your point than what is to stop her from not pressiving gojo as a threat cuse he is "just" a human, untill he shows off his busted bullshit and makes makima question if she could beat him and as such making her question her supiriority to him making control moot?She had no need to Conquer Kishibe because he wasn't a threat to her. She literally tells him "Shooting me is useless.", then Pochita kills her and the fight continues without Kishibe. The Anti-Makima squad hit her with a surprise attack and were killing her in rapid shifts so she couldn't order them or use a Devil.
Because she is bloodlusted, she REALLY wants Gojo done in, so she'll end the fight with her quickest and strongest move, which is Conquest.well if that is your point than what is to stop her from not pressiving gojo as a threat cuse he is "just" a human, untill he shows off his busted bullshit and makes makima question if she could beat him and as such making her question her supiriority to him making control moot?
This is already stated in the argument, it targeting the brain doesn't mean Gojo will be immune for whatever reason.Once again, Makima's is biological. She doesn't effect the mind itself, her form of mind manipulation works by specially targeting the brain.
also forgot to go other this, that arguement is a poor one because it precives the idea that gojo scary two seasoned assasin's with supernatural abilities as an 8 year old is not impressive and fails to take into account all the other examples of CE aura's scary people to death and gojo having one of the biggest and most potent aura's in the verse to the point where him going out for a bit in shibuya caused all curses to be scared shitless of that spot for well over a month.This also summarizes my thoughts on her just percieving Gojo as Him.
Makima cannot sense Cursed Energy.also forgot to go other this, that arguement is a poor one because it precives the idea that gojo scary two seasoned assasin's with supernatural abilities as an 8 year old is not impressive and fails to take into account all the other examples of CE aura's scary people to death and gojo having one of the biggest and most potent aura's in the verse to the point where him going out for a bit in shibuya caused all curses to be scared shitless of that spot for well over a month.
that isn't her strongest move in character and from what she would use if she wants someone dead straight away would be her bang, since THAT is her most powerful offensive move.Because she is bloodlusted, she REALLY wants Gojo done in, so she'll end the fight with her quickest and strongest move, which is Conquest.
dude normal people can. hell mister I got none of that cursed shit fushiguro who can only see CE through air fluctiontions could feel 1 of sukuna's fingers being unsealed from a whole city block away. So makima who already has enchanced senses would most certently feel cursed energy.Makima cannot sense Cursed Energy.
As for a generic bloodlust aura which he may or may not have, Makima was fine in the presence of the Darkness Devil, who was able to drive Fiends like Pingtsi into near-paralysis or attempt suicide, just because they knew it was watching them.
This tbh. Also without prior knowledge Makima has several options that she would think can instantly kill. It's not even guaranteed that conquest comes first. Not that I think it stays either because as soon as it starts either she realizes immediately that the guy matches her or she does something that she thinks will kill, it doesn't and she realizes he isn't a fly.You are treating bloodlusted as some ah yes let me plan out what ability of mine would be most useful in this fight and it isn't that, its BLOODLUST, its " I WANT TO TURN THAT BASTARD INSIDE OUT" which would lead makima into using her bang which is a move she in character constantly uses to kill people quickly or to push out damage as soon as possible so she will be using that first and when she sees that it doesn't reach gojo/doesn't do any damage to gojo she will start second guessing and that is control out the window again.
Give me one time where she actually used control first, not beating the person down and then havin them under her control later.Makima's Conquest is absolutely her strongest card, and the one she tends to play, as long as she isn't hiding her nature as the Conquest Devil.