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This isn't even for infinity.
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Gojo VS Makima • (13-2-1) • Grace
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Yes it is. Infinity is the foundation for all of Gojo's techniques lmao.
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It doesn't matter, the profile mentions this for all applications of infinity except the barrier.
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It's not, it is an undeniable fact that blue and red are just subset powers of infinity. In the profile itself you clearly see it discusses amplifying limitless and negative numbers. Those negative numbers come from infinity.
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Blue and Red are literally derrived from amplifying or reversing Limitless, you can't separate them on a mechanical level
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Read it again, blue is only possible because it can generate the negative numbers from infinity.
Infinity is the engine for all of Gojo's ability. It is the foundational concept through which all of his moves work.
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What a shame the barrier is still without math in the profile so it doesn't matter.
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Damn, this whole discussion was useless due to Gojo's current profile Makima creates Mold in Gojo's brain and Gojo is gone
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the barrier doesn't have mathematics in the profile so it's not usable for the barrier.
Zabazab
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I think Sorcerers are immune to inside spawning or something. So it wouldn't be as useful as say, her bio hax.Damn, this whole discussion was useless due to Gojo's current profile Makima creates Mold in Gojo's brain and Gojo is gone
This doesn't really matter that much though since there is nothing Gojo can do to overcome Makima's starting move- Conquest.
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Immunity to internal attacks only works on attacks with cursed energy.
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What's the current vote count? It's looking like a stomp for Gojo so probably can't be added anyway, so I think we can move to close.
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post the quote that says this or it’s made up by you.
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was it ever actually concluded on if makima would be able to sense gojo's energy at all to possibly make her not feel superior or would she just say "sit" and ggez
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You see in a vacuum of feats, Makima interacts with Gojo's DE the same way an average person does. No better or worse for wear. This is standard for any power, there are exceptions but Makima against DE has nothing to be considered one of them. And Gojo has shown that his can hit things with negligible CE like your average joe.
Other than that it has been 3 pages of discussion so I'll go ahead and vote Gojo for the arguments Dr. White gave, Maitreya gave some that are good too and some of my own.
If not stomp of course.
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They are confused about how vs power works. They think lacking a universal energy system means all of chainsaw stuff is material in nature, despite the devil powers clearly working via abstraction and them literally embodying concepts.
Scottycj256
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lol no
Zabazab
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She can't sense power/strength at all. She'd just tell him to "Down." or even "Die." and it's over.
Magicomethkuon
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And nothing disproves this point so I don't take Makima's conquest as a perfect victory scenario. If you see someone match your speed the moment a fight begins or you try to move your lips, you'd have to be a complete idiot to not feel like that matters at all, which Makima definitely isn't.
And if she does think Gojo is that inferior, she can just as well start with anything else that murders, since in that case she'd be assuming that anything kills. Which in turn Gojo survives and lets her see that he's not inferior.
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Doesn't matter you've already been shown proof that Gojo's aura is not limited to flexing CE.
Scottycj256
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Makima: "Die"
Gojo: "yo bet" Kills his brain and then unkills his brain
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Daido's a regular human who can't manipulate cursed energy and he still exerted an aura that caused everyone around him to freeze up, Kid Gojo could do the same to some curse users by just glaring at them.
Zabazab
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It's not just about CE. She can't sense auras either. If you wanna say that she COULD feels his bloodlust- so what? She can feel that he wants to kill her, lots of people feel that way about Makima, but fall under Conquest anyway.
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Doesn’t matter, she doesnmt need to aense aura just his bloodlust.
Guess how Gojo begins here?
You have yet to substantiate Makima’s miraculous resistances here all the while ignoring the blatant ability for humans to be impacted. She isn’t conquering kid gojo let alone adult gojo
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So far I believe about 7 votes are in favor of Gojo.
Me, @azontr @Magicomethkuon @LordGinSama @Dr._whiteee @SunDaGamer @Scottycj256
There might be more but idk how many votes Makima currently has.
Edit: Grace has been reached.
Me, @azontr @Magicomethkuon @LordGinSama @Dr._whiteee @SunDaGamer @Scottycj256
There might be more but idk how many votes Makima currently has.
Edit: Grace has been reached.
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Count me in for Gojo too
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Yall downplay Gojo way too hard and simp for Makima way too much.
First of all, most of her win-cons were debunked, leaving the only viable ones to mind hax (her's is biological and targets the brain, the same thing Gojo destroys and regenerates from consistently.) and possibly her internal abilities which wouldn't quite work because
A: RCT is a thing
B: A sorcerer's body acts as a domain so you'd need evidence this hax could work on someone with a domain like body.
Last but not least, can we stop acting like Gojo is useless without his defensive applications? It's almost like he can't reverse the infinity, causing vaporization, Red, Blue (allowing him to blitz her via pseudo speed amps.), Purple which is still accepted as void manipulation and UV still yeets Makima since she has no evidence of transferring damage to her soul.
First of all, most of her win-cons were debunked, leaving the only viable ones to mind hax (her's is biological and targets the brain, the same thing Gojo destroys and regenerates from consistently.) and possibly her internal abilities which wouldn't quite work because
A: RCT is a thing
B: A sorcerer's body acts as a domain so you'd need evidence this hax could work on someone with a domain like body.
Last but not least, can we stop acting like Gojo is useless without his defensive applications? It's almost like he can't reverse the infinity, causing vaporization, Red, Blue (allowing him to blitz her via pseudo speed amps.), Purple which is still accepted as void manipulation and UV still yeets Makima since she has no evidence of transferring damage to her soul.
Scottycj256
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I'm also in favor of Gojo
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Both are quite literally type 3 concept AE type 2.
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It was an interview in which Gege answers a question about why Hanami doesn't teleport her plants into the enemy but it doesn't matter since resistance to teleportation isn't in the profile
Gojo falls dead.
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CSM are type 2.
Zabazab
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Ok, we'll say Gojo has an aura that can somehow be sensed by Makima despite not being on his profile, and it seemingly never affecting anyone lacking the appropriate senses.
Why would Makima react by thinking "I'm not superior?" She literally walked up to and used her bio hax on the Darkness Devil despite other Devils in hell being paralyzed with fear or begging for permission to commit suicide just because it was watching them. She couldn't control it due to her already knowing she was inferior as she had knowledge of the Darkness Devil, but that isn't the case with Gojo.
Why would Makima react by thinking "I'm not superior?" She literally walked up to and used her bio hax on the Darkness Devil despite other Devils in hell being paralyzed with fear or begging for permission to commit suicide just because it was watching them. She couldn't control it due to her already knowing she was inferior as she had knowledge of the Darkness Devil, but that isn't the case with Gojo.
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Not quite, it depends on the concept in particular. Some embody type 3 (most of them.), then you get into shit like the stronger Devils like the 4 horseman, and the Primordial's whom can between type 2 and type 3. Although CSM AE even the type 2 is pretty shitty since they're still physical embodiments.
KingNanaya
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you can put me in for gojo ig
Da3ggman
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I'm down for Gobro
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