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God Zamasu Mid Godly regeneration removal

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Nullflowerblush said:
Weird, they've never seen the Hakai.


That is just how Beerus talks. This isn't "semantic abuse", this is reading. He uses the word "destroy" in reference to his Destruction technique. Why is that such a difficult notion to grasp?
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Goku asks him if he has a technique to put Zamasu down, beerus says "No, I can't kill immortals" implying he cannot use hakai since trunks/Vegeta call hakai a technique. I think its just the wording ngl
 
DemarSL said:
Goku asks him if he has a technique to put Zamasu down, beerus says "No, I can't kill immortals" implying he cannot use hakai since trunks/Vegeta call hakai a technique. I think its just the wording ngl
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Hakai is an technique if beerus says he doesn't have a technique to kill immortals then he doesn't
 
Nullflowerblush said:
That is just how Beerus talks. This isn't "semantic abuse", this is reading. He uses the word "destroy" in reference to his Destruction technique. Why is that such a difficult notion to grasp?
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Yes it is. You're trying to imply Beerus' hakai can't kill even though we clearly see it doing it. Besides, Beerus said he'll destroy Frieza along with his soul if he wouldn't cooperate with the rest, so yeah, both body and soul destruction
 
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IIrc, Beerus said: No, i can't kill that immortal. Sematically speaking like the rest of people on this thread, Beerus mean he can't kill/erase/destroy the level of Zamasu's immortality
 
The whole "Oh, the villains always boasted about erasing their opponents" point is completely irrelevant here. Beerus uses the word "kill" in reference to everyday attacks and murder, and only ever uses the word "destroy" when referencing the Hakai. When Beerus references the Hakai, the only word he uses is "destroy", not "kill", not "obliterate", not "annihilate". They may be synonyms, but the way Beerus uses them is completely different from the way we use them.
 
Nullflowerblush said:
The whole "Oh, the villains always boasted about erasing their opponents" point is completely irrelevant here. Beerus uses the word "kill" in reference to everyday attacks and murder, and only ever uses the word "destroy" when referencing the Hakai. When Beerus references the Hakai, the only word he uses is "destroy", not "kill", not "obliterate", not "annihilate". They may be synonyms, but the way Beerus uses them is completely different from the way we use them.
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Beerus itself threatened Goku and co in BOG that he would "destroy" Earth. And he always "destroys" planets by a large Ki blast, he doesn't outright Hakai them as shown on multiple occasions.
 
Chill out everyone, smh

Anyways, Beerus pretty much did state that he can’t kill immortals in any possible way, including Hakai. As for the destruction of mind stuff, seems a little vague to assume that the mind is pretty much destroyed without any sources saying so. So I guess low godly is fine considering it means to regenerate from either mind or soul, and mid godly means pretty much both.
 
Low godly is physical destruction though. Zamasu can regen from the soul so idk the regen page is kinda confusing for zamasu
 
Coolboy6 said:
Chill out everyone, smh

Anyways, Beerus pretty much did state that he can’t kill immortals in any possible way, including Hakai. As for the destruction of mind stuff, seems a little vague to assume that the mind is pretty much destroyed without any sources saying so. So I guess low godly is fine considering it means to regenerate from either mind or soul, and mid godly means pretty much both.
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The Hakai can bypass Low Godly since it's a full fledged EE.

Also again, the Mind depends on the Brain.
 
DemarSL said:
Low godly is physical destruction though. Zamasu can regen from the soul so idk the regen page is kinda confusing for zamasu
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Zamasu one is high end low godly more potent than others who can just Regenerate with physical body destruction but definitely not mid Godly.
 
Greenshifter said:
Again, it doesn't. People in irl-based verses also get an abstract soul due to equalizing how these things work.
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Again, it does. It being abstract doesn't mean it's completely independent from everything else. Hell, even concepts aren't always independent (aside from Type 1s). Just look at type 3 concepts.

IRL, we know, thanks to studies, that the mind is a byproduct of the brain. We follow that logic unless proven otherwise .
 
Ottavio_Merluzzo said:
Again, it does. It being abstract doesn't mean it's completely independent from everything else. Hell, even concepts aren't always independent (aside from Type 1s). Just look at type 3 concepts.

IRL, we know, thanks to studies, that the mind is a byproduct of the brain. We follow that logic unless proven otherwise .
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That is true. Most verses don't specify the "mind" as a seperate abstract part of the being like body or soul
 
Nightmare_Bloodfallen said:
Zamasu one is high end low godly more potent than others who can just Regenerate with physical body destruction but definitely not mid Godly.
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It’s not mid godly or low godly though. If anything it’s closer to mid godly than low godly lmao. It has 2 out of the 3 things to qualify for mid godly.
 
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