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The majority conclusions are that the OP somewhat misunderstood the premise of Mid-Godly Regeneration and all points and evidences have pointed to Zamasu keeps Mid-Godly which mainly participants agree withWhat are the conclusions here so far?
Ottavio (and others) brought up a good point probably, mind and soul being linked due to Ginyu’s soulhax also affecting the mind. As such Hakai erasing the soul would also erase the mind. Letting Zamasu keep his current regen. We should probably note that somewhere, maybe Ginyu’s page or smth.What are the conclusions here so far?
I will try to reply later. I need to check out all arguments I was kinda busy.What are the conclusions here so far?
Okay. Would somebody here be willing to handle that please?Ottavio (and others) brought up a good point probably, mind and soul being linked due to Ginyu’s soulhax also affecting the mind. As such Hakai erasing the soul would also erase the mind. Letting Zamasu keep his current regen. We should probably note that somewhere, maybe Ginyu’s page or smth.
Can you give me the chapter number. I will read it myself.Ginyu using soul hax to switch bodies with Goku also affected his mind.
Same thing happened with Zamasu.
It should be chapter 273Can you give me the chapter number. I will read it myself.
Hey, the books say "consciousness" and "body and mind".
That extra soul-based pizzazz takes extra evidence.
That’s like saying assuming gokus hair is keratin is head canon. It’s literally common sense. You only assume his hair is made of like, vibranium or some shit when there is evidence to the contraryFunny how you are saying nitpicking when you just making an assumption without proof for brain and mind being same.
Probably because they mentioned the body transfer by Ginyu earlier.Not sure how, when and why did this become Ginyu all of a sudden
Anyways,
How you apply this in Z and the Super would be very contentious
In Z, Ginyu's body change points out that it affects Consciousness and Mind, great so No Soul
How would you apply this to DB Super Resurrection F?
Does this mean that Ginyu is still alive since his Soul is inside his original body and its just his mind that has been destroyed?
Is Tagoma alive or dead? Because his Mind is in a Frog while his Body was nuked by Vegeta which supposedly Togama's soul is still inside of going by your angle
It was from Greenshift mentioning it to being specific.Ottavio (and others) brought up a good point probably, mind and soul being linked due to Ginyu’s soulhax also affecting the mind. As such Hakai erasing the soul would also erase the mind. Letting Zamasu keep his current regen. We should probably note that somewhere, maybe Ginyu’s page or smth.
It depends. Hakai was specifically stated and show to erasing the body and soul. It never really mention mind in the statements I have see about it.In Z, Ginyu's body change points out that it affects Consciousness and Mind, great so No Soul
How would you apply this to DB Super Resurrection F?
Does this mean that Ginyu is still alive since his Soul is inside his original body and its just his mind that has been destroyed?
Is Tagoma alive or dead? Because his Mind is in a Frog while his Body was nuked by Vegeta which supposedly Togama's soul is still inside of going by your angle
That was because Goku's hakai was interrupted when Zamasu grabbed Mai, forcing Goku to stopIt depends. Hakai was specifically stated and show to erasing the body and soul. It never really mention mind in the statements I have see about it.
Also not to mention, I do remember see a scan that show Zamasu’s body being erased although it wasn’t completely erased in the QA for this.
Ginyu's Body Change shouldn't be equated to SS Body ChangeIt depends. Hakai was specifically stated and show to erasing the body and soul. It never really mention mind in the statements I have see about it.
Also not to mention, I do remember see a scan that show Zamasu’s body being erased although it wasn’t completely erased in the QA for this.
Wait, which manga chapter is this from? It is probably better if you got scans to come along with this especially if it does mention mind in there too.Ginyu's Body Change shouldn't be equated to SS Body Change
Zamasu asked for his and goku's body to be swapped and then Goku black pointed out that his Divine Soul was inside goku's body and obviously his mind went into Goku's Body as well
If the transference of Soul consequently affects the Mind then erasure of the Soul would also erase the Mind it's linked to
AlsoIt depends. Hakai was specifically stated and show to erasing the body and soul. It never really mention mind in the statements
That is specifically say Soul, but all is kinda vague since the translations will have to being confirmed for that.Also
According to the Hermes Translations, The Hakai can erase "Soul and All"
Where will the mind go?Fusion Zamasu (DBS Manga)
Fusion Zamasu (合体がったい ザマス, Gattai Zamasu?) is a fusion born of the union between Goku Black (Present Zamasu in Goku's body) and Future Zamasu through the Potara earrings. After nearly unfusing, he gained the ability to multiply, requiring Goku to summon Zeno to kill him once and for all. Tier...vsbattles.fandom.com
Regeneration
Regeneration, often referred to as a healing factor, is the ability to passively heal oneself from wounds at an accelerated rate, with many characters proving capable of regenerating from wounds that would be lethal to normal humans. It has several different levels that range in potency from...vsbattles.fandom.com
Mid-Godly: The ability to regenerate from the complete erasure of body, mind, and soul.
Wiki standard states characters needs to be completely erased & Regenerate on body soul and mind but Hakai never stated to erase characters on that level. So I am suggesting to remove Mid Godly regeneration and replace with Low Godly regeneration.
Or
Revise Regeneration page and remove mind thing so that Zamasu can Keep his Regeneration tier. For now per wiki standard his Regeneration should be downgraded to low godly.
Please tag few staff who are knowledgeable on Regeneration page.Okay, so should we close this thread then?
@Sir_Ovens @Phoenks @Elizhaa @Damage3245 @Migue79 @Psychomaster35Please tag few staff who are knowledgeable on Regeneration page.
May I see the scans for this first statement, please?Ottavio (and others) brought up a good point probably, mind and soul being linked due to Ginyu’s soulhax also affecting the mind. As such Hakai erasing the soul would also erase the mind. Letting Zamasu keep his current regen. We should probably note that somewhere, maybe Ginyu’s page or smth.
Null linked it earlier when it came to the one for Ginyu plus another statement from official sources outside of the mangaHey, the books say "consciousness" and "body and mind".
That extra soul-based pizzazz takes extra evidence.
Zamasu's regeneration seems fine to keep, based on what I read.@Sir_Ovens @Phoenks @Elizhaa @Damage3245 @Migue79 @Psychomaster35
Would any of you be willing to help out a bit here?
Zamasu's regeneration seems fine to keep, based on what I read.
Hey, the books say "consciousness" and "body and mind".
That extra soul-based pizzazz takes extra evidence.
^ Kindly review these.Post in thread 'God Zamasu Mid Godly regeneration removal'
https://vsbattles.com/threads/god-zamasu-mid-godly-regeneration-removal.137596/post-4818174
Including this one.
Jesus Christ the word mind is synonymous with brain.
Buu's mind can survive the destruction of his brain.Unfortunately the OP seems to not understand this
He must be thinking that since the mind is abstract in a sense, it can survive the destruction of the brain even if DB makes it clear that they dont operate under Touhou Logic or that the mind can survive the destruction of the brain because the mind was "not specifically stated" to have been destroyed/erased (which is clear-cut nitpicking)