God Zamasu Mid Godly regeneration removal

[Zencha9]

Now hear me out...

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

Now hear me out...

The Mafuba failed only because Goku forgot the seal. If he'd have the seal even the Mafuba will be enough to seal him

 

[DemarSL]

Goku battle IQ downgrade since he forgot the seal/s

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

did you like fail biology class? genuinely asking

Lmao why don't you send scan instead of starting to attack someone.

 

[Nullflowerblush]

READ. THE BOLD.

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

Crazy how he started attacking me then here you calling me poisoning something. That's great.

So stop being rude and prove your claim

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

You did made a positive claim since you claim that Zamasu's being was not completely erased and his mind remained. You need to prove it is different for it to work

I said i don't see any scans stating mind getting erased. It's your burden of proof to prove his mind getting erased.

 

[Ottavio_Merluzzo]

Crazy how he started attacking me then here you calling me poisoning something. That's great.

I did not attack you. This is really offensive. You should stop attacking the others instead.

 

[Zencha9]

Lmao why don't you send scan instead of starting to attack someone.

sure

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

So stop being rude and prove your claim

Who is rude ?

Because that's simply how it works. Unless you also have a mind separate from the brain... Lucky you, ig.

Can't read?

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

READ. THE BOLD.

Erase and Destroy is equivalent to Kill. When Beerus said he'd erase or kill, he meant that he'll kill them with hakai

 

[Ottavio_Merluzzo]

There's stuff like the Z Sword which Beerus could seal Zamasu in. This was how the Old Kai was sealed

Beerus can seal?

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

Beerus can seal?

Yes. Old Kai said he was the one who sealed him

 

[DemarSL]

So beerus says he can't kill Zamasu but is fully aware he can erase him? Why would he do that

 

[Ottavio_Merluzzo]

Can't read?

The mind is not separate from the brain and everyone who knows a little bit of biology knows that. I am not the one who decided that, experts did.

That is no where close to an attack, the one who's being offensive is you and right now you insulted me again, proving my point.

 

[Rez]

READ. THE BOLD.

"We have something more convenient than [the Mafuba]".

This part?
This too doesn't work because mafuba never actually failed against Zamasu and in the context of the sentence they are talking about sealing so no assuming that it for some reason is refering to hakai is just capping. Also it undermines the fact that beerus literally stated hakai can't kill immortals.

 

[Rez]

Why do all Zamasu CRT's have to be a mess?

 

[Greenshifter]

About the OP, the mind comes from the brain, so you can guess what happens to the former if the latter is erased

That reasoning doesn't work. A mind is an abstract something, like Zamasu's "will". His brain getting erased won't result in his abstract mind also getting erased.

 

[deonment]

how many zamasu regen downgrade threads have there been overall at this point, i think this is like the 5th after the heroes one

 

[Ruphas_Mafahl123]

Now hear me out...

He said in the anime aswell..
And Ialso DBH isn't in any way releated to the manga tho

 

[Ottavio_Merluzzo]

That reasoning doesn't work. A mind is an abstract something, like Zamasu's "will". His brain getting erased won't result in his abstract mind also getting erased.

The mind is abstract, yes, but that abstract thing Is generated from the brain.

The mind's existence is completely depending on the brain's.

 

[DemarSL]

Why was we talking about the anime anyways?

 

[Nullflowerblush]

This part?
This too doesn't work because mafuba never actually failed against Zamasu and in the context of the sentence they are talking about sealing so no assuming that it for some reason is refering to hakai is just capping. Also it undermines the fact that beerus literally stated hakai can't kill immortals.

Does that look like bold to you?

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

The mind is not separate from the brain and everyone who knows a little bit of biology knows that. I am not the one who decided that, experts did.

That is no where close to an attack, the one who's being offensive is you and right now you insulted me again, proving my point.

Crazy when I clearly explained physical destruction alone would destroy brain also & wiki Regeneration page still states or considers as something non physical aspects you keep saying brain and mind are without proving anything and now trying to insult me based on real life explanation for biology when I clearly mentioned wiki explaination and reality are two different things. If you can't understand different between both don't even reply to me.

 

[deonment]

He said in the anime aswell..
And Ialso DBH isn't in any way releated to the manga tho

i said overall, as in all versions of zamasu

 

[Ottavio_Merluzzo]

Crazy when I clearly explained physical destruction alone would destroy brain also & wiki Regeneration page still states or considers as something non physical aspects you keep saying brain and mind are without proving anything and now trying to insult me based on real life explanation for biology when I clearly mentioned wiki explaination and reality are two different things. If you can't understand different between both don't even reply to me.

Again, I did not insult you. Stop lying, that is an insult on its own towards me. I won't be so lenient from now on.

 

[Rez]

Furthermore, when the Hakai is mentioned, the words "erase" and "destroy" are used exclusively, but never "kill".

That's just nitpicking at it's finest.

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

That reasoning doesn't work. A mind is an abstract something, like Zamasu's "will". His brain getting erased won't result in his abstract mind also getting erased.

Proof that Zamasu has an "abstract mind"? Especially when most verses doesn't seperate mind from soul?

 

[Greenshifter]

The mind is abstract, yes, but that abstract thing Is generated from the brain.

The mind's existence is completely depending on the brain's.

Hmm I've never seen it argued like that. I'm pretty sure everything with a regen level above mid contradicts that the mind gets destroyed if the brain does though.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Proof that Zamasu has an "abstract mind"? Especially when most verses doesn't seperate mind from soul?

Proof is wiki explanation page.

 

[Greenshifter]

Proof that Zamasu has an "abstract mind"? Especially when most verses doesn't seperate mind from soul?

It does, there are statements of ki being the power of the mind and soul iirc. Differentiating between the 2. Zamasu's will would be an example of an abstract mind.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Hmm I've never seen it argued like that. I'm pretty sure everything with a regen level above mid contradicts that the mind gets destroyed if the brain does though.

Ikr. How people are trying to compare brain and mind in wiki lmao

 

[Ottavio_Merluzzo]

It does, there are statements of ki being the power of the mind and soul iirc. Differentiating between the 2. Zamasu's will would be an example of an abstract mind.

Zamasu's will stuff is tied to IS, which is anime only.

 

[Nullflowerblush]

Erase and Destroy is equivalent to Kill. When Beerus said he'd erase or kill, he meant that he'll kill them with hakai

No, no, no, no. Not "erase or kill", "erase and kill". The two terms are distinct.

When Beerus threatened to kill Goku and blow up the planet, he shouted: "Now die, along with your planet". When Beerus threatened to kill Vegeta, he remarked that: "I'll obliterate you, too", in reference to the Genocide of the Saiyans. When Beerus announced his plans to use the Hakai on Zamasu, though, he said: "I'm going to destroy Zamas while I can..."

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

It does, there are statements of ki being the power of the mind and soul iirc. Differentiating between the 2. Zamasu's will would be an example of an abstract mind.

Can you show the scans?

 

[Ottavio_Merluzzo]

Zamasu's will stuff is tied to IS, which is anime only.

Also, If. Zamasu's mind is abstract on that level, it would simply be a feat for him. Which could either leave the regen as it is, or it could upgrade it.

 

[DemarSL]

No, no, no, no. Not "erase or kill", "erase and kill". The two terms are distinct.

When Beerus threatened to kill Goku and blow up the planet, he shouted: "Now die, along with your planet". When Beerus threatened to kill Vegeta, he remarked that: "I'll obliterate you, too", in reference to the Genocide of the Saiyans. When Beerus announced his plans to use the Hakai on Zamasu, though, he said: "I'm going to destroy Zamas while I can..."

(They're talking about Goku using hakai aka Beerus's technique.)

 

[Ruphas_Mafahl123]

No, no, no, no. Not "erase or kill", "erase and kill". The two terms are distinct.

When Beerus threatened to kill Goku and blow up the planet, he shouted: "Now die, along with your planet". When Beerus threatened to kill Vegeta, he remarked that: "I'll obliterate you, too", in reference to the Genocide of the Saiyans. When Beerus announced his plans to use the Hakai on Zamasu, though, he said: "I'm going to destroy Zamas while I can..."

In DBZ, when Villians wanted to kill someone they said things like; "I'm going to erase you with this attack"

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

No, no, no, no. Not "erase or kill", "erase and kill". The two terms are distinct.

When Beerus threatened to kill Goku and blow up the planet, he shouted: "Now die, along with your planet". When Beerus threatened to kill Vegeta, he remarked that: "I'll obliterate you, too", in reference to the Genocide of the Saiyans. When Beerus announced his plans to use the Hakai on Zamasu, though, he said: "I'm going to destroy Zamas while I can..."

These are all synonyms. When Beerus said he'd erase someone, he meant that he'll kill them. Erase = Kill when regarding the hakai.

 

[Rez]

This thread is just nitpicking at it's finest.