God Zamasu Mid Godly regeneration removal

[Ottavio_Merluzzo]

Non physical aspects* destroying physical body soul destroy the brain how would brain be there.

It's your burden of proof to show me scans where it's stated mind also getting erased.

For now Zamasu regeneration thing is low godly

Fundamental knowledge of biology is not "headcanon". The Mind is assumed to be contained within the brain, insofar as the setting does state not otherwise.

 

[Ottavio_Merluzzo]

Appeal to reality and prove wiki follows same things. Also show me scans where it's states erasing soul in DB means erasing mind.

My man, the burden of proof is on you.

 

[Nullflowerblush]

Wait.

Beerus stated that he could not "kill" immortals. That part is obvious. But then Whis chines and claims that "We have something more convenient than [the Mafuba]". He wouldn't be referencing a sealing technique, as the Mafuba already failed against Zamasu. Furthermore, when the Hakai is mentioned, the words "erase" and "destroy" are used exclusively, but never "kill".

• Chapter 18
• Chapter 19
• Chapter 32
• Chapter 69
• Chapter 70
• Chapter 70

Maybe immortals cannot survive a Hakai. Goku's botched imitation of the Hakai instilled terror in Zamasu, so...

 

[Rez]

Appeal to reality and prove wiki follows same things. Also show me scans where it's states erasing soul in DB means erasing mind.

No it's you who has to prove mind is not an part of brain in db and is something more abstract.

 

[DemarSL]

Wait.

Beerus stated that he could not "kill" immortals. That part is obvious. But then Whis chines and claims that "We have something more convenient than [the Mafuba]". He wouldn't be referencing a sealing technique, as the Mafuba already failed against Zamasu. Furthermore, when the Hakai is mentioned, the words "erase" and "destroy" are used exclusively, but never "kill".

• Chapter 18
• Chapter 19
• Chapter 32
• Chapter 69
• Chapter 70
• Chapter 70

Maybe immortals cannot survive a Hakai. Goku's botched imitation of the Hakai instilled terror in Zamasu, so...

Mafuba failed on Zamasu? Didn't they botch it because they forgot the seal? Thats what the anime said at least.

 

[Rez]

Wait.

Beerus stated that he could not "kill" immortals. That part is obvious. But then Whis chines and claims that "We have something more convenient than [the Mafuba]". He wouldn't be referencing a sealing technique, as the Mafuba already failed against Zamasu. Furthermore, when the Hakai is mentioned, the words "erase" and "destroy" are used exclusively, but never "kill".

• Chapter 18
• Chapter 19
• Chapter 32
• Chapter 69
• Chapter 70
• Chapter 70

Maybe immortals cannot survive a Hakai. Goku's botched imitation of the Hakai instilled terror in Zamasu, so...

Man that cap pfp suits you pretty darn well

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

My man, the burden of proof is on you.

I haven't made any positive claim when you made claim that brain and mind are same prove it. I am only following wiki explanation

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

Mind is generally assumed to be a part of the brain/consciousness. Some verses treat it as a seperate thing from the soul but most don't

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

No it's you who has to prove mind is not an part of brain in db and is something more abstract.

I haven't claimed anything it's your burden made the postive claim for brain and mind are same in DB without any scans.

 

[Ottavio_Merluzzo]

Maybe immortals cannot survive a Hakai. Goku's botched imitation of the Hakai instilled terror in Zamasu, so...

Again, Zamasu has 0 reasons to be aware of his level of regen.

Even if Whis had somehow a better EE that could erase him, that would be a regeneration negation feat for him, similar to Hearts's.

 

[Ottavio_Merluzzo]

I haven't claimed anything it's your burden made the postive claim for brain and mind are same in DB without any scans.

This is not how the wiki works, and all you're doing is nitpicking the regeneration page.

Mind is generally assumed to be a part of the brain/consciousness. Some verses treat it as a seperate thing from the soul but most don't

This is how it works here. My apologies OP.

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

Mafuba failed on Zamasu? Didn't they botch it because they forgot the seal? Thats what the anime said at least.

Pretty sure they simply forgot the seal

 

[deonment]

I haven't made any positive claim when you made claim that brain and mind are same prove it. I am only following wiki explanation

You are literally going against real-life, snap back to reality

 

[Nullflowerblush]

How would it be Regeneration Negation if the grounds for Regeneration are moot?

Also, Angel? Existence Erasure?

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Mind is generally assumed to be a part of the brain/consciousness. Some verses treat it as a seperate thing from the soul but most don't

Prove DB mind and brain are same with scans Offcourse different verses different rules. If you don't have scans for mind being brain in DB thats just assumption and headcanon and appeal to reality. Just so in real life we treat brain as mind doesn't mean same applies in fiction especially for wiki standard explaination.

Also it's clearly mentioned non physical aspects*. Brain exist in physical body.

 

[Ruphas_Mafahl123]

oh yeah beerus said it

iirc he said the same thing in the manga aswell..

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

This is not how the wiki works, and all you're doing is nitpicking the regeneration page.

This is how it works here. My apologies OP.

Funny how you are saying nitpicking when you just making an assumption without proof for brain and mind being same.

 

[Rez]

How would it be Regeneration Negation if the grounds for Regeneration are moot?

So you are saying beerus is an unreliable source of information?

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

Prove DB mind and brain are same with scans Offcourse different verses different rules. If you don't have scans for mind being brain in DB thats just assumption and headcanon and appeal to reality. Just so in real life we treat brain as mind doesn't mean same applies in fiction especially for wiki standard explaination.

It's not assumption. That's just how mind works. I already explained it to you why mind is usually not seperate from soul

Also it's clearly mentioned non physical aspects*. Brain exist in physical body.

You clearly ignored consciousness if you think that

 

[Ottavio_Merluzzo]

Funny how you are saying nitpicking when you just making an assumption without proof for brain and mind being same.

Because that's simply how it works. Unless you also have a mind separate from the brain... Lucky you, ig.

 

[DemarSL]

Goku brought a coupon instead of the seal? oh wow lol

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

It's not assumption. That's just how mind works. I already explained it to you why mind is usually not seperate from soul

You clearly ignored consciousness if you think that

Prove brain is non physical aspects Otherwise it's still an assumption.

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

Yeah, this is why Zamasu escaped, not because sealing doesn't work on him

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

Prove brain is non physical aspects Otherwise it's still an assumption.

Since when consciousness is physical??? I'm legit asking since what you say makes no sense

 

[DemarSL]

So, whats stopping us from thinking this is some sort of god like seal..?

 

[Nullflowerblush]

So you are saying beerus is an unreliable source of information?

Did you even read the post?

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Because that's simply how it works. Unless you also have a mind separate from the brain... Lucky you, ig.

DB fandom When they can't prove a thing.

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

So, whats stopping us from thinking this is some sort of god like seal..?

There's stuff like the Z Sword which Beerus could seal Zamasu in. This was how the Old Kai was sealed

 

[Paul_Frank]

Prove DB mind and brain are same with scans Offcourse different verses different rules. If you don't have scans for mind being brain in DB thats just assumption and headcanon and appeal to reality. Just so in real life we treat brain as mind doesn't mean same applies in fiction especially for wiki standard explaination.

Also it's clearly mentioned non physical aspects*. Brain exist in physical body.

No, it is up to you to use scans and prove an exception, that DB mind isnt in the brain, or related to the soul or anything, you'd have to prove its a completely seperate metaphysical aspect somewhere else and wasn't erased

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

DB fandom When they can't prove a thing.

Poisoning the well aren't we? This isn't looking good for you

 

[Nullflowerblush]

So, whats stopping us from thinking this is some sort of god like seal..?

Narratively speaking, they hyped up the Hakai, they introduced the Hakai, and they continued to allude to the Hakai and Beerus destroying people throughout the saga. Why this would be a mysterious godly seal not yet seen or foreshadowed instead of the Hakai is beyond me.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

No, it is up to you to use scans and prove an exception, that DB mind isnt in the brain, or related to the soul or anything, you'd have to prove its a completely seperate metaphysical aspect somewhere else and wasn't erased

I haven't made any positive claim it's for DB fandom to back up their reason for mid godly regeneration for Zamasu not my burden. I just asked for proof. And dropped wiki explanation

 

[Zencha9]

DB fandom When they can't prove a thing.

did you like fail biology class? genuinely asking

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

Narratively speaking, they hyped up the Hakai, they introduced the Hakai, and they continued to allude to the Hakai and Beerus destroying people throughout the saga. Why this would be a mysterious godly seal instead of the Hakai is beyond me.

Because Beerus stated he can't erase immortal beings such as Zamasu, needing him to use something else

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Poisoning the well aren't we? This isn't looking good for you

Crazy how he started attacking me then here you calling me poisoning something. That's great.

 

[DemarSL]

Narratively speaking, they hyped up the Hakai, they introduced the Hakai, and they continued to allude to the Hakai and Beerus destroying people throughout the saga. Why this would be a mysterious godly seal instead of the Hakai is beyond me.

because beerus can't kill immortals sssssss,

 

[Nullflowerblush]

Wait.

Beerus stated that he could not "kill" immortals. That part is obvious. But then Whis chines and claims that "We have something more convenient than [the Mafuba]". He wouldn't be referencing a sealing technique, as the Mafuba already failed against Zamasu. Furthermore, when the Hakai is mentioned, the words "erase" and "destroy" are used exclusively, but never "kill".

• Chapter 18
• Chapter 19
• Chapter 32
• Chapter 69
• Chapter 70
• Chapter 70

Maybe immortals cannot survive a Hakai. Goku's botched imitation of the Hakai instilled terror in Zamasu, so...

Now hear me out...

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

I haven't made any positive claim it's for DB fandom to back up their reason for mid godly regeneration for Zamasu not my burden. I just asked for proof. And dropped wiki explanation

You did made a positive claim since you claim that Zamasu's being was not completely erased and his mind remained. You need to prove it is different for it to work

 

[DemarSL]

Anyways the only thing that fully put zamasu down was the strongest attack in Dragon ball history lol

 

[Rez]

Wait.

Beerus stated that he could not "kill" immortals. That part is obvious. But then Whis chines and claims that "We have something more convenient than [the Mafuba]". He wouldn't be referencing a sealing technique, as the Mafuba already failed against Zamasu. Furthermore, when the Hakai is mentioned, the words "erase" and "destroy" are used exclusively, but never "kill".

• Chapter 18
• Chapter 19
• Chapter 32
• Chapter 69
• Chapter 70
• Chapter 70

Maybe immortals cannot survive a Hakai. Goku's botched imitation of the Hakai instilled terror in Zamasu, so...

Did you even read the post?

This one? Yes I did and the mafuba only failed because Goku is an idiot and forgot the seal. The only this argument is gonna work is if beerus is considered to be a less reliable source of information.