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God Zamasu Mid Godly regeneration removal
- Thread starter EldemadeDityjon
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My man, the burden of proof is on you.
Nullflowerblush
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Wait.
Beerus stated that he could not "kill" immortals. That part is obvious. But then Whis chines and claims that "We have something more convenient than [the Mafuba]". He wouldn't be referencing a sealing technique, as the Mafuba already failed against Zamasu. Furthermore, when the Hakai is mentioned, the words "erase" and "destroy" are used exclusively, but never "kill".
Maybe immortals cannot survive a Hakai. Goku's botched imitation of the Hakai instilled terror in Zamasu, so...
Beerus stated that he could not "kill" immortals. That part is obvious. But then Whis chines and claims that "We have something more convenient than [the Mafuba]". He wouldn't be referencing a sealing technique, as the Mafuba already failed against Zamasu. Furthermore, when the Hakai is mentioned, the words "erase" and "destroy" are used exclusively, but never "kill".
Maybe immortals cannot survive a Hakai. Goku's botched imitation of the Hakai instilled terror in Zamasu, so...
Rez
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No it's you who has to prove mind is not an part of brain in db and is something more abstract.
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Mafuba failed on Zamasu? Didn't they botch it because they forgot the seal? Thats what the anime said at least.
Rez
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Man that cap pfp suits you pretty darn well
EldemadeDityjon
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I haven't made any positive claim when you made claim that brain and mind are same prove it. I am only following wiki explanation
Gilad_Hyperstar
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Mind is generally assumed to be a part of the brain/consciousness. Some verses treat it as a seperate thing from the soul but most don't
EldemadeDityjon
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Again, Zamasu has 0 reasons to be aware of his level of regen.
Even if Whis had somehow a better EE that could erase him, that would be a regeneration negation feat for him, similar to Hearts's.
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This is not how the wiki works, and all you're doing is nitpicking the regeneration page.
This is how it works here. My apologies OP.
Gilad_Hyperstar
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Nullflowerblush
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How would it be Regeneration Negation if the grounds for Regeneration are moot?
Also, Angel? Existence Erasure?
Also, Angel? Existence Erasure?
EldemadeDityjon
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Prove DB mind and brain are same with scans Offcourse different verses different rules. If you don't have scans for mind being brain in DB thats just assumption and headcanon and appeal to reality. Just so in real life we treat brain as mind doesn't mean same applies in fiction especially for wiki standard explaination.
Also it's clearly mentioned non physical aspects*. Brain exist in physical body.
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iirc he said the same thing in the manga aswell..
EldemadeDityjon
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Funny how you are saying nitpicking when you just making an assumption without proof for brain and mind being same.
Rez
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So you are saying beerus is an unreliable source of information?
Gilad_Hyperstar
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It's not assumption. That's just how mind works. I already explained it to you why mind is usually not seperate from soul
You clearly ignored consciousness if you think that
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Because that's simply how it works. Unless you also have a mind separate from the brain... Lucky you, ig.
EldemadeDityjon
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Prove brain is non physical aspects Otherwise it's still an assumption.
Gilad_Hyperstar
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Yeah, this is why Zamasu escaped, not because sealing doesn't work on him
Gilad_Hyperstar
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Since when consciousness is physical??? I'm legit asking since what you say makes no sense
Nullflowerblush
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EldemadeDityjon
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DB fandom When they can't prove a thing.
Gilad_Hyperstar
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There's stuff like the Z Sword which Beerus could seal Zamasu in. This was how the Old Kai was sealedSo, whats stopping us from thinking this is some sort of god like seal..?
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No, it is up to you to use scans and prove an exception, that DB mind isnt in the brain, or related to the soul or anything, you'd have to prove its a completely seperate metaphysical aspect somewhere else and wasn't erased
Gilad_Hyperstar
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Poisoning the well aren't we? This isn't looking good for you
Nullflowerblush
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Narratively speaking, they hyped up the Hakai, they introduced the Hakai, and they continued to allude to the Hakai and Beerus destroying people throughout the saga. Why this would be a mysterious godly seal not yet seen or foreshadowed instead of the Hakai is beyond me.
EldemadeDityjon
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I haven't made any positive claim it's for DB fandom to back up their reason for mid godly regeneration for Zamasu not my burden. I just asked for proof. And dropped wiki explanation
Zencha9
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did you like fail biology class? genuinely asking
Gilad_Hyperstar
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Because Beerus stated he can't erase immortal beings such as Zamasu, needing him to use something else
EldemadeDityjon
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Crazy how he started attacking me then here you calling me poisoning something. That's great.
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because beerus can't kill immortals sssssss,
Nullflowerblush
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Now hear me out...
Gilad_Hyperstar
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You did made a positive claim since you claim that Zamasu's being was not completely erased and his mind remained. You need to prove it is different for it to work
Rez
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This one? Yes I did and the mafuba only failed because Goku is an idiot and forgot the seal. The only this argument is gonna work is if beerus is considered to be a less reliable source of information.
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