TenSura LN Major Misleading Revision - Part 2

[CelestialVortex01]

Alright I'm gonna tackle everything in here, and try to keep up with everything

1.They’re claiming Rimuru has High-Godly Regeneration because his Infinite Regeneration skill lets him keep regenerating as long as he has magicules, supposedly allowing him to recover even after attacks that erase physical, spiritual, and information-based parts of his being, like Melt-Slash. This includes erasing his core, which holds his skills, so the argument is that Rimuru can still regenerate even if key parts of his existence, including his information self, are erased.

Quick Downgrade Explanation:

Rimuru’s Infinite Regeneration relies on magicules and works from his core. If he needs magicules and his core stores his skills, then the core itself isn’t actually erased otherwise, the skill couldn’t keep running. High-Godly requires total erasure, meaning nothing should be left at all. Plus, Melt-Slash isn’t an ultimate erasure move; it can’t fully erase beings like Veldora because of his sheer size. So, if the core and magicules are still there, then this doesn’t hit High-Godly standards.

Full Argument Summary:

Core and Magicules: Infinite Regeneration depends on the core being intact and fueled by magicules. If his core was erased, the skill wouldn’t work since it stores his abilities. This reliance on magicules shows the erasure isn’t absolute, which rules out High-Godly.

Current Standards: High-Godly Regeneration requires total erasure. So, saying Rimuru has High-Godly because he regenerates from Melt-Slash misses the point if his core remains active. The core needs to be erased entirely for High-Godly to apply.

Limits of Melt-Slash: Melt-Slash doesn’t have the power to erase massive beings like Veldora completely. So, it’s more logical that Rimuru’s regeneration outlasted Melt-Slash rather than him regenerating from true erasure.

The skill “Gluttony” getting erased and restored doesn’t count because it’s just restoring a skill, not Rimuru himself from total erasure. There was even a backup, so it’s not like it was recreated from nothing.


As for what the regen should be changed to, for me low godly or mid godly should be fine

 

[Eikichi_Sensei]

This is new translation though you just posted
But if skills are not at the core do you believe they are at soul? Like other scan states or something else. Either way my point is skills is run by Magicules and Rimuru statement is heavily dependent on him Regenerating his physical body to the point melt slash doesn't reach his core.

Are you really playing? This has nothing to do with the core of the heart.

 

[Eikichi_Sensei]

Alright I'm gonna tackle everything in here, and try to keep up with everything

1.They’re claiming Rimuru has High-Godly Regeneration because his Infinite Regeneration skill lets him keep regenerating as long as he has magicules, supposedly allowing him to recover even after attacks that erase physical, spiritual, and information-based parts of his being, like Melt-Slash. This includes erasing his core, which holds his skills, so the argument is that Rimuru can still regenerate even if key parts of his existence, including his information self, are erased.

Quick Downgrade Explanation:

Rimuru’s Infinite Regeneration relies on magicules and works from his core. If he needs magicules and his core stores his skills, then the core itself isn’t actually erased otherwise, the skill couldn’t keep running. High-Godly requires total erasure, meaning nothing should be left at all. Plus, Melt-Slash isn’t an ultimate erasure move; it can’t fully erase beings like Veldora because of his sheer size. So, if the core and magicules are still there, then this doesn’t hit High-Godly standards.

Full Argument Summary:

Core and Magicules: Infinite Regeneration depends on the core being intact and fueled by magicules. If his core was erased, the skill wouldn’t work since it stores his abilities. This reliance on magicules shows the erasure isn’t absolute, which rules out High-Godly.

Current Standards: High-Godly Regeneration requires total erasure. So, saying Rimuru has High-Godly because he regenerates from Melt-Slash misses the point if his core remains active. The core needs to be erased entirely for High-Godly to apply.

Limits of Melt-Slash: Melt-Slash doesn’t have the power to erase massive beings like Veldora completely. So, it’s more logical that Rimuru’s regeneration outlasted Melt-Slash rather than him regenerating from true erasure.

The skill “Gluttony” getting erased and restored doesn’t count because it’s just restoring a skill, not Rimuru himself from total erasure. There was even a backup, so it’s not like it was recreated from nothing.


As for what the regen should be changed to, for me low godly or mid godly should be fine

I'm tired of this, common skills, extras, etc. are not in the core.

The only ones that have a declaration of this are the Unique and Ultimate Skills, and they are not all Unique Skills.

Magicules exist all over the world not just in the user, that does not need to be argued.

 

[Astral_Trinity439]

Infinite Regeneration requires Magicules to regenerate the user’s body,

Yes

Therefore, Raphael’s statement should be interpreted as Rimuru outlasting Meltslash due to sheer regeneration. Additionally, this is supported by the fact that Meltslash has limitations, such as not being able to erase beings like Veldora due to sheer size.

And that "size" is what makes this unrelated to the argument.
Because a true dragon's heart core can be anywhere in the body, so pin-pointing and destroying it with something like disintegration, that has a small range, is near impossible because of how big a true dragon's form is

The problem was the core’s location. It was inside his body, close enough that I could communicate with it via Telepathy, but pinpointing its exact coordinates was actually pretty tricky. Should I accidentally destroy it in the process, all would be lost—this mission would be a failure, and Veldora would go through the reincarnation process. Normally, you’d never have to worry about this—the core of the creature is the most heavily protected part of it. But in Veldora’s case, his core was detached from his main body, leaving it fairly defenseless. A careless strike in the wrong place could wind up landing a direct hit, which would be beyond unfortunate. It’d free him from Ludora’s control, I’m sure, but it’d also wipe out Veldora’s current personality, and it wouldn’t restore our soul corridor, either. That had to be avoided at all costs. ~ Volume 15

So, yeah, I think some attacking is safe enough, but you never know what’ll happen if you hit someone in the wrong place. That was doubly true now that Veldora didn’t have control over his own body. There was just no telling what he would do. Thus, until I knew the location of Veldora’s core, it was safest not to launch any attacks. That meant I had just one way forward. I needed to put my nose to the grindstone, use Predation to eat away at him bit by bit, and hope I find the core along the way. It’d be a race against time, but I had no other option.

There is also the fact that Magicules are involved. Hence, it is not a complete erasure, which disqualifies it from High-Godly Regeneration.

Veldora stated that he could gather magicules from the surrounding and regenerate his core in his consciousness[ego] form alone

Yeah, so…you wanna try escaping, maybe? If I had the right receptacle, I think that’d help our chances a fair amount… Do you know what I’d need, though?…Indeed, even if I escaped in spiritual form only, it would be quite difficult to regather magic and form my core once more. Your creating a small tear in the prison helped my chances immensely, no doubt. As for that receptacle—the new core, if you will—if you can bring one to me, all I’d have to do is traverse myself over to it. Transmigration, I suppose… ~ Volume 1, Chapter 1

As far as I could piece together in the ensuing conversation, the basic idea went like this:
Using his consciousness alone, he could gather magicules toward him to form a physical body. Said body was currently being held in this prison, but that prison also prevented his will from collecting the magic he needed. Could he escape in consciousness form alone? No, because he needed some kind of receptacle. ~ Volume 1, Chapter 1

and since it is a skill stored in the core (unless stated otherwise), this should rule out the possibility of the core being destroyed

and if the Core stores the skills, then Infinite Regeneration skill being active clearly proves the Core isn’t destroyed.

Will try to find anything about this part in the novel tomorrow. But for now, just know that the rest of the arguments won't work, especially the magicule one and Veldora's size one.

There is a scan for physical body endlessly Regenerating but I also see the scan for Shion skill having statement for spiritual stuff. But IIRC DT states all mind, soul and body needs to be erased and Regenerated to get MGR. So I'm still not sure which level this qualifies. How TF is this spite because I said it might be low or mid godly?

Regarding this specifically; those with Perfect Memory [skill] are able to think with their Heart Core alone; the magicules can be gathered from the surroundings, so its perfectly probable that they can regenerate even if their soul is destroyed since the core remains intact; So MGR is not a problem.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Regenerating something when Melt Slash destroys everything?

It doesn't destroy everything (Veldora is an example)
You are not getting my point. It has some limitations

Seriously that's your argument, when Rapahel mentions that she can regenerate her physical body? (When she can obviously regenerate more things)

She can obviously Regenerate more than physical body but I already addressed. Even if she can Regeneration some information type 2 stuff it doesn't mean she can Regenerate from complete Erasure of Rimuru. Which you need to prove with scans because I already gave my interpretation on why it's not the case.

It's like spiritual life forms, with Low Goddly regeneration could do the same, then why don't they do it?

Idk

Again magicules are everywhere in the world, monsters have their existence based on it, it's not just the user.

You still not addressed the scans I posted in the OP. So where do you claim Infinite Regeneration gets Magicules to Regenerate Rimuru. First of all can you explain where do you claim this infinite Regeneration skill exists?

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

And that "size" is what makes this unrelated to the argument.
Because a true dragon's heart core can be anywhere in the body, so pin-pointing and destroying it with something like disintegration, that has a small range, is near impossible because of how big a true dragon's form is

I'm not arguing it based on size. My argument is limitation. Size is one of the things sure.

Veldora stated that he could gather magicules from the surrounding and regenerate his core in his consciousness[ego] form alone

He is doing manually?
Also Rimuru at this point is not a True dragon though

Will try to find anything about this part in the novel tomorrow. But for now, just know that the rest of the arguments won't work, especially the magicule one and Veldora's size one.

They do work.

Regarding this specifically; those with Perfect Memory [skill] are able to think with their Heart Core alone; the magicules can be gathered from the surroundings, so its perfectly probable that they can regenerate even if their soul is destroyed since the core remains intact; So MGR is not a problem.

Then I agree with MGR I don't really have a problem with this

 

[CelestialVortex01]

I'm tired of this, common skills, extras, etc. are not in the core.

The only ones that have a declaration of this are the Unique and Ultimate Skills, and they are not all Unique Skills.

Magicules exist all over the world not just in the user, that does not need to be argued.

First off, even if common skills and extras aren’t stored in the core, it’s still confirmed that Unique and Ultimate Skills are. Infinite Regeneration is an intrin? rensic (how do you even spell that ) skill that Rimuru depends on for his regen, so it’s still very likely that it’s in the core if it’s a Unique or Ultimate Skill (or tied to one).

As for the argument about magicules being all over the world that’s true in general, but it misses the point. Rimuru’s Infinite Regeneration requires a supply of magicules within himself to function. If the core is erased, that would disrupt his internal source of magicules, meaning his regen couldn’t activate regardless of external magicules. High-Godly needs the character to come back from total erasure, including any reliance on internal energy or skills stored in the core, so even if there are magicules in the world, Rimuru’s core has to stay intact for his regeneration to work, which doesn't support High-Godly regen.

 

[Eikichi_Sensei]

It doesn't destroy everything (Veldora is an example)
You are not getting my point. It has some limitations

That's its size for being a small spell , that's the only limitation you give.

She can obviously Regenerate more than physical body but I already addressed. Even if she can Regeneration some information type 2 stuff it doesn't mean she can Regenerate from complete Erasure of Rimuru. Which you need to prove with scans because I already gave my interpretation on why it's not the case.

Literally Disintegration erases everything, so...

You still not addressed the scans I posted in the OP. So where do you claim Infinite Regeneration gets Magicules to Regenerate Rimuru. First of all can you explain where do you claim this infinite Regeneration skill exists?

It says "If there are magicules left"

The World and the existence of monsters are based on it.

Where does it say that you need yours to make it work? Anywhere but the core unless you want all Intrinsic Skills to be in the core, when the only statement is that they are only Unique and Ultimate Skills.

 

[Eikichi_Sensei]

What you say:

"Intrinsic ability/Extra Infinite Regeneration are in the core"

The only skills that have a declaration of being in the core are Ultimate and Unique Skills, so stop repeating that.

"It needs magicules from the user"

Dude no, monsters can use the magicules of the world, not just theirs, not even the magicules are in the core, there is only the ego and the information particles, not the magicules.

 

[Astral_Trinity439]

I'm not arguing it based on size. My argument is limitation. Size is one of the things sure.

Guessing it's the following, so answering those:

There is also the fact that Melt Slash disintegration has limits, like not being able to completely erase beings like Veldora due to sheer size.

Even Disintegration, the most powerful of holy magic, could only do a little bit of damage against Veldora's gigantic frame. The durability of these True Dragons was no joke—it's what made them True Dragons. (Volume 15, Chapter 2)

This part is about size, which I already clarified prior.

This obviously implies that Rimuru’s Regeneration skill could have just outlasted Melt Slash, which likely didn’t continue for a long period. It’s more rational to interpret this as Rimuru regenerating to the point where Melt Slash’s effect just couldn’t keep up. Without any specific scans to prove otherwise, there’s no reason to believe that Melt Slash would have completely erased Rimuru, especially if we can clearly see that magicules are required for regeneration. Magicules act as fuel, and if the Core stores the skills, then Infinite Regeneration skill being active clearly proves the Core isn’t destroyed.

While its true that Rimuru wasn't completely erased, Beelzebuth, which is stored in the core, was still destroyed. I'm not saying this means the core is completely destroyed, no, it might have instead been partially destroyed, since otherwise there's no way to explain why the Ultimate skill was destroyed in the first place.

On the same note, I wonder if partial destruction of fundamental aspects grant limited HGR?

There may be arguments that Melt Slash is a one-hit kill, but as I’ve pointed out, being an existence erasure doesn’t rule out the possibility that Rimuru’s Infinite Regeneration skill could outlast its effect by regenerating his physical body so much that Melt Slash eventually loses effect. This is the most logical interpretation, thanks to the explicit mention of magicules as a required fuel for that skill, and since skills are stored in the Core, obviously the character’s fundamentals aren’t getting erased.

Since this is related to whether the core was completely destroyed or not, which I'm unsure of myself, I'll leave this until I can find any proof countering it.

He is doing manually?
Also Rimuru at this point is not a True dragon though

It's overtime, same as what their profiles say, although the profiles treat it as resurrection

But the argument here is that those that can think via a more fundamental aspect of their being [such as the ego or the core] do not need to use their own magicules, and can simply exert force on the magicules in the surroundings to reform their body.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

That's its size for being a small spell , that's the only limitation you give.

I said limitations size is one of them.

Literally Disintegration erases everything, so...

When did I said it didn't?
I said it has limitations

It says "If there are magicules left"

The World and the existence of monsters are based on it.

So if you put Rimuru in a place where he doesn't have Magicules he can't Regenerate?

Are you claiming he is gonna be using his environment to regenerate?

What you say:

"Intrinsic ability/Extra Infinite Regeneration are in the core"

The only skills that have a declaration of being in the core are Ultimate and Unique Skills, so stop repeating that.

"It needs magicules from the user"

Dude no, monsters can use the magicules of the world, not just theirs, not even the magicules are in the core, there is only the ego and the information particles, not the magicules.

I didn't say Magicules are in core
Check my OP. I said Magicules are needed as energy fuel.

Where does it say that you need yours to make it work? Anywhere but the core unless you want all Intrinsic Skills to be in the core, when the only statement is that they are only Unique and Ultimate Skills.

I don't follow your arguments at this point. I think you are not getting what's being argued in the OP.

@Astral_Trinity439 gets it clearly. You can discuss it with him. If you don't understand my words.

 

[Eikichi_Sensei]

That is the only limitation and you make it sound like they have too many...

When will the magicules run out when the Aura can supply that all over the world?

Yes, magicules that are all over the world and that the Aura can also produce in the surroundings, the supply will never run out.

I said limitations size is one of them.

When did I said it didn't?
I said it has limitations


So if you put Rimuru in a place where he doesn't have Magicules he can't Regenerate?

Are you claiming he is gonna be using his environment to regenerate?

I didn't say Magicules are in core
Check my OP. I said Magicules are needed as energy fuel.

I don't follow your arguments at this point. I think you are not getting what's being argued in the OP.

@Astral_Trinity439 gets it clearly. You can discuss it with him. If you don't understand my words.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Guessing it's the following, so answering those:

This part is about size, which I already clarified prior.

I also mentioned it in the OP as its size.

What I was trying to say is that Rimuru’s infinite regeneration might be fast enough to keep regenerating his body to the point where his core wouldn’t be destroyed by Melt Slash, similar to how Veldora’s size makes it impossible for Melt Slash to completely erase him, only dealing some damage.

While its true that Rimuru wasn't completely erased, Beelzebuth, which is stored in the core, was still destroyed. I'm not saying this means the core is completely destroyed, no, it might have instead been partially destroyed, since otherwise there's no way to explain why the Ultimate skill was destroyed in the first place.

On the same note, I wonder if partial destruction of fundamental aspects grant limited HGR?

I think it’s more like high level MGR because it’s not complete erasure.

I linked the thread where the standards were changed under Glassman and a few other staff members.

It was decided that the complete erasure of one’s existence is required to grant Godly Regeneration.

Since this is related to whether the core was completely destroyed or not, which I'm unsure of myself, I'll leave this until I can find any proof countering it.

Sure no problem.

It's overtime, same as what their profiles say, although the profiles treat it as resurrection

But the argument here is that those that can think via a more fundamental aspect of their being [such as the ego or the core] do not need to use their own magicules, and can simply exert force on the magicules in the surroundings to reform their body.

Ok

 

[Astral_Trinity439]

I also mentioned it in the OP as its size.

What I was trying to say is that Rimuru’s infinite regeneration might be fast enough to keep regenerating his body to the point where his core wouldn’t be destroyed by Melt Slash, similar to how Veldora’s size makes it impossible for Melt Slash to completely erase him, only dealing some damage.

Veldora's size problem was because disintegration couldn't pin-point the core; but as seen in the anime, the spell clearly covers the whole of Rimuru's body.
Also, I think partial destruction is core is more probable here, since Beelzebuth was destroyed, but Infinite regen wasn't.

Another thing to point out is that to even reach the core[and resultantly destroy the skills], you first need to destroy the layers that cover the core/info particles, that would be the astral body, spiritual body, and the soul

Incidentally, it was necessary to interfere with the spirit in order to damage the mind. As represented by “Disintegration,” the “information particles” could not be reached without destroying the spirit. Now that Arios had the ‘Punishment King Sandalphon,’ he should be able to destroy the core if he was aware of it. ~ Volume 19

I think it’s more like high level MGR because it’s not complete erasure.

I linked the thread where the standards were changed under Glassman and a few other staff members.

It was decided that the complete erasure of one’s existence is required to grant Godly Regeneration.

Alright. I'm fine with MGR for now in that case.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Veldora's size problem was because disintegration couldn't pin-point the core; but as seen in the anime, the spell clearly covers the whole of Rimuru's body.
Also, I think partial destruction is core is more probable here, since Beelzebuth was destroyed, but Infinite regen wasn't.

Another thing to point out is that to even reach the core[and resultantly destroy the skills], you first need to destroy the layers that cover the core/info particles, that would be the astral body, spiritual body, and the soul

I see. Thanks for clarifying.

Alright. I'm fine with MGR for now in that case.

Glad we reached a common ground.

 

[CodeCCLL]

and since it is a skill stored in the core

The Core contains skills,

The phrase "at the core" obviously does not refer to the actual nucleic heart, but is simply used as another way of saying "essentially/actually".

Additionally, this is supported by the fact that Meltslash has limitations, such as not being able to erase beings like Veldora due to sheer size. There is also the fact that Melt Slash disintegration has limits, like not being able to completely erase beings like Veldora due to sheer size.

Basic Disintegration was enough for Hinata to deal with a mindless monster like Gluttony, but someone like Rimuru who could easily simulate the future with pure calculations could easily avoid Disintegration. So Hinata combined Disintegration with her sword and used Melt Slash at the cost of minimizing the AOE of the attack.

The reason why basic Disintegration cannot deal serious damage to True Dragons is their large size; to destroy large-sized beings such as Charybdis and True Dragons, Sanctuary Disintegration is used, which has a better AOE than basic Disintegration.

This obviously implies that Rimuru’s Regeneration skill could have just outlasted Melt Slash, which likely didn’t continue for a long period. It’s more rational to interpret this as Rimuru regenerating to the point where Melt Slash’s effect just couldn’t keep up.

Demon Lord Rimuru's base durability is incomparably inferior to that of a True Dragon, without Ultimate Skill Uriel which can even tank Trinity Disintegration. A punch from Milim Nava, in base form and pretending to be controlled by Clayman, could kill Demon Lord Rimuru in one shot, while Veldora, a True Dragon, was able to tank it even off-guard. So to talk about durability in any way here is not realistic.

The part I would agree with would be that Rimuru can avoid Melt Slash to some extent and regenerate since it is not completely destroyed, or that Melt Slash's AOE is not enough to completely destroy Rimuru and Rimuru can regenerate instantly with infinite regeneration.

Although, yes the rest of it makes sense so I agree it should be removed.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

The phrase "at the core" obviously does not refer to the actual nucleic heart, but is simply used as another way of saying "essentially/actually".

Thanks for clarifying the context. Since it's listed in the common abilities pages of Tensura, I might have gotten it wrong.

Basic Disintegration was enough for Hinata to deal with a mindless monster like Gluttony, but someone like Rimuru who could easily simulate the future with pure calculations could easily avoid Disintegration. So Hinata combined Disintegration with her sword and used Melt Slash at the cost of minimizing the AOE of the attack.

The reason why basic Disintegration cannot deal serious damage to True Dragons is their large size; to destroy large-sized beings such as Charybdis and True Dragons, Sanctuary Disintegration is used, which has a better AOE than basic Disintegration.

Demon Lord Rimuru's base durability is incomparably inferior to that of a True Dragon, without Ultimate Skill Uriel which can even tank Trinity Disintegration. A punch from Milim Nava, in base form and pretending to be controlled by Clayman, could kill Demon Lord Rimuru in one shot, while Veldora, a True Dragon, was able to tank it even off-guard. So to talk about durability in any way here is not realistic.

I understand this part. Just to be clear, I'm not talking about Rimuru's durability. Technically, what you mentioned below is correct; I was talking about his regeneration, though I might not have explained it well.

The part I would agree with would be that Rimuru can avoid Melt Slash to some extent and regenerate since it is not completely destroyed, or that Melt Slash's AOE is not enough to completely destroy Rimuru and Rimuru can regenerate instantly with infinite regeneration.

Although, yes the rest of it makes sense so I agree it should be removed.

Great thanks

 

[Planck69]

Reading the OP and some of the arguments here, yeah, this should be downgraded unless he explicitly comes back from full erasure at some point, not just via extrapolation. Mid-Godly seems fine to me.

 

[CodeCCLL]

Just to be clear, I'm not talking about Rimuru's durability

What do you mean by "outlasted"?

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

What do you mean by "outlasted"?

Let's say Melt Slash was erasing him from one end, but his regeneration was fast enough to keeping up on the other end.

This is just an example not literal
It’s a bit like how Baraggan and Ikomikidomoe fight in Bleach, where Ikomikidomoe keeps regenerating while Baraggan's abilities affect him from the other end.

 

[CodeCCLL]

Let's say Melt Slash was erasing him from one end, but his regeneration was fast enough to keeping up on the other end.

I understand now.

Instantly regenerated

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

I understand now.

Scan is not working
But yeah instant Regeneration.

 

[Eseseso]

Mid Godly Regen seems ok

 

[Godsatoshi23]

Agree FRA

 

[Robo432343]

@Dark_Soul20189 dude you can't just say "Hard disagree" and stay quiet for the rest of the thread

 

[Verlice_tempest]

Umm.. possibly partial core was destroyed

For High Godly or any other form of Godly Regeneration, there needs to be proof of the complete erasure of fundamental aspects. For Low Godly, it requires erasure of the body; for Mid Godly, it requires erasure of mind, soul, and body.

scans regarding this skill state that it is etched onto certain parts of the user — either the core or the soul.

HGR is about regeneration from, physical, non corporeal and a meta physical aspect of being right
So MGR shouldn't be classified for infinite regeneration as it can generate a partial core
Here limited HGR is better I guess

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Ya, that's possible, possibly partial core was destroyed and then infinite regen outlasted it

Umm.. possibly partial core was destroyed

HGR is about regeneration from, physical, non corporeal and a meta physical aspect of being right
So MGR shouldn't be classified for infinite regeneration as it can generate a partial core
Here limited HGR is better I guess

You need complete Erasure of those to get HGR. There is no limited here. It's either MGR or HGR.
Read the staff input above. Also I already tagged the thread in my OP where Staffs making a rule for that.

 

[PHANtomFELdway]

There is a canon side story from the game about alternate timeline rimuru getting erased completely in reference to when he got hit by desintigration in season 2.


6:09-7:02

Also this part


A Soul is Crystallized Energy defining one's Collective Consciousness, Thoughts, Ideas, Virtual Memory, covered Spiritual and Astral Body as well as their Skills on some occasions, whereas a Core defines theirFundamental Information (Type 2) Self in Reality, their Skills (Powers), that even Spiritual Lifeforms cannot regenerate from; An Ego is a set of Wavelengths defining a person's being, that they can take action with even if their Core has no energy, existing deeper than anything else, beyond their Soul, Information Self)

They can simply use thier ego to gather magicules around the world to make a new core. With thier core defining thier fundamental information. So soul,mind,and concept are still destroyed.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

There is a canon side story from the game about alternate timeline rimuru getting erased completely in reference to when he got hit by desintigration in season 2.


6:09-7:02

Also this part


A Soul is Crystallized Energy defining one's Collective Consciousness, Thoughts, Ideas, Virtual Memory, covered Spiritual and Astral Body as well as their Skills on some occasions, whereas a Core defines theirFundamental Information (Type 2) Self in Reality, their Skills (Powers), that even Spiritual Lifeforms cannot regenerate from; An Ego is a set of Wavelengths defining a person's being, that they can take action with even if their Core has no energy, existing deeper than anything else, beyond their Soul, Information Self)

They can simply use thier ego to gather magicules around the world to make a new core. With thier core defining thier fundamental information. So soul,mind,and concept are still destroyed.

So technically needs 3 years for him to get revived back?

 

[CodeCCLL]

Isekai Memories is only canon to itself, not canon to anything else.

They can simply use thier ego to gather magicules around the world to make a new core.

There is no proof of this.

 

[PHANtomFELdway]

So technically needs 3 years for him to get revived back?

That is a weaker skill. Infinite regen is stated to be able to do it instantly.

Isekai Memories is only canon to itself, not canon to anything else.

This is a canon story made by fuse in reference to season 2 of the anime.

There is no proof of this.

Yes there is. Tho it should be limited to people who have shown to be able to think deeper than thier core and not just a property of the ability

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

That is a weaker skill. Infinite regen is stated to be able to do it instantly.

If he used a different skill here, then my argument doesn’t change much. Different skills have different functions. If Rimuru stays still, he would obviously get erased; I never denied that fact. However, my OP argues that he could use infinite regeneration to counter Melt Slash, and Code also provided different possible interpretations of how it might play out. Therefore, in the current arguments, I don’t see your game video countering the arguments presented. So, I still maintain that infinite regeneration lacks a proper statement or feats for regenerating from complete erasure.

 

[PHANtomFELdway]

If he used a different skill here, then my argument doesn’t change much. Different skills have different functions. If Rimuru stays still, he would obviously get erased; I never denied that fact. However, my OP argues that he could use infinite regeneration to counter Melt Slash, and Code also provided different possible interpretations of how it might play out. Therefore, in the current arguments, I don’t see your game video countering the arguments presented. So, I still maintain that infinite regeneration lacks a proper statement or feats for regenerating from complete erasure.

It is a weaker skill.. infinite regen literally upgraded from that skill. So if that skill can already do it,then why wouldn’t infinite regen which is the same ability but enhanced not be able to do it? It would still be high godly regen regardless of if you say it isn’t combat applicable

 

[CodeCCLL]

This is a canon story made by fuse in reference to season 2 of the anime.

Just another way of saying "I know nothing about canon standards".

 

[PHANtomFELdway]

Just another way of saying "I know nothing about canon standards".

Ironic that you say this.

 

[CodeCCLL]

Ironic that you say this.

If you think this is canon make a crt to get it accepted as canon and watch it get rejected, I really can't bother with you.

 

[Hasty12345]

I agree with the downgrade, mid-godly looks ok to me.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

It is a weaker skill.. infinite regen literally upgraded from that skill. So if that skill can already do it,then why wouldn’t infinite regen which is the same ability but enhanced not be able to do it? It would still be high godly regen regardless of if you say it isn’t combat applicable

It would be resurrection not regeneration. Also I agree with Code. It's better to make a thread for it to get it accepted as canon first. Then we can discuss regarding how that spell functions compared to infinite regeneration. For now I'll stick to my OP.

 

[PHANtomFELdway]

It would be resurrection not regeneration. Also I agree with Code. It's better to make a thread for it to get it accepted as canon first. Then we can discuss regarding how that spell functions compared to infinite regeneration. For now I'll stick to my OP.

Debatable. It says he regenerated,but it does also say it is resurrection. I might make a thread. But I noticed that it is kinda useless since this downgrade doesn’t even affect much besides having 1 less ability for hgr.

 

[Lesser_Goddess_Alexia]

I think this is the Original Thread?

I don't really care about Tensura anymore, but maybe you should check out the previous Thread.

Also, bringing Veldora's Dragon Form into this topic is wrong and hilarious. If you watched the Tensura Season 2, precisely when Hinata casting Disintegration, you should know that the range of Disintegration is not as big as Veldora's body size. Even Trinity Disintegration wasn't as big as Veldora's body size