Hellscream
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You must be smoking that good good
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Full Power Luffy vs Primebeard (8-7-1)
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DaMonkeMan
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How much!?
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DaMonkeMan
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Pennsylvania.
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I think my dealer can sling it that far.
DaMonkeMan
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Angry Birds dealer.
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I believe luffy would definitively beat whitebeard but I can't scale one piece and have been consistently wrong regarding my takes so I can't argue it. I'll just vote for luffy for the arguments presented.
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I'm still of the belief that Prime Whitebeard would beat current G5 Luffy, or at least the Luffy that fought Kaido. I believe that by the time Luffy fights Blackbeard, he'll have surpassed the top dogs like Primebeard, but if you want my opinion, he isn't there yet. I still think Luffy took advantage of Kaido having been worn out from his repeated battles to win his fight. But even with all the advantages that G5 provides, I still believe that Whitebeard's Haki, Basento, and devil fruit powers would give him a slight edge in this battle. So I vote Primebeard.
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Luffy: 8 (Eseseso, KingTempest, TheMonkeMan, Darkvie123, TauanVictor, Da3ggman, FluffyCreatureZ, Maitreya)
Whitebeard: 5 (Godernet, DaReaperMan, That_moron, CiscoTheSoto, Hellscream)
I have counted the votes of those who clearly stated they are voting, if your name is not here yet, you should make your vote.
Edit: Adding more votes.
Whitebeard: 5 (Godernet, DaReaperMan, That_moron, CiscoTheSoto, Hellscream)
I have counted the votes of those who clearly stated they are voting, if your name is not here yet, you should make your vote.
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Hellscream
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Where's my vote?
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I also voted in favor of Luffy.
Hellscream
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No lol, luffy is not beating primebeard at all atleast not as of now
Anyone that voted for luffy here is wanking him out of proportion
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Nah he is a true Yonko and has mastered all Haki (unless it's revealed that there is an even stronger level of Haki), he should be on his level if not at least close, and Luffy have far better hax and versatility.
They are both scaling from the same feat as well, so it's not like we have a definite proof of this power difference, and the Bajrang Gun is probably the strongest attack from a humanoid character that has appeared in the series.
Hellscream
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How is him being a true yonko relevant?
Except for that his hax is borderline useless and still nearly got beat to death by kaido who got hit with the combined attack of their entire alliance
We'll talk when Luffy can beat kaido in a 1vs1 as opposed to a 50vs1
And then we can talk about him beating a being even stronger than Kaido
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This + future sight is a hard thing to counter against + Rubber body and environment is hard counter to Whitebeard’s quakes.
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Rubber body gets Luffy hit with the full unrestrained weight of Whitebeard's quakes.
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I will put in question whether Kaido was truly weakened, when at one point in the fight Luffy stated that Kaido's Haki was getting even stronger.
Fighting those 50 characters before Luffy wasn't enough to hamper his fighting abilities, that speaks volumes about Kaido's unrivaled endurance.
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Rubber is very good at absorbing vibrations + Luffy changes the environment around him to being rubber as well which means that Whitebeard’s quakes get drastically reduced in potency because of that.
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yeah. Exactly. He's getting hit with ALL of the quake, not just whatever doesn't pass through him
DaMonkeMan
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BTW Kaidou was getting tired during the G5 part of the fight but being tired doesn't make you hit less hard or less durable.
Hellscream
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Except for that shockwaves were already proven to be extremely effective against luffy even without the use of haki, so yeah
Man's getting flattened
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Yeah, his hold on Onigashima was getting weaker, though Luffy didn't note a drop on power or mobility from Kaido.
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Brother nobody got flattened in the manga and I would argue than in the anime's case it was because Akainu is made of magma.
Current Luffy is far more resilience than this Akainu, especially in Gear 5th, where it is stated that he can take hits "any way he wants".
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1) why are you showing me an image of Whitebeard hitting Akainu and saying it’s “extremely effective against Luffy” when that isn’t Luffy being hit
2) why are you assuming Whitebeard isn’t using haki here when he’s literally touching a logia user. Someone who specifically needs haki to be touched.
3) Akainu got back up from this no issue and immediately took off a quarter of Whitebeard’s head.
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Sickbeard's haki was flowing like actual dogshit
That's more of a testament to Akainu being an extreme endurance monster rather then Whitebeard's shockwaves being weak
Hellscream
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What?
It's just a gif of what would happen to luffy it's not even an argument
Im talking about all shockwave based attacks that were proven to be effective against luffy, such as fishman karate, rokuogan etc.
Whitebeards quake fruit being LEAGUES above them.
Yeah, it's a severely weakened whitebeard that still 2 shot akainu what's your point?
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I wasn’t arguing Whitebeard’s shockwaves were ever weak though. Just that it’d be less effective against Luffy due to the natural properties rubber has on vibrations interacting with them.
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Luffy would be taking more damage becuase he is absorbing the quakes though, he's not getting hit with a little of it he's getting hit with ALL of it
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Not when the whole environment around him is absorbing the quakes before they reach him, reducing their potency.
Hellscream
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lol I like how people are completely ignoring the fact that shockwave based attacks were proven to be extremely effective in multiple fights
DaMonkeMan
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On people with way less hax and stats than Luffy, yeah.
Hellscream
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What are you saying man...
They were literally used and shown to be effective on him
DaMonkeMan
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When?
Hellscream
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It wasn't strong enough to take down Luffy and Jinbe stated that it would work on anyone with water in their body, Luffy is no exception.
So it's not even like he was particularly weak to it, he just take the same amount of damage as anyone else, unless I'm missing something.
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Maybe you should read the manga? Idk what series u mean bc the anime has fillers
DaMonkeMan
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Rokougan is a sharp shockwave on his organs no shit it'd hurt, and even still he got up and beat Lucci so hard he was on the brisk of dying if not for his fellow agents.
