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I mean Sickbeard was borderline unbothered by having his insides turned into what we call "Magma souffle" and having half his head turned to atmosphere lol
 
But it means it's not a showcase of endurance at all, just stamina.
true, I was mainly just arguing your point. my fault if I made it seem like I was calling WB and Roger just clashing an endurance feat. but we've seen Old Whitebeard survive far worse than Luffy ever has and off of feats he has more stamina.
 
true, I was mainly just arguing your point. my fault if I made it seem like I was calling WB and Roger just clashing an endurance feat. but we've seen Old Whitebeard survive far worse than Luffy ever has and off of feats he has more stamina.
Can he survive a giant fist(s?) turning him into a pancake?
 
Can he survive a giant fist(s?) turning him into a pancake?
why would he just sit there and eat Bajrang Gun? He's not going to face-check an attack like Kaido. If anything he would try matching it with his own quake powers + Haki or try redirecting it. Which is something he could do depending on how much stronger you think he is than Kaido.
 
why would he just sit there and eat Bajrang Gun? He's not going to face-check an attack like Kaido. If anything he would try matching it with his own quake powers + Haki or try redirecting it. Which is something he could do depending on how much stronger you think he is than Kaido.
I don't imagine he's stronger than Kaidou, especially not by a big enough margin.
Plus Luffy has Empowerment.
 
I don't imagine he's stronger than Kaidou, especially not by a big enough margin.
Plus Luffy has Empowerment.
Except for that he is stronger than kaido the margin is unknown, but like i said

Luffy barely beat kaido who fought their unified alliance, and primebeard is even stronger than him.

Like what makes you guys think he can beat whitebeard solo who's above kaido
When he couldn't even defeat kaido solo?

Luffy is nowhere near whitebeard in terms of endurance idk what you're smoking but he nearly dropped just from having a hole in his stomach, while whitebeard had his organs liquified and had half of his head missing along with 200 stab wounds and all the other shit.
 
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Except for that he is stronger than kaido the margin is unknown, but like i said

Luffy barely beat kaido who fought their unified alliance, and primebeard is even stronger than him.

Like what makes you guys think he can beat whitebeard solo who's above kaido
When he couldn't even defeat kaido solo?

Luffy is nowhere near whitebeard in terms of endurance idk what you're smoking but he nearly dropped just from having a hole in his stomach, while whitebeard had his organs liquified and had half of his head missing along with 200 stab wounds and all the other shit.
Why people act like a New Gen or Emperor who have performed better feats than Roger Prime Garp or Prime WB cannot. Beat them? Bc they are the "Legend Trio"?
 
What's funny is Xebec is implied to be slightly above Roger and even Primebeard so you clearly can be over them, it's not impossible.
 
Both of them were in their 30's there, before roger even became king of the pirates and before whitebeard even got his status as being roger's equal
 
1: Pirate King isn't a power leveling title, he's right, it just means you got all the poneglyphs and what not and found Laugh Tale.
2: iirc one of the "Road To Laugh Tale" books mention Xebec as Roger's greatest adversary and it'd make no sense for this to not apply throughout his entire life.
 
1: Pirate King isn't a power leveling title, he's right, it just means you got all the poneglyphs and what not and found Laugh Tale.
2: iirc one of the "Road To Laugh Tale" books mention Xebec as Roger's greatest adversary and it'd make no sense for this to not apply throughout his entire life.
Yes it is a title of power lol
Every character in the series is going for them, being able to gather them all means you're the strongest it's literally the goal of the series
Since when is greatest adversary = being stronger?
 
Roger never defeated Big Mom.
Dude just avoided her and took her poneglyph.
It's clearly not related to being able to beat the Yonko, Warlords, Admirals etc.
 
Mans is ignoring that Roger had his crew + Garp there, not to mention Kaidou and BM were still thriving afterwards.
 
How's that an argument at all?....
What point are you even trying to make?
Their crew was defeated Kaido and BM were part of it
 
Idk if you know this but, Roger outright avoided BM when he took her poneglyph.
Dude didn't even bother fighting her at that point.
So yeah, you don't need to be the strongest in the world to be the Pirate King, nor do you need to fight everything that moves.
 
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except for that he already beat her?
Yeah you don't need to be the strongest, except for that he beat all the strongest characters of his period
The title is just for show tbh

You're 100% correct
 
Because primebeard and garp were literally stated to be his equals?XD
And it's literally stated that whitebeard could've been pirate king if he wanted to
 
Ima be honest, Hellscream is off his rocker is he thinks that Roger is significantly above a Yonko. He beat younger, weaker, and far less experienced BM and Kaido with the help of his crew and ******* Garp, so it makes since why he would want to avoid fighting her, since she's gotten a lot stronger since he beat her. Also, Luffy FRA
 
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