Four Knights of the Apocalypse/Nanatsu no Taizai Main Discussion Thread

[speedster352]

I used the Timeframe from the anime

The Highballed version is the mountain level version

That's fine then

 

[speedster352]

I used the Timeframe from the anime

The Highballed version is the mountain level version

What if it was done in a few seconds like 3-5?

 

[Majinere566]

What if it was done in a few seconds like 3-5?

Much higher but that's not the case

 

[speedster352]

Much higher but that's not the case

Hypothetically what would it yield?

 

[Majinere566]

Hypothetically what would it yield?

I don't have the exact number for the Mass but definitely Island level

 

[speedster352]

I don't have the exact number for the Mass but definitely Island level

Okay but I still don't get how a high density storm that dwarfs mountain ranges and shreds them is only mountain level

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

FYI

• It takes around Small City level to City level amount of energy to destroy a small mountain, depending on how it is destroyed.

• It takes around Large Mountain level to Island level to destroy a large mountain, depending on how it is destroyed.

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

Okay but I still don't get how a high density storm that dwarfs mountain ranges and shreds them is only mountain level

Cause tornados fodder energy wise

 

[speedster352]

FYI

Cause tornados fodder energy wise

 

[Aether2734]

Need to ask, when meliodas got seal by dubs and imprisoned in walless space, and zeldris burn it, does it get spatial manipulation?

 

[speedster352]

Need to ask, when meliodas got seal by dubs and imprisoned in walless space, and zeldris burn it, does it get spatial manipulation?

That seems fine it fights with 2c estrossa breaking out of the domain of god with no portal

 

[Rabbit2002]

Need to ask, when meliodas got seal by dubs and imprisoned in walless space, and zeldris burn it, does it get spatial manipulation?

Which chapter ?

 

[speedster352]

Which chapter ?

Cursed by light movie

 

[Zezu1995]

he didnt burn it, he broke it which is fine since esta did the same to get out of saril/tarmiel dimension via raw power

 

[speedster352]

he didnt burn it, he broke it which is fine since esta did the same to get out of saril/tarmiel dimension via raw power

Limited spacial manipulation seems fine

 

[ByAsura]

Maybe if byashura agrees that more sins scale to prime demon we could use the AM multiplier of 3x then maybe they can reach high 6b

I've frequently addressed the 3x multiplier, and showed massive proof that it isn't real. I will never agree with it.

@DemonGodMitchAubin Since you're here, do you mind evaluating this new heat capacity end of the Red Demon calculation. It'd get the Sins to City level+ and Mountain level if accepted.

 

[Majinere566]

Do we have any amp for Beserk Meliodas?

 

[ByAsura]

No, unfortunately.

I'd like one, because then it'd scale to Galand.

 

[Majinere566]

Wouldn't it be stronger than Demon Mark?

 

[ByAsura]

It is, but that's it. We have nothing else (or nothing that I can find, at least).

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

I've frequently addressed the 3x multiplier, and showed massive proof that it isn't real. I will never agree with it.

@DemonGodMitchAubin Since you're here, do you mind evaluating this new heat capacity end of the Red Demon calculation. It'd get the Sins to City level+ and Mountain level if accepted.

I don’t see anything too wrong with it I guess, but not sure if that’s the best method, then again I don’t really know what methods best, I mean there’s a ton of methods on that blog

 

[ByAsura]

Thanks.

 

[speedster352]

Thanks.

Any updates?

 

[speedster352]

Limited spacial manipulation seems fine

It is, but that's it. We have nothing else (or nothing that I can find, at least).

What do you think?

 

[ByAsura]

Any updates?

No.

What do you think?

I don't know.

 

[speedster352]

No.

I don't know.

But it very looks like spacial manipulation and it fits with what estarossa did in the domain of god escaping with no portals so limited spacial manipulation looks fine.

 

[speedster352]

No.

I don't know.

Would power nullification via darkness be fine for high-ranking demons? Since Estarossa used it on escanors cruel sun and on tarmeil? Also AM Meliodas cacoon is also power nullification.

 

[Majinere566]

I actually think I might know where the 3× amp for Assualt mode comes from

 

[speedster352]

I actually think I might know where the 3× amp for Assualt mode comes from

What's your take on it?

 

[ByAsura]

It's from the Full Counter multipliers. Again, I've addressed it.

 

[speedster352]

It's from the Full Counter multipliers. Again, I've addressed it.

Have you read the new 4koa chapter?

 

[ByAsura]

Yes.

 

[speedster352]

Yes.

So what do you think about it?

 

[Majinere566]

It's from the Full Counter multipliers. Again, I've addressed it.

Nah I think it's from the Melascula Cocoon

A Demon Mark Meliodas couldn't destroy the cocoon but when goes assault mode he was able to destroy it via his transformation

 

[ByAsura]

No it isn't. I was there while this scaling was being implemented, and nobody brought it up for the rescaling threads.

Just logically, what you're saying doesn't even make sense because there's no multiplier to be found in that situation.

Edit: Proof.

 

[Majinere566]

I see

Assault Mode scales above Full Counter which is now a 3x multiplier so it's actually like this now.

458.83 Gigatons: Sariel, Tarmiel, Near-Noon Escanor, 2C and 3C Estarossa and 3C Mael

1.37649 Teratons: Near-Noon Escanor durability, Post-Revival Assault Mode Meliodas, True Form Cusack, True Form Chandler, Merlin w/ Infinity, Zeldris w/ God and Ominous Nebula and Ludoshel Possessing Margaret

2.75298 Teratons: Original Demon, True Body Ludoshel, Indra Deriere, Indra Monspeet

64.87 Teratons: Chimera Indra, Prime Elizabeth, Prime Demon Mark Meliodas, 2nd Demon Mark Zeldris w/ God and Ominous Nebula, The One Escanor, 4C and Near-Noon Sunshine Mael and 1st Form Demon King Zeldris

194.61 Teratons: 1st Form Demon King Zeldris durability, The One Mael, Prime Assault Mode Meliodas, Post-Purgatory Base Meliodas and 2nd Form Demon King Zeldris

389.22 Teratons: Post-Purgatory Demon Mark Meliodas, Post-Purgatory Ban, Full Wings King, Wild and Demon King Meliodas

583.83 Teratons: 50% Demon King, 50% Supreme Deity, Wild w/ Full Throttle Wild

1.16766 Petatons: Post-Purgatory Assault Mode Meliodas, The One Ultimate Escanor, 100% Demon King, 100% Supreme Deity, Full Power Demon King Zeldris, Demon King Britannia, Hawk Mama, and Chaos

How did he jump from 2 teratons to 64?

 

[Majinere566]

I see


How did he jump from 2 teratons to 64?

Never mind the mael feat was 64 Teratons

But he does note that First form DK Zeldris Tanked 5 Full countered attacks?

 

[speedster352]

Never mind the mael feat was 64 Teratons

But he does note that First form DK Zeldris Tanked 5 Full countered attacks?

Who made this?

 

[ByAsura]

The attacks were consecutive, so it's not like they'd combine, and he blocked the same blows from Meliodas that were hurting him by putting his arm up.

Also, this Demon King has pretty much no scaling, so this would actually downscale his AP compared to his durability if it went through.

Who made this?

Peter did years ago.

 

[speedster352]

The attacks were consecutive, so it's not like they'd combine, and he blocked the same blows from Meliodas that were hurting him by putting his arm up.

Also, this Demon King has pretty much no scaling, so this would actually downscale his AP compared to his durability if it went through.

Peter did years ago.

So what's the plan then? What would the scaling chain be?