Four Knights of the Apocalypse/Nanatsu no Taizai Main Discussion Thread

[helper]

Liones seems like a bit much, but he'd probably have the level he used to knock out Tristan (which gets the same scaling anyway).

fgm, its implied that prey have a greater (hope)magic boost and he is also still struggling against macduff

 

[ByAsura]

ok, then, this is fine.

 

[Demon_Lord18]

Who knows incase what if, but i guess why it's looking weird not because of those reason, instead cause varghese tell this to percival in tale story way, or maybe it's just nakaba bad taste same as those stars.

I don't know if it's mistranslation or not, but i remember read it somewhere it's say "world" Not planet, and it does make sense since percival destiny is destroying camelot realm.

Was your calculation rejected?

 

[Le'garde273]

Was your calculation rejected?

Not really, we just put it off until we get neo camelot clear scan, also there is new timeframe i wanted to add rather than 12 years.
Though the math was got accepted

 

[speedster352]

ok, then, this is fine.

How’s life? Anyway shouldn’t nnt come first then the four knights scaling since their profiles aren’t complete?

 

[speedster352]

I'm going to be semi-inactive until Friday.

After that, I'll also be a lot less busy.

Like I said before, let's wait for this portion of the arc to end before we start doing anything with Behemoth.

Liones seems like a bit much, but he'd probably have the level he used to knock out Tristan (which gets the same scaling anyway).

To clarify, they downscale a lot since 50% DK could wreck Ban and Wild. But they're still High 6-A, otherwise 100% DK would've killed the **** out of them.

Technically, he scales to the 100% deities now, since 50% SD (who can withstand her FC'd attacks) implies he can harm her.

Would it be possible for nnt to be low 5b with the sins nemesis final fc attack?

 

[ByAsura]

Anyway shouldn’t nnt come first then the four knights scaling since their profiles aren’t complete?

The Behemoth scaling isn't getting implemented until the arc is over.

Would it be possible for nnt to be low 5b with the sins nemesis final fc attack?

Again, maybe when the current arc is over.

 

[Demon_Lord18]

can I make a CRT for Chaos Low 2-C?

 

[ByAsura]

If you really want.

 

[speedster352]

can I make a CRT for Chaos Low 2-C?

Don’t please don’t we need more scans for that.

The Behemoth scaling isn't getting implemented until the arc is over.

Again, maybe when the current arc is over.

but hypothetically what would the scaling chain look like?

 

[ByAsura]

Makai already gave it.

Arthur took on ALL this energy and Meli should currently scale

On this note, no he shouldn't because that's not what happened.

Excalibur took on all the energy even before Arthur had actually been resurrected, and channelling said energy isn't really even a feat of power. The energy was used to unlock Lake Salisbury, resurrect and awaken Arthur.

The only reason Chaos (not Arthur physically) scales to the lake combo is because Lady of the Lake was wrought from Chaos.

Given that Zeldris is still weaker than Behemoth and 50% DK, I seriously doubt that Meliodas got 4,000 x stronger in that same period.

 

[speedster352]

Makai already gave it.

On this note, no he shouldn't because that's not what happened.

Excalibur took on all the energy even before Arthur had actually been resurrected, and channelling said energy isn't really even a feat of power. The energy was used to unlock Lake Salisbury, resurrect and awaken Arthur.

The only reason Chaos (not Arthur physically) scales to the lake combo is because Lady of the Lake was wrought from Chaos.

Given that Zeldris is still weaker than Behemoth and 50% DK, I seriously doubt that Meliodas got 4,000 x stronger in that same period.

statement<feats also Arthur merged with chaos so he should be low 5b as a lowball scaling to chaos.

 

[Le'garde273]

Given that Zeldris is still weaker than Behemoth and 50% DK, I seriously doubt that Meliodas got 4,000 x stronger in that same period.

Zeldris admit himself if he not strong as demon king, but it's somehow still scale to 50% demon king, i mean their gap just undefined but not really inferior two times gap, also given how his second mark could harm supreme deity durability along with second mark meliodas.

 

[ByAsura]

statement<feats

Cool, both the statements and feats I provided prove this shit wrong.

also Arthur merged with chaos so he should be low 5b as a lowball scaling to chaos.

I didn't say Arthur shouldn't be Low 5-B with Chaos powers. Makai was talking about his non-Chaos stuff.

Zeldris admit himself if he not strong as demon king, but it's somehow still scale to 50% demon king, i mean their gap just undefined but not really inferior two times gap, also given how his second mark could harm supreme deity durability along with second mark meliodas.

As I said, we're going to scale them. That's not the argument I'm making. The argument I'm making is that the combo move is thousands of times stronger than DK level, and Zeldris isn't even equal to DK.

2nd Mark only did that with a combo attack, but that's besides the point.

 

[speedster352]

Cool, both the statements and feats I provided prove this shit wrong.

I didn't say Arthur shouldn't be Low 5-B with Chaos powers. Makai was talking about his non-Chaos stuff.

As I said, we're going to scale them. That's not the argument I'm making. The argument I'm making is that the combo move is thousands of times stronger than DK level, and Zeldris isn't even equal to DK.

2nd Mark only did that with a combo attack, but that's besides the point.

Would enchanebt Multiplier make characters 5b? That would be very impressive.

 

[ByAsura]

Baseline 5-C is 2,000 times lower than 5-B, and baseline 5-C is ~1,200 times Behemoth's feat. So no.

 

[speedster352]

Baseline 5-C is 2,000 times lower than 5-B, and baseline 5-C is ~1,200 times Behemoth's feat. So no.

23.8619310462 Petatons
100% DK should be 47.72 Petatons

Meliodas Ban King scale to 50% DK
TOU Escanor scale to 100% DK
Other characters like Gowther Merlin and Diane dont really change much the result unless We assume she used the same 2 x CBL amp (We don’t iirc)

Final attack = 119.3 Petatons
Britannia DK stopped it without having magic (pure darkness density)

Meli FC’d it 12 times
1) 238.6
2) 477.2
3) 954,4
4) 1.908 Exatons
5) 3.817
6) 7.634
7) 15.268
8) 30.536
9) 61.072
10) 122.144
11) 244.288
12) 488.576 Exatons (Low 5-B)

Arthur took on ALL this energy and Meli should currently scale

I mean for Chas Arthur and Meliodas. At low 5b wouldn’t multipliers get them to 5b like the enchantment multiplier?

 

[ByAsura]

No. 488 exatons is relatively close to baseline Low 5-B (455 exatons), so it's around 130 times lower than 5-B.

 

[Makai641001]

I'm going to be semi-inactive until Friday.

After that, I'll also be a lot less busy.

Like I said before, let's wait for this portion of the arc to end before we start doing anything with Behemoth.

Okay

Liones seems like a bit much, but he'd probably have the level he used to knock out Tristan (which gets the same scaling anyway).

He still can’t beat Lancelot’s « Macduff » despite being more powerful than his Liones self which Also mean that We should be able to calc the Macduff feat where he blitz and kill Percy

To clarify, they downscale a lot since 50% DK could wreck Ban and Wild. But they're still High 6-A, otherwise 100% DK would've killed the **** out of them.

Isn’t DK Meli ≈ 50% DK and Ban able to harm him wouldn’t that make them scale

Technically, he scales to the 100% deities now, since 50% SD (who can withstand her FC'd attacks) implies he can harm her.

Yeah

 

[speedster352]

23.8619310462 Petatons
100% DK should be 47.72 Petatons

Meliodas Ban King scale to 50% DK
TOU Escanor scale to 100% DK
Other characters like Gowther Merlin and Diane dont really change much the result unless We assume she used the same 2 x CBL amp (We don’t iirc)

Final attack = 119.3 Petatons
Britannia DK stopped it without having magic (pure darkness density)

Meli FC’d it 12 times
1) 238.6
2) 477.2
3) 954,4
4) 1.908 Exatons
5) 3.817
6) 7.634
7) 15.268
8) 30.536
9) 61.072
10) 122.144
11) 244.288
12) 488.576 Exatons (Low 5-B)

Arthur took on ALL this energy and Meli should currently scale

I thought it was FC 13 times?

No. 488 exatons is relatively close to baseline Low 5-B (455 exatons), so it's around 130 times lower than 5-B.

 

[speedster352]

Okay

He still can’t beat Lancelot’s « Macduff » despite being more powerful than his Liones self which Also mean that We should be able to calc the Macduff feat where he blitz and kill Percy

Isn’t DK Meli ≈ 50% DK and Ban able to harm him wouldn’t that make them scale

Yeah

Is there anything useful here? Or here?

 

[speedster352]

https://vsbattles.com/threads/another-small-nnt-thread.155647/

 

[helper]

Perhaps Tristan may have one or two more multipliers that may be being overlooked.
Demon/goddess enchantment Tristan
Double enchantment Tristan

 

[ByAsura]

He still can’t beat Lancelot’s « Macduff » despite being more powerful than his Liones self which Also mean that We should be able to calc the Macduff feat where he blitz and kill Percy

Like I said to Helper, this is fine.

Isn’t DK Meli ≈ 50% DK and Ban able to harm him wouldn’t that make them scale

Never stated, and contradicted by scaling. The Ten Commandments have compatibility issues with hosts.

Demon/goddess enchantment Tristan

Unknown.

Double enchantment Tristan

He's not stacking two multipliers, he just has one multiplier on each sword.

 

[Demon_Lord18]

Not really, we just put it off until we get neo camelot clear scan, also there is new timeframe i wanted to add rather than 12 years.
Though the math was got accepted

I redid your Eternal Realm calculation using a shorter time, is the calculation correct?I redid your Eternal Realm calculation using a shorter time, is the calculation correct?

Dimension created from energy with sun inside

1.1184707e+42 J

Low End: 1 year = 31536000s
1.1184707e+42 J /31536000s =3.5466473237e+34 J

Mid End: 6 months=15552000s

1.1184707e+42 J /15552000s= 7.1918126286e+34J

High End: 1 month=2628002,88s

1.1184707e+42 J/2628002,88s= 4.2559721244e+35

Low End= 3.5466473237e+34J por segundo (5-A)
Mid End =7.1918126286e+34J por segundo (5-A)

High End= 4.2559721244e+35J por segundo (5-A)

 

[speedster352]

Like I said to Helper, this is fine.

Never stated, and contradicted by scaling. The Ten Commandments have compatibility issues with hosts.

Unknown.

He's not stacking two multipliers, he just has one multiplier on each sword.

How’s life? https://vsbattles.com/threads/another-small-nnt-thread.155647/

 

[speedster352]

How’s life? https://vsbattles.com/threads/another-small-nnt-thread.155647/

Anyone?

 

[MeliodasDeUzyy]

I redid your Eternal Realm calculation using a shorter time, is the calculation correct?I redid your Eternal Realm calculation using a shorter time, is the calculation correct?

Dimension created from energy with sun inside

1.1184707e+42 J

Low End: 1 year = 31536000s
1.1184707e+42 J /31536000s =3.5466473237e+34 J

Mid End: 6 months=15552000s

1.1184707e+42 J /15552000s= 7.1918126286e+34J

High End: 1 month=2628002,88s

1.1184707e+42 J/2628002,88s= 4.2559721244e+35

Low End= 3.5466473237e+34J por segundo (5-A)
Mid End =7.1918126286e+34J por segundo (5-A)

High End= 4.2559721244e+35J por segundo (5-A)

Why did you think it had to be a one year?

 

[Le'garde273]

I redid your Eternal Realm calculation using a shorter time, is the calculation correct?I redid your Eternal Realm calculation using a shorter time, is the calculation correct?

Dimension created from energy with sun inside

1.1184707e+42 J

Low End: 1 year = 31536000s
1.1184707e+42 J /31536000s =3.5466473237e+34 J

Mid End: 6 months=15552000s

1.1184707e+42 J /15552000s= 7.1918126286e+34J

High End: 1 month=2628002,88s

1.1184707e+42 J/2628002,88s= 4.2559721244e+35

Low End= 3.5466473237e+34J por segundo (5-A)
Mid End =7.1918126286e+34J por segundo (5-A)

High End= 4.2559721244e+35J por segundo (5-A)

Like makai ever said, we actually have much lower timeframe than all you write here

 

[MeliodasDeUzyy]

Like makai ever said, we actually have much lower timeframe than all you write here

Like?

 

[Le'garde273]

Like?

New babyborn percival was taken away from camelot 16 years ago by varghese

Diodra who was percival brother (seems have different mother) also born inside camelot realm

Meaning using 1 year or month or even days timeframe are really won't work due their age and when arthur start created the realm 16 years ago significantly short.

 

[MeliodasDeUzyy]

New babyborn percival was taken away from camelot 16 years ago by varghese

Diodra who was percival brother (seems have different mother) also born inside camelot realm

Meaning using 1 year or month or even days timeframe are really won't work due their age and when arthur start created the realm 16 years ago significantly short.

Thanks for answering

 

[Demon_Lord18]

Like makai ever said, we actually have much lower timeframe than all you write here

Hm

 

[speedster352]

How’s life? https://vsbattles.com/threads/another-small-nnt-thread.155647/

Calling all nnt supporters

 

[Majinere566]

Not picking up the call

 

[Demon_Lord18]

Not picking up the call

it broke me

 

[Demon_Lord18]

I redid Meliodas' calculation by destroying the ladder and I got 2 petatons

 

[ByAsura]

Was it through calc stacking?

 

[Majinere566]

Most likely there's no way that destroying the stairs are that high

 

[Demon_Lord18]

Was it through calc stacking?

Yes, I used the durability of High 6-B, 412 Petatons to be exact.