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Did you not just see what the conclusion was?Did you make the blog for Escanor?
That's fine then also we shouldn't really be concerned about the whole weaker that 50 percent DK thing since we have way better ap and durability feats for Meliodas(surviving PDK attacks)I’m saying Escanor, unlike the other Sins, scales above his own Sacred Treasure and can also fight PDK evenly (or almost evenly beforehand Noon, and exceed him by burning his life force) without it.
Only sea water?Did you not just see what the conclusion was?
Literally all that does is downscale the 100% deities.That's fine then also we shouldn't really be concerned about the whole weaker that 50 percent DK thing since we have way better ap and durability feats for Meliodas(surviving PDK attacks)
Not at all it's just supporting feats for Meliodas and outliers existLiterally all that does is downscale the 100% deities.
Okay, so how strong is AM and true magic Meliodas then? Also Meliodas needed assualt mode to damage PDKThe 100% deities in the scaling system are 2x 2nd Mark Mel.
The only Sin to consistently draw blood from Prime Demon King Zeldris is Near Noon Escanor, The One Escarnor, and Ultimate The One Escarnor
2nd Demon Mark Meliodas was doing no damage to PDK Zeldris, though he can keep up in speed, all he was doing was staggering him same thing with Ban, and King.
The scan that speedster kept showing, was after PDK Zeldris got bodied by Ultimate The One Escanor. After getting hit, we see that the PDK Zeldris was not damaged by Ban and King's combo attack, and was preparing a summon.
The only attacks that badly harmed PDK Zeldris either came from Escanor, AM Meliodas or a combo attack from all the Sins, all other attacks just staggered or rag dolled him with no harm.
Yes...Only sea water?
PDK has regen remember. The sins survive, react to and block attacks from the PDK. Meliodas literally soloed the PDK till the sins arrived to help. hereReread the chapters 320 to 329
Cool anything else? here here hereI’d argue even AM Mel doesn’t badly damage him. There’s one scan where it’s implied AM gave him a few scratches and sent him flying, but all the Sins were right behind him and he had Lostvayne.
You're telling me you don't see the blood loss from the PDK? Also PDK has regen it's part of his demon biology. All I was trying to prove is that the sins scale to the PDK only Escanor is above PDK which we already agreed on.First scan shows him doing no damage with a direct hit. It’s only the anime version where he does, but the anime often diverges from the manga.
Second is counter vanish, which doesn’t scale to physicals. Why do you think Mel is able to do this in base?
Third was explained above by Hurricane.
Like I said, nothing new here.
As I said, they scale in speed, but they don't do any damage, except for Escanor, all seven sins combo attacks, or AM Meliodas.PDK has regen remember. The sins survive, react to and block attacks from the PDK.
Keeps up in speed, but does no damage.Meliodas literally soloed the PDK till the sins arrived to help. here
As ByAsura said.
Alright, fine what are we even arguing about anyway?As I said, they scale in speed, but they don't do any damage, except for Escanor, all seven sins combo attacks, or AM Meliodas.
And you don't need to fully scale to survive attacks as ByAsura explained.
Keeps up in speed, but does no damage.
As ByAsura said.
Zoom in the PDK was cut and bleeding hereDo you mean those 3 tiny ass particles in the air? Even if they were blood (which I strongly doubt), it’s so small that it barely constitutes harm.
That's wasn't from Meliodas nor Ban and King's combo attack, he was already bleeding because of Escarnor.You're telling me you don't see the blood loss from the PDK?
Doesn't Escanor have Regen Negation? Wouldn't that mean any injury he has from Escanor won't heal, therefore any cuts and bleeding he was would still be there.Also PDK has regen it's part of his demon biology.
Again, Hurricane explained that. You haven’t even addressed that specific argument yet.Zoom in the PDK was cut and bleeding here
Zoom in the PDK was cut and bleeding here
Don’t you see kings increase spears? here PDK resist regen negation and he also has the ruler so that is not a problem.That's wasn't from Meliodas nor Ban and King's combo attack, he was already bleeding because of Escarnor.
Doesn't Escanor have Regen Negation? Wouldn't that mean any injury he has from Escanor won't heal, therefore any cuts and bleeding he was would still be there.
And? What part of "Ban & King's Combo Attack does no damage to DK" confuses you?Don’t you see kings increase spears? here
Any mention of him activating it in their fight nor him resisting Ultimate The One Escarnor's Regen Negation?PDK resist regen negation and he also has the ruler so that is not a problem
Yes the ruler was activated from the beginning and was always on they knocked the PDk down and had a conversation then he someone a creature he still had blood hereAnd? What part of "Ban & King's Combo Attack does no damage to DK" confuses you?
Any mention of him activating it in their fight nor him resisting Ultimate The One Escarnor's Regen Negation?
And as explained by ByAsura Demon Regen is easy to spot.
Monspeet regened from sariel grace which negated Derieri regenAgain, Hurricane explained that. You haven’t even addressed that specific argument yet.
That’s because almost all of his body was off screen. The trails of darkness are even visible after Cusack regenerated from Arthur’s attack.
The DK turned it off, and after turning it off he never turned it back on since the Sins already know how to counter it.Yes the ruler was activated from the beginning
And that's all they did, knock him down.they knocked the PDk down and had a conversation then he someone a creature he
That's still from his fight with Ultimate The One Escanor, and as ByAsura said Demon regen is very visible.still had blood here
And what is the problem ? I didn’t really follow the convYes...
IIRC the translation was vaporizing sea water and not the ocean I think.And what is the problem ? I didn’t really follow the conv
And i explained how seawater means ocean water or sea water in japanese i don’t think it’s a problem (also vaporising the sea could be great)IIRC the translation was vaporizing sea water and not the ocean I think.
Yes but they were distracted by Escanor sacrificing his life and were surprised when the PDK came back up and summoned a creature. We don’t know if he kept the ruler off there is no way to tell and also Gowther has resistance negation.The DK turned it off, and after turning it off he never turned it back on since the Sins already know how to counter it.
He turned it off when Elizabeth tried to heal him, then got hit by an attack from Merlin. It's the reason why Meliodas and Gowther were able to enter the DK and Zeldris' mind.
And that's all they did, knock him down.
That's still from his fight with Ultimate The One Escanor, and as ByAsura said Demon regen is very visible.
Thinking you beat or otherwise harmed someone and then being surprised to see that they're fine from a combo attack and preparing an attack, still doesn't mean that said combo attack did anything other than knock down said person, after they were already beaten down by somebody.Yes but they were distracted by Escanor sacrificing his life and were surprised when the PDK came back up and summoned a creature.
He could have healed off the damage in that time. I mean you admitted that ban and king combo attacks caused the PDK to bleed with the scans I showed.Thinking you beat or otherwise harmed someone and then being surprised to see that they're fine from a combo attack and preparing an attack, still doesn't mean that said combo attack did anything other than knock down said person, after they were already beaten down by somebody.
Yes but the sins were distracted so he could have just healed himself in that time also 2nd demon mark Meliodas no sold the PDK attacksDo you mean those 3 tiny ass particles in the air? Even if they were blood (which I strongly doubt), it’s so small that it barely constitutes harm.
I know he has regen. He needs to be harmed in the first place, though, and it’s highly visible when Demons heal.
You said he needed AM to damage DK.
Are you having memory problems? Because I never said that at all.I mean you admitted that ban and king combo attacks caused the PDK to bleed with the scans I showed.
No Sold means not being damaged at all, he was bruised and bleeding.2nd demon mark Meliodas no sold the PDK attacks
It means that he isn't going to evaporate the entire seaAnd what is the problem ? I didn’t really follow the conv
here here hereAre you having memory problems? Because I never said that at all.
Is this you trying to twist people's words again like with ByAsura?
My bad however that is still impressiveNo Sold means not being damaged at all, he was bruised and bleeding.
Tanking is enduring attacks, but still damaged.
Mhhh why ?It means that he isn't going to evaporate the entire sea
Again, ByAsura and I already discussed this.
Again, ByAsura and U already discussed this.
Because if the text says that he's only evaporating the sea water one can insert that they're most likely referring to the sea water in their vicinityMhhh why ?