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Damn whos that?VonKey moment
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Damn whos that?VonKey moment
The most based One Piece scaler on YouTubeDamn whos that?
Maybe Naruto the last flashbacks with Hinata can helpYo, chat. Since Naruto confirms that he never left the village until the LoW, that means that ANY flashback of Naruto being elsewhere would serve as proof that a location is part of Konoha.
Find a scan of Naruto hiking in the mountains ong
Real talk tho we do have a f-ton of flashback of him training in forests. So each of those would be part of Konoha. IIRC in the anime we see him going to a mountain to train.
I hope it’s bigger than 120 meters…Forgot 120 meters. Konoha may legit be MUCH bigger.
NGL that's what I was thinking but Hinamid is so lame I can't recall anything in specific that'd help. Nami negs. There is the forest in The Last when Naruto made Mini Clones but that's as fad as I recall.Maybe Naruto the last flashbacks with Hinata can help
Comparing someone to VonKey in any context is low-key bullying ngl/jVonKey moment
We are sure it’s the FoD. That as much as been agreed upon rather unanimously within the thread, which you can go through and read if you’d like. Databooks confirmed such to be the case.That we aren't sure that it is the FoD doesn't help either.
A lot of the proof such as population speculation is very much in question.Regardless there is too much proof behind Konoha's size now.
Oh, I'm not talking about Arc's arguments in the original post. I think the stuff that was discovered on pages 4-6 and the new arguments for Konoha's size have far higher value.A lot of the proof such as population speculation is very much in question.
I'll agree some of the new panels tomorrow.
its not that deep..Arc asking him to view his response instead of UchihaSlayer's is wild. Bro is setting up his own thread.
This is getting a bit tiring, if you are going to through around the same arguments you already shown in the form of "expressing my frustration while simultaneously rephrasing my argument" please don't.I've got a little bit more to post if that's alright Arc7; was currently in the middle of writing my response to Mitch.
I still think the best way is to take the entire shot of the entire village and forest of death.
I mean, what are you expecting Kishi to do here? Draw them as dots? He's just working within the limitations of the medium, as the important part of those panels is to showcase Pain, Naruto, and the Toads interacting rather than drawing them to scale in comparison to Konoha as a whole. The characters being showcased clearly is more of a priority than drawing them to perfect scale in comparison to the landmarks that surround them.Just to give a hypothetical example, we get a pretty wide shot of the destroyed ruins of Konoha when Pain uses his Almighty Push on it. We can see Naruto and his giant toad summons appearing roughly in the middle of this crater, a bit closer to one side than the other.
Now, if we use the monument-to-wall distance in the calc that means if those characters are in the middle then the distance from them to the walls or to the Hokage monument would be roughly 31 kilometers.
Here is a shot of the toads and Pain facing off with the wall behind the toads. Here is a shot of Pains in the same position with the Hokage monument behind them
But isn't there an equally plausible alternative that these more consistent panels showing a lesser distance are the author's intended vision and his earlier panel that showed the Forest of Death could be a mistake?
I think given that he still drew the village to be fairly larger than the circular forest on its outskirts over 300 chapters later indicates to me that this was still his intended portrayal of the village's overall scale.Also, to be fair, it's not like this depiction is solely limited to that one scan. Here (Chapter 438) we also see that the village in its totality is still meant to be significantly larger than that circular forest next to its outskirts. And the fact that this has remained consistent for hundreds of chapters indicates that this is ultimately what Kishimoto intended to portray.
Is that another shot of the Florest of death?I think given that he still drew the village to be fairly larger than the circular forest on its outskirts over 300 chapters later indicates to me that this was still his intended portrayal of the village's overall scale.
Yes? If that's the correct size they're supposed to be. Characters can be drawn at a small scale depending on the situation.I mean, what are you expecting Kishi to do here? Draw them as dots? He's just working within the limitations of the medium, as the important part of those panels is to showcase Pain, Naruto, and the Toads interacting rather than drawing them to scale in comparison to Konoha as a whole. The characters being showcased clearly is more of a priority than drawing them to perfect scale in comparison to the landmarks that surround them.
Yeah, but that's just it, he has an artistic license to do whatever he wants in any given situation.Yes? If that's the correct size they're supposed to be. Characters can be drawn at a small scale depending on the situation.
Or if Kishimoto wanted to just focus on the characters, he didn't have to include the background details of the village in those panels.
There's Arc's opening post. My response post here. Arc's response to my response. DT also made a short-ish summary here for why he disagrees.Is there a tldr that can be read? I've ran through this thread but 200 messages isn't something that can be easily remembered
3 weeks is not an astronomical amount of time for a CRT. There's only 5 votes for a solid upgrade (1 possibly) against 3 disagree votes. That's a majority, sure, but it's not an overwhelming majority of say 5 votes in favor against just 1 person dissenting.Respectfully, we've stalled this thread way further than was absolutely needed. Out of respect or kindness for Damage, Arc has kept this thread open and waited for over a week Damage to finally give his rebuttal (by this time we already had enough votes), and we even got a revote from staff after, and we finally got the final revote from Mitch just a few hours ago. This thread has been open for 3 weeks and we got the required amount of votes for this thread for 3 weeks. This thread has been open far longer than it's needed thanks to Arc's good graces, but this thread has been already accepted and should be closed. It's nobody's fault that we have latecomers to this thread, it's most certainly isn't Arc's. And he isn't required to hold this thread open longer either.
3 weeks is an astronomical amount of time when there were already enough votes to close this3 weeks is not an astronomical amount of time for a CRT. There's only 5 votes for a solid upgrade (1 possibly) against 3 disagree votes. That's a majority, sure, but it's not an overwhelming majority of say 5 votes in favor against just 1 person dissenting.
Also, this started on the 19th, right? That would make this more like 2 weeks and 1 day.
Then even more so it begs the question why it's even still open. 6 votes vs 3 votes is far more than enough to close it as soon as the discussion has ended. The discussion ended as soon as Arc asked for a revote. You and Arc got your revote, so this should be closed.3 weeks is not an astronomical amount of time for a CRT. There's only 5 votes for a solid upgrade (1 possibly) against 3 disagree votes. That's a majority, sure, but it's not an overwhelming majority of say 5 votes in favor against just 1 person dissenting.
As far as I'm aware there's no rule mandating exactly how quickly a CRT has to be applied once it's hit the required amount of votes. There's a standard grace period of 48 hours after a thread is made where it can't be applied in order to give people time to at least see the thread, but nothing about how long/short a thread can still be discussed for after votes have been given.Then even more so it begs the question why it's even still open. 6 votes vs 3 votes is far more than enough to close it as soon as the discussion has ended. The discussion ended as soon as Arc asked for a revote. You and Arc got your revote, so this should be closed.